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Should players wages and transfer fees be capped?

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I was just watching SSN about Kaka and his imminent 100m + transfer fee and the expected 500k per week wages.  What i want to know is? Is this a stupid move on Man Citys part by doing this deal or is it reckless over spending just to show financial dominance in football and buy anything and anyone they like. We have seen this with Chelsea and Abramavic, He chucked his millions around and went after the best players he could.  Shevchenko turned out to be a major flop in the Premiership and Drogba is seriously over rated. So in this case (correct me if im wronng)  i believe it is 130million offered to AC Milan.  In my opinion this is absolutely obsurd.  No one person is worth that much money.  Especially when there are problems in our country with homelessness, medical issues and rising unemployment. elsewhere there are children going hungry in the world and countries still recovering from natural disasters.  Clearly the world of Football does not need to spend this much money in one hit.  100m+ could save lower league clubs from administration.  as for 500k per week agaian this is money that is wasted. Kaka, as good a footballer as he may be may also be a major flop in the premier league. He is definately not gonna make this transfer for the sake of his football. He is proving himself to be a money grabbing idiot just like Robinho did. So what does everyone think about this ridiculous transfer fees and what would you think is a sensible cap on wages and fees???? lets try and be honest on this one as it is a debate that the  world is talking about.

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[quote user="barclay_canary"]I was just watching SSN about Kaka and his imminent 100m + transfer fee and the expected 500k per week wages.  What i want to know is? Is this a stupid move on Man Citys part by doing this deal or is it reckless over spending just to show financial dominance in football and buy anything and anyone they like. We have seen this with Chelsea and Abramavic, He chucked his millions around and went after the best players he could.  Shevchenko turned out to be a major flop in the Premiership and Drogba is seriously over rated. So in this case (correct me if im wronng)  i believe it is 130million offered to AC Milan.  In my opinion this is absolutely obsurd.  No one person is worth that much money.  Especially when there are problems in our country with homelessness, medical issues and rising unemployment. elsewhere there are children going hungry in the world and countries still recovering from natural disasters.  Clearly the world of Football does not need to spend this much money in one hit.  100m+ could save lower league clubs from administration.  as for 500k per week agaian this is money that is wasted. Kaka, as good a footballer as he may be may also be a major flop in the premier league. He is definately not gonna make this transfer for the sake of his football. He is proving himself to be a money grabbing idiot just like Robinho did. So what does everyone think about this ridiculous transfer fees and what would you think is a sensible cap on wages and fees???? lets try and be honest on this one as it is a debate that the  world is talking about.
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I agree with what you say, but your criticism of Kaka himself is unjust. He made it very clear that he wanted to stay at Milan,and only spoke to City when Milan authorised it .If they had rejected the offer he would have stayed there (and still might). Its the club that''s had its head turned by the money, not the player. Robinho, on the other hand is, I agree, a mercenary. He couldn''t even remember which club he''d signed for in his first interview!

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im not critising Kaka.  he is without doubt a brilliant talent. But think about it.  the club is hooked by 100m then the player is reeled in by the 500k per week.  He may well have said he didnt want to leave but this is usual what they all say to make themselves look loyal to their current clubs and fans.

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yes it should.. the premier league would fight tooth and nail to veto it to "protect their interests" (which is a load of pony) but i think if it came in, and was run how it is in the NFL, then we could in 10 years see the most competitive leagues in the world where truly ANYONE has a chance.. there wouldnt be a big 4.. there would be a big 20.... how exciting for fans would that be?

jas :)

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If & when the Kaka transfer goes through the gap between the Prem and the Championship will be wider than it is now.

All the Mancs are doing is make everybody hold out for a big transfer fee and all the crazy transfers will be at the end of the last day of the window.

If Sheik whoshisname and Roman were ever to get bored with thier trinkets then the clubs would be bust within hours and serve them right. The top 4 Prem teams all carry a huge debt so that Johnny Foriegner can have a plaything in our leagues. I do not see this happening in other European countries and ticket prices to matches reflect this.

This is ruining the Prem, the title race is boring.

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Yes i definatly agree, plus it may help our national team get better as more players will get a chance as less foreigners will be coming in! However i don''t believe it will happen because people will argue that its all this money being spent that makes the Premier League the best league in the world (when we all know its the Championship). A good thought, but i lost cause i think.

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In my opinion clubs should have to exist purely on gate receipts when it comes to player wages and transfer kitties.

That way the clubs who have the best crowds would be able to afford higher wages and transfer fees, their fans could then say they were instrumental in the clubs success. (not biased here of course, ha ha !)

All the other income like TV fees etc could be put toward ground improvements and youth accademys etc.

 

 

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Cant see a cap on wages and transfer fee''s ever being brought in for the premier league. Not while the big four call the shots in this country and not sure where EU and UK law stand on it aswell. Nice thought though and would go some way to making the game more enjoyable again and more competitive league (the very reason the big four would fight against it).

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No, it goes against the very basics of what modern democracy is founded on, the free market. If Kaka can command 500k a week then good luck to him, it''s called supply and demand.

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hey walking man the free market done a fantastic job needing my tax money to bail out the banking crooks while the squid bit goes belly up against the euro

simple solution NO WIN NO PAY, THAT''LL MAKE THE SPOILT BUGGERS HUNGRY

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 Beause the situation with this freemarket league is going haywire, it would be in the FA''s own self interest to try to restore some sanity to the financial side of the game.  Smaller clubs should have a legitimate chance when they are in the Prem.  Granted, there are some bigger clubs that screw up regularly and never seem to win anything (Newcastle) despite an enormous budget.  To level the playing field and make it much more interesting, there should be a salary cap AND a salary base.  Teams must spend at least a certain amount on player wages, but not more than some other predetermined amount, and the amount will change season to season.

Let teams pay whatever they want for transfers, though.  If Chelsea want the most expensive players or Arsenal want the French National team as their line up, they can have them, but they can''t go over the salary cap in paying them, so not all of them will want to sign for Chelsea or Arsenal knowing their salary will be limited. There will still be superstar wages, just not for an entire line up.  

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Realistically. The wage cap should be about 50K a week and the transfer fee should be 20 million max. That would bring football back to reality a slight bit. It''s far too over the top at the minute.

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I agree something needs to be done as bidding over £100m for one player then paying him over 500k is crazy. Fair play to Kaka if he doesn''t move there. I''m sure there is already some sort of salary cap used in league two, but not sure how it is operated, does anyone know?? And if this is successful could it be rolled out across football

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of course there shouldn''t be a cap, anyone who says there should be is a disgusting socialist and should be ashamed of themselves. its just another part of the global left wing conspiracy. lets just sit back and let the free market sort it out like God intended.

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[quote user="barclay_canary"]im not critising Kaka.  he is without doubt a brilliant talent. But think about it.  the club is hooked by 100m then the player is reeled in by the 500k per week.  He may well have said he didnt want to leave but this is usual what they all say to make themselves look loyal to their current clubs and fans.
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In the light of today''s news you may wish to rethink that statement!

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[quote user="Sheffield uni Canary"]I agree something needs to be done as bidding over £100m for one player then paying him over 500k is crazy. Fair play to Kaka if he doesn''t move there. I''m sure there is already some sort of salary cap used in league two, but not sure how it is operated, does anyone know?? And if this is successful could it be rolled out across football[/quote]

League Two teams are not capped on how much they can pay an individual player but the total expenditure on wages must not exceed 60 per cent of the club turnover. If they go over that the Football League can stop a transfer taking place or place a transfer embargo on the club  and have done so several times in the last few seasons.

The highest paid players in League Two average around £50k a year but of course many others are on far less than that.  A few are on more with Andy Bishop reputed to be the highest paid player in the division.  What you can spend obviously depends on your turnover.

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[quote user="Camuldonum"]

[quote user="Sheffield uni Canary"]I agree something needs to be done as bidding over £100m for one player then paying him over 500k is crazy. Fair play to Kaka if he doesn''t move there. I''m sure there is already some sort of salary cap used in league two, but not sure how it is operated, does anyone know?? And if this is successful could it be rolled out across football[/quote]

League Two teams are not capped on how much they can pay an individual player but the total expenditure on wages must not exceed 60 per cent of the club turnover. If they go over that the Football League can stop a transfer taking place or place a transfer embargo on the club  and have done so several times in the last few seasons.

The highest paid players in League Two average around £50k a year but of course many others are on far less than that.  A few are on more with Andy Bishop reputed to be the highest paid player in the division.  What you can spend obviously depends on your turnover.

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almost identical to how its done in the NFL.. and it works.. a player can be paid what he likes.... so if he wanted say £100,000 a week he is perfectly entitled to it, so long as it doesnt take you over the cap, with huge fines and transfer embargos for teams who do not stick to the rules.... this would put premiership teams off, a fine of 30 grand is laughable.. but 1 year without being able to sign a player would make them sit up and take notice....

Glad to see it works in league 2, perhaps thats whats given Rochdale a chance.... they were perennial strugglers for years but have finished in the playoff picture last season and look set to again.. which re-iterates what i said earlier about a more competitive playing field...

Just look at the NFL and the Arizona cardinals this season... traditionally whipping boys but now at the biggest sports event in the world, the superbowl and with a half decent chance too....

jas :)

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