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[quote user="Grif"]

Ah Mick Dennis. A more biased, one-sided sycophant you will struggle to find. I have to agree with him though, Glenn Roeder was so accomodating to other member''s of staff and in particular their families. He always considered how his decisions would impact on other people and their loved-ones. The most striking example of this must surely have been when he culled almost his entire backroom team overnight. He sacked our long-serving kit man Terry Postle, Mrs Postle must have been delighted with that. He sacked our chief scout Alan Wood, I bet Mrs Wood was over the moon upon receiving the news. He sacked Peter Shaw, his family must have been ecstatic at that. Finally he got rid of Rod Dyer, I''m sure Mrs Dyer was delighted. In yet another act of integrity, Mr Roeder publicly belittled and then sacked Neil Adams for the heinous crime of daring to voice an opinion that differed from his own. Did Roeder consider the impact on Neil''s family? Roeder deliberately denied Darren Huckerby (a living legend for Norwich supporters) the chance to say a proper goodbye. Did he consider how this would make Huckerby and the fans feel? Oh wait a minute, Glenn Roeder has an entire back catalogue of hurtful actions- its called karma Mick, you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

It''s very difficult to have any sympathy for Roeder. The man was arrogant to the core and has probably permanently damaged our great club with his grudges and favourtism. It''s wholeheartedly wrong to state that fans were putting anyone in that director''s box in danger. It was a protest, aimed only at trying to let the board know how some fans were thinking. It''s not against the law to have an opinion that differs from your great friends Delia and Michael. They did the right thing for the long-term future of the club. For once.

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and say so all of us [:)]

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[quote user="kick it off"][quote user="The Chirp"]my goodness you lot are typical... what''s your problem? free seat in the directors box... so what! (one of the comments on the article... by the way a lot of people get free seats for games if they are in the press... or next to nothing anyway...) it shows a different side.. an insight into what a managers family has to go through... not once did he say the fans were out of order - to munby they clearly are... - there are ways of doing things... abusing someone and swearing at someone isn''t one of them... any of you who think thats okay need to get real. - the types he screw their faces up in rage and scream at someone are quite frankly losers. mick dennis'' article is a good read... just because the article comes from someone who is close to delia and co and might look at things from a different view doesn''t make it a bad article... or... make dennis a bad person.  not once did he say roeder shouldn''t have gone... sorry to have a different view... it''s clear a lot of city fans don''t like that! [/quote]Is this a ploy to get us to read your article/blog/whatever it is? If so, acting like a condescending prat is hardly going to do you any favours.[/quote]kick it off... you''ve got me... lol

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Worthless drivel, wrote from his ''free'' seat at Carrow Road, this mans a moron.

Its not nice for the family member of anyone sacked! And the bringing dead and ill healthed is a disgrace.

 

Should be ashamed

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[quote user="gazzathegreat"]An excellent response Grif, wonderfully summed up. As for Mick Dennis, writing for a national paper as poor as the Express is punishment enough.[/quote]

 

Theres worse national papers than the Express Gazza, try the Sun or Daily Star [:D]

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[quote user="gazzathegreat"]An excellent response Grif, wonderfully summed up. As for Mick Dennis, writing for a national paper as poor as the Express is punishment enough.[/quote]

 

Theres worse national papers than the Express Gazza, try the Sun or Daily Star [:D]

[/quote]But at least you get comedy stories and nice pictures in the Sun! [:P][;)][Y]

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i really don''t think it''s as bad as all you lot say. i''ve read it three times to make sure i didn''t miss something... yes lots of people have gone through a lot... and things happen everyday that''s tragic... me for example... in the last two years i got cancer at 24 years of age, beaten it and then recently was made redundant (the joys of working in the financial world) My family have gone through hell... the only reason i mention this is that i don''t look at this article and think... ''big wow... his family are upset... what about me and my family?'' - i look a this article and think.. hmmm interesting to get an insight to what was happening after the charlton game... it was just ''interesting''. The bit about moving the car? i would too!! it only takes one complete prat in a protest to cross the line and ruin it for everyone... i would air on the side of caution too... This is just my opinion... i think it is vallied and backed up... not trying to talk down to anyone nor am i trying to make you read my blog the chirp (but... please do if you''re bored!!! tongue in cheek here i assure you!) i just think it is an interesting article!

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Ah Mick Dennis. A more biased, one-sided sycophant you will struggle to find. I have to agree with him though, Glenn Roeder was so accomodating to other member''s of staff and in particular their families. He always considered how his decisions would impact on other people and their loved-ones. The most striking example of this must surely have been when he culled almost his entire backroom team overnight. He sacked our long-serving kit man Terry Postle, Mrs Postle must have been delighted with that. He sacked our chief scout Alan Wood, I bet Mrs Wood was over the moon upon receiving the news. He sacked Peter Shaw, his family must have been ecstatic at that. Finally he got rid of Rod Dyer, I''m sure Mrs Dyer was delighted. In yet another act of integrity, Mr Roeder publicly belittled and then sacked Neil Adams for the heinous crime of daring to voice an opinion that differed from his own. Did Roeder consider the impact on Neil''s family? Roeder deliberately denied Darren Huckerby (a living legend for Norwich supporters) the chance to say a proper goodbye. Did he consider how this would make Huckerby and the fans feel? Oh wait a minute, Glenn Roeder has an entire back catalogue of hurtful actions- its called karma Mick, you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

It''s very difficult to have any sympathy for Roeder. The man was arrogant to the core and has probably permanently damaged our great club with his grudges and favourtism. It''s wholeheartedly wrong to state that fans were putting anyone in that director''s box in danger. It was a protest, aimed only at trying to let the board know how some fans were thinking. It''s not against the law to have an opinion that differs from your great friends Delia and Michael. They did the right thing for the long-term future of the club. For once.

[/quote]Spot on... well said.

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Thanks Mick.  Because of that article, people will read it and put ALL Norwich supporters in a bad light.

 

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Yeh bloody hell mick what would he know. Compared to all the proffesional sports journalists on here. Oh wait........

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[quote user="The Prisoner"]To be fair to Mick that''s a very good article.
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Yes, I''m sure his chums the Wynn Jones will concur that it''s a very good article....

 

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All round a good piece. If it cannot be recognised that some of this behaviour goes beyond the bounds of common decency then some of the clubs support have sunk to a low level.

That is not to defend Roeder, I am glad he has gone. Shame it didn''t happen before Christmas.

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Yes, apparently there was dozens of ruthless evil acne addled teenagers, walloped, arrested and tasered during the ensuing unruly ''Roeder Out! protest and battle!  The Club CE ordered that his most vicious Norfolk Eventguard Militia attack dogs be unleashed on those aggressive, foulmouthed, vile and rabid scum of untrue support - who were barely old enough to go to the match without an adult as escort.

I personally witnessed in abject and abhorrent horror - as bullet-proof full length SWAT issue squad shields, were held upright and at the ready - across the broad chests - of the 30 or so muscular and intimidating, black body armoured clad and protective helmet wearing loyal ''DeliaWynnRoboCops'' - who meticulously marched in line abreast, all focused, professional - and totally unwavering.

I stared in total disbelief at the DWR who were using their sheer brute strength and power, to force those ''orrid adolescent and spotty oiks (who apparently, were also heavily armed with razor sharp match-day programmes - and were seen to be using their Evening News goody bags as rice flails as futile defence - against the approaching DeliaWynnRoboCops!) 

Taking control and gaining the initiative, the superior well trained and organised DeliaWynnRobocops - drove those disorganised and leaderless ''Roeder Outer Rabble'' away from Carra - and toward the Wensum! The ruthless DeliaWynnRobocops batons'' - were being swung at the mob of baying and screaming evildoers (that masquerade as fans) - like a free for all seal cull on a drifting ice-floe. It was a most bloody and horrendous spectacle - and my vision of those young and adolescent bloodied limbs and carcasses - that were strewn outside the City Stand entrance.....their limp, yellow and green scarfs spattered in congealed crimson......Will be images imprinted in my memory and which I will never, ever, forget - as long as reside on this planet Earth....

But, then again, I could be typing over-hyped and dramatic drivel and bull$hit...and I don''t have a column in a tabloid - where I get paid for doing it...[:|]   

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[quote user="gazzathegreat"]An excellent response Grif, wonderfully summed up. As for Mick Dennis, writing for a national paper as poor as the Express is punishment enough.[/quote]

 

Theres worse national papers than the Express Gazza, try the Sun or Daily Star [:D]

[/quote]The Sun and the Star tend to ignore much of the news. The Express often just makes it up! Of course, however, no paper is as bad as the Daily Mail, which has unmatchable standards of nonsense in it.

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What I''d genuinely like to know, either from Mick Dennis or from people who were outside the ground, is how personal the chants got?  Was there really offensive stuff?  If so, I''d be more inclined to agree with the article, even if it tends to get very hysterical in parts.

If it was simply chanting like "Roeder out" (which is what Mick refers to) on a night when lots of regulars stayed away and possibly quite a few casual fans turned up because of the cheaper prices, then the implication that GR was sacked purely cause of one demonstration is a bit strange.  It may well be true, or it may be a smokescreen for the board''s failings.  Who knows?

I''m really sorry to hear about the bad news that GR''s family have had with illness recently, but as nobody outside the ground (I assume) would have been aware of it, I find it tad unfair if Mick Dennis is using that as a stick to beat them with.  If they did come out with genuinely horrible bile then shame on them.

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JJ, i think you can rest assured that if "horrible bile" had been forthcoming our open-minded journalist friend would have played it for all it was worth.

City fans never stooped close to the levels West Ham managed (i believe our fair and reasonable Mick is from that part of the world.....) and for that we can hold our heads up high [Y].

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[quote user="Grif"]

Ah Mick Dennis. A more biased, one-sided sycophant you will struggle to find. I have to agree with him though, Glenn Roeder was so accomodating to other member''s of staff and in particular their families. He always considered how his decisions would impact on other people and their loved-ones. The most striking example of this must surely have been when he culled almost his entire backroom team overnight. He sacked our long-serving kit man Terry Postle, Mrs Postle must have been delighted with that. He sacked our chief scout Alan Wood, I bet Mrs Wood was over the moon upon receiving the news. He sacked Peter Shaw, his family must have been ecstatic at that. Finally he got rid of Rod Dyer, I''m sure Mrs Dyer was delighted. In yet another act of integrity, Mr Roeder publicly belittled and then sacked Neil Adams for the heinous crime of daring to voice an opinion that differed from his own. Did Roeder consider the impact on Neil''s family? Roeder deliberately denied Darren Huckerby (a living legend for Norwich supporters) the chance to say a proper goodbye. Did he consider how this would make Huckerby and the fans feel? Oh wait a minute, Glenn Roeder has an entire back catalogue of hurtful actions- its called karma Mick, you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

It''s very difficult to have any sympathy for Roeder. The man was arrogant to the core and has probably permanently damaged our great club with his grudges and favourtism. It''s wholeheartedly wrong to state that fans were putting anyone in that director''s box in danger. It was a protest, aimed only at trying to let the board know how some fans were thinking. It''s not against the law to have an opinion that differs from your great friends Delia and Michael. They did the right thing for the long-term future of the club. For once.

[/quote]Absolutely spot on Grif. SSomeone at the Pink Un/EDP/Evening News should publish that so Mick can read it.

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[quote user="gazzathegreat"]An excellent response Grif, wonderfully summed up. As for Mick Dennis, writing for a national paper as poor as the Express is punishment enough.[/quote]

 

Theres worse national papers than the Express Gazza, try the Sun or Daily Star [:D]

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The Sun and the Star tend to ignore much of the news. The Express often just makes it up!

Of course, however, no paper is as bad as the Daily Mail, which has unmatchable standards of nonsense in it.

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The Express is pretty bad.  What makes it worse is that it thinks it is a serious newspaper.  It isn''t, it is owned by a not nice character (read Private Eye and you''ll know all about him) and has about 5 readers.....bizarrely enough though, one of them happens to work in my office so I read the article.  Is certainly rather a poncey piece, laying it all on rather thick.  Yes we do tend to forget the families in all that sort of thing.  But then the article does rather seem to forget the thousands of pounds of hard earned cash that the supporters throw at the club each and every season, quite a portion of which ends up in the (failing) Manager''s pocket.

At the end of the day, it is a football club where emotions run high.  As not nice as it was, I am sure that the chanting etc was no worse than when GR/his family were at any other club, indeed, it was probably not as bad.  Whatever, I am sure they will be happy enough when they pay the pay-off cheque into the bank, if it is anything like the value we all imagine (or even if it isn''t).

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I am able to (and regularly during the games) ''visually monitor'' the Director''s Box from my ''pew''.....You can pick up a lot from watching what''s going on in there....I think the Daily Express journo''s comment''s regarding Mr Munby and some NCFC support - was to me personally, somewhat ''incorrect''.......and maybe OTT.....Wink, wink....[;)][;)] Roger.

Mr Dennis was sat right alongside Mr Wynn Jones during the FA Cup tie.....Nice scarf, Mr Dennis....Knit it yourself?

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[quote user="Jim Smith"]http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/80205[/quote]Seeing as he was there, I would be interested to read Mick Dennis''s match report which I assume would also be typically Stalinesque in its rewriting of history:"Nasty bad Charlton just kept tackling and stopping our brave lads from scoring.  Surging forward in wave after wave of Brazilian style attacks, our heroes were constantly fouled, kicked, punched and clotheslined by the foul Charlton horde intent on protecting their goal at any cost.  Roger Munby closed his eyes and breathed deeply.  "My God," he said, "they are barbarians."  Somehow, impossibly, unbelievably, and with every man jack of the Norwich side crouched down in disbelief, all energy spent on their noble efforts to conjure an equaliser, the final whistle blew and the foul mouthed abuse filled the stadium.  "To the bunker," cried Michael Wynn Jones, bravely batting away a local savage wielding a programme like a knife."

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[quote user="book end"]Mick Dennis is as out of touch with reality as the rest of the board, it''s no surprise he comes out with such flatulent guff. The comfortable chairs were no longer so comfortable - someone get some violins, and a bucket![/quote]

This is a man who in a recent article said, despite the protests that were likely to come their way, Delia and Michael would stick by Roeder. I''m surprised he still write for a national newspaper if he''s so out of touch with reality!

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What''s worse, is on Waghorn''s site, Waghorn himself in

http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/full_article.asp?i=4457&w=25&a=0&part=0

went and quoted pretty much all of Mick Dennis''s article! Bad pair the both of them, MD didn''t want to put it on Waghorn''s site as well so got Waghorn to put it in his self!

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[quote user="Sports Desk - Pete"]

Or for what it was really like to have to deal with Roeder day in, day out, read the last section of Lakey''s column:

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/sport/commentary/ChrisLakey.aspx

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That''s really damning.  I don''t think any Norwich manager, even failures like Grant and Hamilton, have been slated in the local press like Roeder has this week.  Its all coming out now.

 

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Good for Mr Lakey, well done. One tip though:

Don''t ever mention Martin O''Neill and Glenn Roeder in the same article again, please for the sake of my sanity! They are poles apart in every way. One a man who could have achieved so much here, but went on to do so elsewhere, but is a genuine person. The other.....

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it''s really clear that roeder''s style wasn''t suited to a manager of norwich city...  also his attitude is wrong for a person in the spotlight in norfolk... us East Anglians don''t like his sort... Personnally i liked Worthington as he was respectful, collected... - whatever people say about him he did a good job and bar the last season he was in charge i think all the players were totally behind him... he did things the right way...

Roeder on the otherhand... he clearly hasn''t. no man is bigger than the club... Roeder seemed to not care about that.

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Going back to Mick Dennis, JJ asks if the ''bile'' was really that strong and I can say I witnessed the fans having words with Munby at half time.

Dennis describes them as having faces ''contorted with rage'' as though they were thugs.

In reality, these were 2 or 3 rather elderly gentlemen (late 60s/70s) who were having a firm, but polite, word with Mr Munby. I didn''t see anything threatening about it but I guess it suits MD''s purposes to paint all disgruntled fans in a bad light.

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He was interviewd on Radio 5 Wednesday afternoon and made mention of how frightened Roeder''s wife had been of the demonstrations outside in Carrow Road. The guy is a dick, but then don''t most media types have to tread a line when reporting about clubs so as not to be barred and have to watch the game over a neighbours hedge on a set of steps.

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[quote user="The Prisoner"]Judge for yourselves.

Youtube video of the Roeder Out demo
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Jesus,that makes the Rodney King LA riot look tame.Glad i wasn''t in the ''inner sanctum'' with Mick et al,would have been scarier than being in that plane that landed on the Hudson.

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......what about Hucks family, Terry Postle and his family, Malky Mackay and Iwan Roberts. There are dozens of familys treated appalingly by Delia and Neil '' family man'' Doncaster and the board. This article was well written but it was sentimental despicable spinny tosh.

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