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In today''s Yellow & Geen Un Rodent is interviewed and states I quote ''But the one thing that has changed over the last 10 years or so  is that  most supporters think they are good judges''.

Right so I''m a knob, you are all knobs. Everyone is a knob apart from the biggest knob of them all.   

I am  a season ticket holder but will  not enter Carrow Road until Rodent has gone and if the fool  is still  the manager come the renewal  period I will  not be renewing.

I have followed NCFC since 1976. My first match was Hull at home NCFC won 2-1. I have followed them ever since but I have never know, in that time, a manager who is so  arrogant and treats us the fans with  utter contempt.

Rodent is no more a NCFC manager, at  heart, than an Ipswich  fan.

SO  RODENT YOU ARE THE KNOB.

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[quote user="Titanic"]

In today''s Yellow & Geen Un Rodent is interviewed and states I quote ''But the one thing that has changed over the last 10 years or so  is that  most supporters think they are good judges''.

Right so I''m a knob, you are all knobs. Everyone is a knob apart from the biggest knob of them all.   

I am  a season ticket holder but will  not enter Carrow Road until Rodent has gone and if the fool  is still  the manager come the renewal  period I will  not be renewing.

I have followed NCFC since 1976. My first match was Hull at home NCFC won 2-1. I have followed them ever since but I have never know, in that time, a manager who is so  arrogant and treats us the fans with  utter contempt.

Rodent is no more a NCFC manager, at  heart, than an Ipswich  fan.

SO  RODENT YOU ARE THE KNOB.

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That typically arrogant statement wound me right up Titanic...............I''ll rejoice when the bugger does go, thats for sure!

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i am a good judge of football. i play it, i watch it, i live it. that makes me a judge. And a utter retard that is blind, deaf, cannot speak a word of english and does not even like footabll, could even tell that yesterday was a shambles.

 

also whats the point in paying for a season ticket if your not going to go. that just makes u a knob aswell

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when i read it this morning i laughed to myself and thought it was brilliant because that plonker has just drove a bigger wedge between himself and the supporters, the man is such a fool, i have no doubt in my mind that he''ll be gone very soon!

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Because Roeders sucj an excellent judge himself isnt he...look at the quality loan signings like OJ and Troy and his ever so sumple press confrences and his amazing tactical genius that saw us play 6 midfielders-2 of which upfront against reading. Such a good judge that Roeder.

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[quote user="Titanic"]

In today''s Yellow & Geen Un Rodent is interviewed and states I quote ''But the one thing that has changed over the last 10 years or so  is that  most supporters think they are good judges''.

Right so I''m a knob, you are all knobs. Everyone is a knob apart from the biggest knob of them all.   

I am  a season ticket holder but will  not enter Carrow Road until Rodent has gone and if the fool  is still  the manager come the renewal  period I will  not be renewing.

I have followed NCFC since 1976. My first match was Hull at home NCFC won 2-1. I have followed them ever since but I have never know, in that time, a manager who is so  arrogant and treats us the fans with  utter contempt.

Rodent is no more a NCFC manager, at  heart, than an Ipswich  fan.

SO  RODENT YOU ARE THE KNOB.

[/quote]I think you answered your own question,  it''s ''Who''s the knob?''

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 Roeder continues to do himself no favours with these comments.

 

Its football, not brain surgery. I wouldn''t assume to pass comment on the work of a brain surgeon as I know nothing about what is an extremely skilled profession needing years of training, study and specialist application-you couldn''t "get by" on the subject, put it that way.

 

Football is different. We can have a decent knowledge of it, and do not have to be part of the "clique" within the game to  have that, so neither, by definition, are we all slack jawed locals who scratch their heads in wonder at the finer -if there are any- aspects of the game. Part of Roeder''s job is man management and, listening to his comments and the way he judges and treats people, I would say that myself and many other posters on here could do that part of his job just as well as he can. And, going back to the football, Roeder may well have this coaching badge or that coaching badge, well woo-hoo, but these are badges and qualifications anyone can take and pass, again, not just him with his pre-requisite of "I know everything, you know nothing". So Glenn, don''t keep on dismissing our take or knowedge of the game, fair play, we may not have played for Leyton Orient in the old second division like you did, or the Newcastle side that got relegated, but we can, and do, in the main, have a fairly good knowledge and appreciation of the game and yes, you can dismiss it all you like, but best do so quietly, and not in public, you seem to be keen on distancing yourself from everyone as it is, to do so with the fans won''t be an easy gulf to recover.

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The utter contempt this man treats those who pay his salary is simply stunning.Even the dimmest of managers understand that the fans are true ''owners'' of the club and the only regular source of money. Roeder is merely a blip in the history of NCFC (a crappy one at that) and he should understand that.  He seems to have some sort of god complex, believing that he is the most important thing around.Paul Jewell appears to have understood this simple fact, why can''t Roeder?

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[quote user="Old Shuck"] Roeder continues to do himself no favours with these comments.

 

Its football, not brain surgery. I wouldn''t assume to pass comment on the work of a brain surgeon as I know nothing about what is an extremely skilled profession needing years of training, study and specialist application-you couldn''t "get by" on the subject, put it that way.

 

Football is different. We can have a decent knowledge of it, and do not have to be part of the "clique" within the game to  have that, so neither, by definition, are we all slack jawed locals who scratch their heads in wonder at the finer -if there are any- aspects of the game. Part of Roeder''s job is man management and, listening to his comments and the way he judges and treats people, I would say that myself and many other posters on here could do that part of his job just as well as he can. And, going back to the football, Roeder may well have this coaching badge or that coaching badge, well woo-hoo, but these are badges and qualifications anyone can take and pass, again, not just him with his pre-requisite of "I know everything, you know nothing". So Glenn, don''t keep on dismissing our take or knowedge of the game, fair play, we may not have played for Leyton Orient in the old second division like you did, or the Newcastle side that got relegated, but we can, and do, in the main, have a fairly good knowledge and appreciation of the game and yes, you can dismiss it all you like, but best do so quietly, and not in public, you seem to be keen on distancing yourself from everyone as it is, to do so with the fans won''t be an easy gulf to recover.

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Good post. Roeder''s PR abilities seem to deteriorate by the minute. He just can''t seem to stop himself coming out with something that he thinks is witty, but to everyone comes across as sarcastic or arrogant. It''s niave in the extreme to suggest that fans only have opinions because of football on the TV. When I first started going in the 60s there was plenty of "advice" flying about! The simple fact is that fans pay a great deal of money to watch football and have every right to express their opinions.

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Hmm. I wonder if Lee Clark was the player''s "motivator" or at least the one who dealt on a day to day and management basis with the playing staff.Since he''s gone, we''ve looked dire.  3 points from 12 and that was against a Charlton side who couldn''t beat an egg.

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[quote user="Titanic"]

In today''s Yellow & Geen Un Rodent is interviewed and states I quote ''But the one thing that has changed over the last 10 years or so  is that  most supporters think they are good judges''.

Right so I''m a knob, you are all knobs. Everyone is a knob apart from the biggest knob of them all.   

I am  a season ticket holder but will  not enter Carrow Road until Rodent has gone and if the fool  is still  the manager come the renewal  period I will  not be renewing.

I have followed NCFC since 1976. My first match was Hull at home NCFC won 2-1. I have followed them ever since but I have never know, in that time, a manager who is so  arrogant and treats us the fans with  utter contempt.

Rodent is no more a NCFC manager, at  heart, than an Ipswich  fan.

SO  RODENT YOU ARE THE KNOB.

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It doesn''t take a particularly "good judge" to recognise that 48 hours after a team had been thumped at home to Doncaster, that they would be on their knees and for the taking, to only play one striker against them is unforgivable- I bet Forest couldn''t believe their luck,

 Do what Paul Jewell has done this morning Roeder and accept that it hasn''t worked and walk - otherwise this may get nasty over he next fortnight !!

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It''s like the cat calling the Kettle black, because from what I have seen Glenn Roeder is not exactly the best judge at things football.

Yet again he has insulted those who pay his salary. Is he after confontation. He seem like he is. If he makes war with the fans he won''t win.

He goes down in my estimation all the time.

He should walk away before it''s all too late and well and truly gone belly up and pear shape.   

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[quote user="Titanic"]

In today''s Yellow & Geen Un Rodent is interviewed and states I quote ''But the one thing that has changed over the last 10 years or so  is that  most supporters think they are good judges''.

Right so I''m a knob, you are all knobs. Everyone is a knob apart from the biggest knob of them all.   

I am  a season ticket holder but will  not enter Carrow Road until Rodent has gone and if the fool  is still  the manager come the renewal  period I will  not be renewing.

I have followed NCFC since 1976. My first match was Hull at home NCFC won 2-1. I have followed them ever since but I have never know, in that time, a manager who is so  arrogant and treats us the fans with  utter contempt.

Rodent is no more a NCFC manager, at  heart, than an Ipswich  fan.

SO  RODENT YOU ARE THE KNOB.

[/quote] I am also a season ticket holder and will not be entering the ground again until he leaves, this is after only missing a handful of games in approx 20 years. He has managed to alienate so many supporters in such a short space of time.

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the arrogant one said in his interview yesterday after we''d lost (again) thats not us, well yes it is glen and has been all season, less points than last season would suggest so you fool!

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[quote user="Mister Chops"]Hmm. I wonder if Lee Clark was the player''s "motivator" or at least the one who dealt on a day to day and management basis with the playing staff.Since he''s gone, we''ve looked dire.  3 points from 12 and that was against a Charlton side who couldn''t beat an egg.

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It does seem that way, Mr Chops.Clark was the man in the technical area and by all accounts the players responded better to him than the hapless, arms folded Roeder.

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[quote user="shyster"][quote user="Mister Chops"]Hmm. I wonder if Lee Clark was the player''s "motivator" or at least the one who dealt on a day to day and management basis with the playing staff.

Since he''s gone, we''ve looked dire.  3 points from 12 and that was against a Charlton side who couldn''t beat an egg.



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It does seem that way, Mr Chops.

Clark was the man in the technical area and by all accounts the players responded better to him than the hapless, arms folded Roeder.
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On the way home from the scum game I had Canary Call on the radio and Roeder was being interviewed. The wife, who in fairness isn''t exactly a football afficianado, asked " Who on earth is that ?". When I explained that it was our glorious manager she said " How in the world can he motivate anyone, he''d send me to sleep!". Out of the mouths of babes etc!!!

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[quote user="shyster"][quote user="Mister Chops"]Hmm. I wonder if Lee Clark was the player''s "motivator" or at least the one who dealt on a day to day and management basis with the playing staff.

Since he''s gone, we''ve looked dire.  3 points from 12 and that was against a Charlton side who couldn''t beat an egg.



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It does seem that way, Mr Chops.

Clark was the man in the technical area and by all accounts the players responded better to him than the hapless, arms folded Roeder.
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I work with a Huddersfield fan and he reckons Clark is doing a brilliant job and have won 7 out of 9 games ( This is what he told me stats could well be wrong ) I said we should''ve kept Clark and let them have Roeder.

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Why do people think Roeder will listen to them?

The guy is a self opinionated megolomaniac.

Half the problem is that his pre match pep talk lulls the players into a semi sleep state.

It takes  at least a half to come out of this hypnotic state, by which time it is usually to late!

Only players like the Doc who are  to err less sensative seem to be Roeder proof!

So the simple answer is to keep Roeder away from the players and tactics and team talks.

That way we do not need to get rid of him, leave him in a room talking to himself and the self induced coma will take effect.

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Why do people think Roeder will listen to them?

The guy is a self opinionated megolomaniac.

[/quote]You say that but then I''m not sure I''d be willing to listen to the sort of people who call me names etc. on an internet forum. [8-|]

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So, you''re all applying for the job if he leaves then are you? Good luck with some of your spelling!!He is right when he says the team are humans - humans have off days. So, we''ve had more than our fair share so far this season - but we''ll be fine come May. The players know what trouble they''re in, no one wants to be in this position. Turning on Roeder will certainly not help matters. Fair enough, the stats don''t lie but I still believe he is potentially the best manager we could have for a long time.If some of you will not renew your season tickets because of him, well that''s petty, and great for me! I have been waiting for one for a while! So do it! Go support Chelsea or Man U??? Meanwhile I''ll be getting to the ground on time for the Barnsley match, not 5 minutes late as was suggested in another thread, cheering my team and supporting the club.Not booing or chanting Roeder out, as suggested in another thread.  If the grounds half empty, then it''s because football fans DON''T know what they''re talking about - and that would then prove Glenn Roeder very very right.

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Actually after Clark left we had two excellent performances which we were very unlucky not to get 4 points from and then a scrappy win so thats not quite true

And Roeder is right.... fans DO for some reason think they could do his job even though all most see is 90 minutes every other week out of what.......10 -15 hours with the players, more hours dealing with coaching staff and studying opposition, the politic of the board, the loan players yada yada yada

Yet if someone said to you they could do your job better than you you''d no doubt feel a bit miffed.

I dont dispute he calls a spade a spade but wasn''t that what so many on here saw as a virtue when he arrived? Until he disagrees with you it seems.....

Clarke''s comments about Roeder when he left seem to have been forgotten very quickly. If you were a manager would you sit in the dugout? I wouldn''t, how the hell are you supposed to get a good perspective on the game? You''d all soon be moaning like hell if Sky shifted all their cameras to ground level.....think about it

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[quote user="IBA"]And Roeder is right.... fans DO for some reason think they could do his job even though all most see is 90 minutes every other week out of what.......10 -15 hours with the players, more hours dealing with coaching staff and studying opposition, the politic of the board, the loan players yada yada yada

Yet if someone said to you they could do your job better than you you''d no doubt feel a bit miffed. [/quote]Too right.

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Unbelievable really. He is very well paid for doing his job, with money coming out of our pockets. Comments like that will only serve to turn more fans against him than he had before. Mindless - and not what the team needs right now.

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It wasn''t an attempt at winding anyone up Rudolph, if anything, I''ve wound myself up. I''ve seen many highs as a supporter, and now am seeing a period of lows. How is chanting and booing Roeder and his team going to help matters. If someone came on a message board and said they could do my job better than me, I''d be inclined to react exactly how GR did.But, I guess as we''re from Norfolk, we don''t like people disagreeing with us, because we know everything there is to know about the world and all its issues, right?

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Great post; time for Roeder to go, and for fans attending the next home match to make their feelings clear to the ''knob''. Paul Jewell available?

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For us Roeder out fans it can only be a good thing that Roeder has this attitude. Keep it going Glen and you will need 24 hour security guards. He is absolutely clueless. But the board hired him so is he to blame? Deep down? Our club is rotten and has been for a long, long time. We are now wanting a new board at the worst possible financial time. Cant see it getting much better too soon.

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