Irish canary 0 Posted November 25, 2008 I try not to get on the whole "what is roeder playing at?!" side of things, I usually think he should be given time, but I cannot for the life of me figure out yet again what he is doing leaving out Hoolahan for an unfit Sibierski, Im sick to death saying this. If we lose hoolahan and he plays brilliant for another team its Roeder''s fault im prett sick of him now! And Lupoli deserves a fair shot also! I wont go into another rant over the defending of Bertran and Omozusi as I did this after the forest match, sh*t! PLAY HOOLAHAN DAMN IT!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 25, 2008 Coz he is pants!!!Understand now??? [8-)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish canary 0 Posted November 25, 2008 [quote user="Smudger"]Coz he is pants!!!Understand now??? [8-)][/quote] So who is ur replacement then?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo 0 Posted November 26, 2008 You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John 0 Posted November 26, 2008 Don''t acknowledge Smudge, it only provokes him to continue spouting absolute nonsense....It''s nothing short of ridiculous Hoolahan didn''t start night. All tonight proved to me was when i thought it would be impossible for me to think less of Roeders tactics and man management he goes and surprises me with a new, outstandingly dreadful performance...I really hope Roeder starts to see sense to some sort of degree soon, or we will suffer badly as a consequence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish canary 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Lambo"]You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote] Agreed 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Irish canary"][quote user="Lambo"] You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote] Agreed 100%[/quote]hahahaahahahaha you have me in hysterics now... one of the Championships greatest???What at exactly???How many has he scored this year?How many has he set up????Give you a big clue... ZEROHardly the new Hucks is he??? [:$] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Irish canary"][quote user="Smudger"] Coz he is pants!!!Understand now??? [8-)][/quote] So who is ur replacement then??[/quote]Well if I was Roeder then I think I would cut my losses and put Hoolahan up for sale at Christmas...Any takers for a FREE TRANSFER??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Spector 0 Posted November 26, 2008 Just ignore Smudger and hope he goes away - he clearly hasn''t got any opinions worth airing so for the best.Hooly COULD be really great here, and only time will tell. Personally not sure Roeder is the right type of manager for him though! We''ve looked a lot better with him in the side at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish canary 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Irish canary"][quote user="Lambo"] You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote] Agreed 100%[/quote]hahahaahahahaha you have me in hysterics now... one of the Championships greatest???What at exactly???How many has he scored this year?How many has he set up????Give you a big clue... ZEROHardly the new Hucks is he??? [:$][/quote] Probably because he hasent been given the chance. Right, good luck!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo 0 Posted November 26, 2008 Come watch us for a change mate. Until you do nobody around here is going to take you seriously, with Hoolahan on the pitch we thoroughly outplayed Palace tonight and Wes was a cut above any player on the pitch he''s got it all for me, awareness, skill, quick, determination and wants the ball at every oppourtunity, but unfortunatly as you don''t watch City play you wouldn''t see what he brings to Norwich... i would have said our team but i very much doubt you actually support Norwich anymore.If your not gonna come watch and just want the team to fail... F*ck off and find a new team, the club doesn''t need people like you about.But before you go on and on spouting the usual about how Delia has blinded me etc etc... go read the last line of that post of mine in the quote. "It''s not the players that are the problem" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="We Want Worthy Back"]Just ignore Smudger and hope he goes away - he clearly hasn''t got any opinions worth airing so for the best. Hooly COULD be really great here, and only time will tell. Personally not sure Roeder is the right type of manager for him though! We''ve looked a lot better with him in the side at least.[/quote]So how many games have we won with Hoolahan in the side then???Want to back up your arguement with a few stats???No I thought not... [:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Lambo"]Come watch us for a change mate. Until you do nobody around here is going to take you seriously, with Hoolahan on the pitch we thoroughly outplayed Palace tonight and Wes was a cut above any player on the pitch he''s got it all for me, awareness, skill, quick, determination and wants the ball at every oppourtunity, but unfortunatly as you don''t watch City play you wouldn''t see what he brings to Norwich... i would have said our team but i very much doubt you actually support Norwich anymore.If your not gonna come watch and just want the team to fail... F*ck off and find a new team, the club doesn''t need people like you about.But before you go on and on spouting the usual about how Delia has blinded me etc etc... go read the last line of that post of mine in the quote. "It''s not the players that are the problem"[/quote]No thanks... oh and I think you will find it is the players that are the problem...Like I told you (yet again) before a ball was kicked in anger this season... WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGHWe have got what we have paid for... a 5-a-side team of never has beens, cast off''s and a few players after a run out.Pay peanuts, you get monkeys!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Irish canary"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Irish canary"][quote user="Lambo"] You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote] Agreed 100%[/quote]hahahaahahahaha you have me in hysterics now... one of the Championships greatest???What at exactly???How many has he scored this year?How many has he set up????Give you a big clue... ZEROHardly the new Hucks is he??? [:$][/quote] Probably because he hasent been given the chance. Right, good luck!!!! [/quote]Remind me who started this season (as our supposed new left winger and replacement for a certain Darren Huckerby) again???Sorry, I can''t hear you??? [:$] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Lambo"]You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote]Where as you need to get an education on what makes a good footballer and a good football team.I suppose you think Lee Croft is an excellent winger too??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo 0 Posted November 26, 2008 Smudge.... the only game we won which Hoolahan didn''t start was Sheff United, he started in very other one of our wins this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo 0 Posted November 26, 2008 *everySo yeah... i''d say Norwich are a better side with Hoolahan in it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 That is hardly a clear indicator of anything though is it Lambo?Hoolahan has nearly started in every game we have lost this season also.Facts are that he has started 90% of the games for us thus far this season and hasn''t produced any goals or any clear cut scoring chances for others in any of them.Now forgive me if I am wrong, but I thought that is what the little fella was brought here to do???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Smudger"]That is hardly a clear indicator of anything though is it Lambo?Hoolahan has nearly started in every game we have lost this season also.[/quote] We''ve lost 8 times so far this season and Hoolahan started in 3 of those games. Compare that to starting in 4 of the 5 wins we''ve had. Would you like me to compare draws too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo 0 Posted November 26, 2008 Sod it i compared them anyway and we''ve drawn 5 times this season with Hoolahan starting 3 of them... so thats 19 games played with Hoolahan starting in 10... and we''ve picked up 15 of our 20 points when Hoolahan has started matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Here We Go 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Lambo"] You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote]Where as you need to get an education on what makes a good footballer and a good football team.I suppose you think Lee Croft is an excellent winger too???[/quote] Crofty is a good player, his crossing is getting there and he scares players with his pace. Last night he crossed for Fatty Pattison to score, against forrest he crossed a peach of a ball in for are second goal, he scored a great solo run agaisnt sheff utd, he set up 2 against Cardiff. Should i go on. And hooolihan bossed are midfiled last night, and for twenty minutes against forrest befoe he had to go off, when the Doc got sent off. So he hasnt scored yet, give him more than 45 mins and he will get there when he is playing in teh correct position, he isnt a left winger, he is a central attacking midfielder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Lambo"]Sod it i compared them anyway and we''ve drawn 5 times this season with Hoolahan starting 3 of them... so thats 19 games played with Hoolahan starting in 10... and we''ve picked up 15 of our 20 points when Hoolahan has started matches.[/quote]But he has started 90% of the games though hasn''t he???It is only a handful he hasn''t started.He was dropped to the bench for not producing what he was brought here to produce (just a reminder incase you had forgot)... [;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Belaugh Yellow"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Lambo"] You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote]Where as you need to get an education on what makes a good footballer and a good football team.I suppose you think Lee Croft is an excellent winger too???[/quote] Crofty is a good player, his crossing is getting there and he scares players with his pace. Last night he crossed for Fatty Pattison to score, against forrest he crossed a peach of a ball in for are second goal, he scored a great solo run agaisnt sheff utd, he set up 2 against Cardiff. Should i go on. And hooolihan bossed are midfiled last night, and for twenty minutes against forrest befoe he had to go off, when the Doc got sent off. So he hasnt scored yet, give him more than 45 mins and he will get there when he is playing in teh correct position, he isnt a left winger, he is a central attacking midfielder[/quote]Blimey... I never realised Crofty had done so much in a couple of years at the club.... hardly a good return that all you can remember is this in approx 2 years is it???A couple of goals and a couple of assists from one creative genius with no goals and no assists from our latest creative icon... how easily pleased you lot are!!! [:$] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Here We Go 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Belaugh Yellow"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Lambo"] You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote]Where as you need to get an education on what makes a good footballer and a good football team.I suppose you think Lee Croft is an excellent winger too???[/quote] Crofty is a good player, his crossing is getting there and he scares players with his pace. Last night he crossed for Fatty Pattison to score, against forrest he crossed a peach of a ball in for are second goal, he scored a great solo run agaisnt sheff utd, he set up 2 against Cardiff. Should i go on. And hooolihan bossed are midfiled last night, and for twenty minutes against forrest befoe he had to go off, when the Doc got sent off. So he hasnt scored yet, give him more than 45 mins and he will get there when he is playing in teh correct position, he isnt a left winger, he is a central attacking midfielder[/quote]Blimey... I never realised Crofty had done so much in a couple of years at the club.... hardly a good return that all you can remember is this in approx 2 years is it???A couple of goals and a couple of assists from one creative genius with no goals and no assists from our latest creative icon... how easily pleased you lot are!!! [:$][/quote] oh iam sorry that i couldn''t remember every single thing he has done for the club in two years, but when he first came here he was settign up goals left right and centre, for earnie to score and others. That his pace can scare players that he can clear are lines with solo runs that gives are defense tiem to reorganise, and he casue problems for there defense at the same time.In my opinion that is a good quality to have. BUt because i don''t agree with what you are saying i must be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambo 0 Posted November 26, 2008 You need to work on your maths Smudge... 10 starts from 19 matches doesn''t equal 90%, it''s about 60%, like i said, Norwich play better with Hoolahan in the side, he ran the 2nd half yesterday, unfortunatly your head is too far up your backside to see anything but your own views which are utterly ridiculous since you don''t bother watching games and wouldn''t see the general impact Hoolahan has on Norwich when he plays. Like i said he may not be directly getting dozens of goals and assists but if you look at when we have scored i''d be willing to bet Hoolahan played a part in most of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIC 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Lambo"]You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote]Where as you need to get an education on what makes a good footballer and a good football team.I suppose you think Lee Croft is an excellent winger too???[/quote]You''re an arrogant tit aren''t you? You think you know better than anyone but you''re just an ignoramus who rants on about the same tedious shyte day after day. I''m really glad I don''t know you in person, must be a nightmare to share air with you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Lambo"]You need to work on your maths Smudge... 10 starts from 19 matches doesn''t equal 90%, it''s about 60%, like i said, Norwich play better with Hoolahan in the side, he ran the 2nd half yesterday, unfortunatly your head is too far up your backside to see anything but your own views which are utterly ridiculous since you don''t bother watching games and wouldn''t see the general impact Hoolahan has on Norwich when he plays. Like i said he may not be directly getting dozens of goals and assists but if you look at when we have scored i''d be willing to bet Hoolahan played a part in most of them.[/quote]I made it 11 starts from 19... if you want to be picky, picky.Most of the games he hasn''t started he has had a run out in some shape or form... and still no goals or no goalscoring chances created in how many minutes of football this season???Should we maybe ask Wes himself if he thinks he has been good value for his paltry transfer fee so far this season???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Spector 0 Posted November 26, 2008 God I hope we win a game soon so that Smudger will crawl back into his hole again/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="Belaugh Yellow"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Belaugh Yellow"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Lambo"] You honestly belive Wes Hoolahan is a bad player?You need to actually come watch City sometime Smudge, you''d see Hoolahan is the best player our club has and one of the best in the championship.It''s not the players that are the problem mate.[/quote]Where as you need to get an education on what makes a good footballer and a good football team.I suppose you think Lee Croft is an excellent winger too???[/quote] Crofty is a good player, his crossing is getting there and he scares players with his pace. Last night he crossed for Fatty Pattison to score, against forrest he crossed a peach of a ball in for are second goal, he scored a great solo run agaisnt sheff utd, he set up 2 against Cardiff. Should i go on. And hooolihan bossed are midfiled last night, and for twenty minutes against forrest befoe he had to go off, when the Doc got sent off. So he hasnt scored yet, give him more than 45 mins and he will get there when he is playing in teh correct position, he isnt a left winger, he is a central attacking midfielder[/quote]Blimey... I never realised Crofty had done so much in a couple of years at the club.... hardly a good return that all you can remember is this in approx 2 years is it???A couple of goals and a couple of assists from one creative genius with no goals and no assists from our latest creative icon... how easily pleased you lot are!!! [:$][/quote] oh iam sorry that i couldn''t remember every single thing he has done for the club in two years, but when he first came here he was settign up goals left right and centre, for earnie to score and others. That his pace can scare players that he can clear are lines with solo runs that gives are defense tiem to reorganise, and he casue problems for there defense at the same time.In my opinion that is a good quality to have. BUt because i don''t agree with what you are saying i must be wrong.[/quote]Did I say that???Did I say you are not allowed to have a differing view???I don''t agree... I think Croft is poor... yes he can run with the ball... but there is rarely any end product.Saying that I would rather have him in the team comparede to what I have seen from Hoolahan so far any day of the week!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted November 26, 2008 [quote user="We Want Worthy Back"]God I hope we win a game soon so that Smudger will crawl back into his hole again/[/quote]I hope we lose every game until Delia crawls back to Suffolk and you and those who have ably supported her openly admit how wrong you have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites