Hands in pocket summed it up for me - stubborn and arrogant

[silver fox 0]

I watched Roeder during the Swansea game yesterday, and all I saw was a manager with his hands in his pocket, which just about sums up his attitude for me.  This clearly sends a message out to the players on the field that he isn''t interested so why should they be bothered.  I genuinely believe that this is the most arrogant and stubborn manager we have ever had at Norwich.  He doesn''t seem concerned in any way what the supporters think, and will do it his way because he is always right. 

  I cannot think of any other team I have seen in the Championship this year that plays a naturally right footed player on the left and a naturally left footed player on the right.  I lost count the number of times Pattison and Bell let the ball go into touch on their respective wings yesterday because it came onto their weak foot, and they couldn''t control it.  I guess Roeder believes he is tactically better than any other manager in this league, and that they wouldn''t think to employ this tactic.  Even his own players seem baffled by his decision to play them out of position. 

I dread the televised game next week because I remember vividly the QPR game before Grant resigned.  The annoying thing is I can''t see Roeder doing the decent thing if he loses the respect of the players. 

 One point out of twelve in the last four games is relegation form, and the only reason we are not in the bottom three is because Soton, Watford and Charlton are all losing as well.

[singing canary 0]

i said this eight weeks ago .... roeders awfull at tactics, mind you you dont have to be a football manger to work out a right foot person should play on the right, and a left footed player on the left, people are also forgeting since we are so skint the huge blunder of letting joe lewis going on the cheap and numerous other bad management choices.

people who are defending this man considering he doesnt even know how to build team spirit and raport, and talks to everyone like they dont know what they are talking about, mr roeder needs to take a step back- abig one out of carrow road gates.

 

[Mook 0]

Or .... it was cold?

[silver fox 0]

I have just listened to Roeders comments on BBC video, and funny old thing he laid  the blame totally with the players yesterday, and even managed to get a comment in about their intelligence.  This man''s arrogance just gets worse, and I can really see how his latest outburst is going to win the players over.  Perhaps Mr Cullum could lend us the money it will cost to remove the manager now while we still have time to bring in someone who can actually man manage players, and get them playing as a team.

[silver fox 0]

[quote user="Mook"]Or .... it was cold?
[/quote]  Can I assume that you are a Roeder fan then Mook?

[First Wizard 0]

The bloke knows he''s safe and can do what he likes.

We''re totally buggered!

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="Mook"]Or .... it was cold?[/quote]Or maybe he was having a little ''tickle'' to cheer himself up...

[ca 1]

[quote user="Mook"]Or .... it was cold?
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No it was really mild yesterday Mook.

I didn''t look at Roeder because the sight of him after Tuesday would make me sick.

[Sing Up The South Stand 0]

He does leave a lot to be desired, but if footballers can''t work out themselves the basics of defending is that really Roeder''s fault?  Or them not doing what they were told? 

I don''t really see how Roeder can be blamed for their goals yesterday they were really schoolboy errors.

[Green and Yellow 0]

Its because he is a banker.

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="silver fox"]

I watched Roeder during the Swansea game yesterday, and all I saw was a manager with his hands in his pocket, which just about sums up his attitude for me.  This clearly sends a message out to the players on the field that he isn''t interested so why should they be bothered.  I genuinely believe that this is the most arrogant and stubborn manager we have ever had at Norwich.  He doesn''t seem concerned in any way what the supporters think, and will do it his way because he is always right. 

  I cannot think of any other team I have seen in the Championship this year that plays a naturally right footed player on the left and a naturally left footed player on the right.  I lost count the number of times Pattison and Bell let the ball go into touch on their respective wings yesterday because it came onto their weak foot, and they couldn''t control it.  I guess Roeder believes he is tactically better than any other manager in this league, and that they wouldn''t think to employ this tactic.  Even his own players seem baffled by his decision to play them out of position. 

I dread the televised game next week because I remember vividly the QPR game before Grant resigned.  The annoying thing is I can''t see Roeder doing the decent thing if he loses the respect of the players. 

 One point out of twelve in the last four games is relegation form, and the only reason we are not in the bottom three is because Soton, Watford and Charlton are all losing as well.

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Obviously he is following Munby''s strategy ''We have to be cleverer than the rest''.

Next week we are to play with Lita in goal and Marshall up front for the first half.

The tactic will be named by Munby after Roeder; who will then claim it to be as inventive as Alf Ramsay''s wingless wonders who won us the World Cup.

Being clearly ''cleverer than the rest'', Munby will patent it with the expectation of swimming into the Prem on a sea of royalties.

Delia will then reject this additional funding until she knows exactly who each penny came from and has them checked out to ensure their general ''suitability'' and their nationalities.

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OTBC

 

 

 

 

 

[CiderkiddCanary 0]

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="silver fox"]

I watched Roeder during the Swansea game yesterday, and all I saw was a manager with his hands in his pocket, which just about sums up his attitude for me.  This clearly sends a message out to the players on the field that he isn''t interested so why should they be bothered.  I genuinely believe that this is the most arrogant and stubborn manager we have ever had at Norwich.  He doesn''t seem concerned in any way what the supporters think, and will do it his way because he is always right. 

  I cannot think of any other team I have seen in the Championship this year that plays a naturally right footed player on the left and a naturally left footed player on the right.  I lost count the number of times Pattison and Bell let the ball go into touch on their respective wings yesterday because it came onto their weak foot, and they couldn''t control it.  I guess Roeder believes he is tactically better than any other manager in this league, and that they wouldn''t think to employ this tactic.  Even his own players seem baffled by his decision to play them out of position. 

I dread the televised game next week because I remember vividly the QPR game before Grant resigned.  The annoying thing is I can''t see Roeder doing the decent thing if he loses the respect of the players. 

 One point out of twelve in the last four games is relegation form, and the only reason we are not in the bottom three is because Soton, Watford and Charlton are all losing as well.

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Obviously he is following Munby''s strategy ''We have to be cleverer than the rest''.

Next week we are to play with Lita in goal and Marshall up front for the first half.

The tactic will be named by Munby after Roeder; who will then claim it to be as inventive as Alf Ramsay''s wingless wonders who won us the World Cup.

Being clearly ''cleverer than the rest'', Munby will patent it with the expectation of swimming into the Prem on a sea of royalties.

Delia will then reject this additional funding until she knows exactly who each penny came from and has them checked out to ensure their general ''suitability'' and their nationalities.

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OTBC

 

 

 

 

 

[/quote]lol, could you imagine delia''s face if we adopt the Euro?all those pennies distributed OUTSIDE of Norfolk!! [:O]

[Yellowfuture 71]

[quote user="cityangel"]

[quote user="Mook"]Or .... it was cold?
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No it was really mild yesterday Mook.

I didn''t look at Roeder because the sight of him after Tuesday would make me sick.

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Sounds like he really upset a lot of people, you can get away with arrogance if your good, if your a failure you just look a  tw..t.

[Mook 0]

[quote user="silver fox"][quote user="Mook"]Or .... it was cold?[/quote]  Can I assume that you are a Roeder fan then Mook?[/quote]Oh yeah, he''s great. And a nice bloke to boot.No, I''m not a "fan".However, we spent a long time thinking that Worthington was an idiot because he wouldn''t "tell it like it is" and now we have someone that "tells it like it is" everyone takes a personal dislike to him.He''s failing, that much is clear, but he''s got a tough job and didn''t inherit a good team.I just get annoyed with all the people that are offended by his personality. Personality wise, I couldn''t give a rats ass what he''s like as long as it works. He''s not my mate and I don''t want him to be my mate either. People get too easily offended if you ask me.

[Yellow Rider 0]

[quote user="Mook"][quote user="silver fox"][quote user="Mook"]Or .... it was cold?
[/quote]  Can I assume that you are a Roeder fan then Mook?[/quote]

Oh yeah, he''s great. And a nice bloke to boot.

No, I''m not a "fan".

However, we spent a long time thinking that Worthington was an idiot because he wouldn''t "tell it like it is" and now we have someone that "tells it like it is" everyone takes a personal dislike to him.

He''s failing, that much is clear, but he''s got a tough job and didn''t inherit a good team.

I just get annoyed with all the people that are offended by his personality. Personality wise, I couldn''t give a rats ass what he''s like as long as it works. He''s not my mate and I don''t want him to be my mate either. People get too easily offended if you ask me.
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Very good post Mook!! Your last point is exactly what GR was saying at the AGM about the modern day footballer i.e. how they tend (some of them anyway) to react badly to criticism taking the ill mannered and yes ''arrogant'' stance of .......''you can''t say that to me''!

GR has taken a storm of criticism over one sarcastic remark at the AGM. Imagine Ferguson''s reaction if same had happend to him?? He would have just spat out his gum, gave a load of four letter expletives and stormed out!

[Largey 0]

If we were winning it on the pitch, then Roeder would be all of our best-friends.

Where does the inspiration come from for the players?

I feel the players are scared of failing, in front of a crowd which nearly fills its stadium.

Logical? Would you feel more confident playing in front of a half-empty stadium, or a full stadium, irrespective of its size? Personally, I feel a fully packed stadium is great when you are winning, but a possible hindrance when you are losing. They are too scared of failing atm.

[ca 1]

[quote user="Largey"]

If we were winning it on the pitch, then Roeder would be all of our best-friends.

Where does the inspiration come from for the players?

I feel the players are scared of failing, in front of a crowd which nearly fills its stadium.

Logical? Would you feel more confident playing in front of a half-empty stadium, or a full stadium, irrespective of its size? Personally, I feel a fully packed stadium is great when you are winning, but a possible hindrance when you are losing. They are too scared of failing atm.

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Even if we win 6 games in a row I still wouldn''t like him but I would admit that he''s doing a good job then.

[Thecanaryfan 0]

[quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="Mook"]Or .... it was cold?
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Or maybe he was having a little ''tickle'' to cheer himself up...
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LOL. I saw him eyeing up Fotheringham at the time. [;)]

[Largey 0]

CA, do you feel the players are scared of failing in front of a full crowd? I personally think this is adding to the pressure, the rushed football, the Square 1 football.

Of course, there is nothing that can be done about this (by us, the fans).

Im not sure if I am trying to backup the players or not. I get the impression Roeder wouldnt let them off easily after a loss, I wouldnt question his input, his desire to win.

This is a job which requires the manager to work with little/no funds, and moreso work on team ethic, performance and belief. Roeder is craving for some wonga to splash, he just doesnt have that here. You cant blame him for trying the loans, but they are gradually eating away at what little funds we do have.

Short-term plans are available, long-term plans are out of our hands.