alex_ncfc 643 Posted November 2, 2008 ...that have been caused by a win just when the fans were beginning to lose patience - thus making a lot of the head in the sand brigade thinking that we have turned some sort of corner. Shall we list them?I remember Southampton in the Prem, there was a lot of build up to that one. Then we won the game and suddenly we were "off and running" apparently.Cardiff the following season. All hell was going to let loose had we lost that home game. But sure enough we won by the flukiest of OGs - and that was that - e i e i e i, up the football league we go, and all that shite. Yet that season turned out well for the title favourites didn''t it?I''m sure there are numerous other occasions since then.What I''m saying is we really need to get this all moving, and we can''t allow a lucky win over Preston to change the way we think - well, that wouldn''t be a case for a lot of us anyway - but I just know for some, if we do win against PNE, then the playoffs are a formality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green and Yellow 0 Posted November 2, 2008 Pivotal moment, NCFC not signing DEAN ASHTON in August at the start of the Premiership season. Signed at the start and NCFC would have stayed up no doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_ncfc 643 Posted November 2, 2008 That''s very true - how things could have turned out had we signed him (or a striker who knew what a goal was) at the start of that season.But mainly talking here about games which we have won which have suddenly convinced the fans we are world beaters, despite losing the previous 5, and therefore taking the heat off the board.Worthy''s 5 match winning run in December 2005 being another case in point. He was looking destined for the sack, then suddenly we''re playoff material to many. Although to be honest, what we would give for a 9th placed finish this season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted November 2, 2008 [quote user="alex_ncfc"]That''s very true - how things could have turned out had we signed him (or a striker who knew what a goal was) at the start of that season.But mainly talking here about games which we have won which have suddenly convinced the fans we are world beaters, despite losing the previous 5, and therefore taking the heat off the board.Worthy''s 5 match winning run in December 2005 being another case in point. He was looking destined for the sack, then suddenly we''re playoff material to many. Although to be honest, what we would give for a 9th placed finish this season...[/quote]at this minute i would take any finishing place apart from the bottom 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
we8wba 0 Posted November 2, 2008 sale of rob earnshawnever really replaced him since we a permanant 15-20 goal man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_ncfc 643 Posted November 2, 2008 [quote user="top the league and we avin a laugh"] sale of rob earnshawnever really replaced him since we a permanant 15-20 goal man[/quote]Agreed. Although we were in a downward spiral when he was here, and he''s hardly setting the league alight at Forest.But only Norwich would replace a player of Earnie''s quality with an ageing journeyman who had one lucky season under his belt and said "I want to go back to Norwich" - would we have been interested otherwise? Hell no. As soon as he muttered those words in the press, the Norwich board thought "cheap option" - as per usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted November 2, 2008 Sorry folks you all talk about pivotal moments , Ashton was a pivotal moment and yes we would have stayed up had we signed Ashton.But the real pivotal moment was the not signing of Peter Crouch from Aston Villa after his loan spell, Villa wanted 2 million, we couldnt afford it, so Southampton stepped in with 2 million and the rest is history, it was a gamble that couldnt fail, players like that will always re-coup their transfer fee, Southampton had a hatful of goals out of him and 8 million profit, we once again need to show the ambition from 4-5 yrs ago and push the boat out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted November 2, 2008 I felt the need to bump this!! Does no-one agree this was probably the biggest mistake we made, Come on, Where are you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
we8wba 0 Posted November 2, 2008 i say a bigger mistake would have been not turning up vs fulham than ashtonwho to say ashton wouldnt got injured? or started of on form. yes most likely scenerio is that you would have picked up some more points, but you cant garuntee it would have. whilst if you turned up vs fulham and got the win you would have stayed up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted November 2, 2008 Good god We8wba have you even read my post, Crouch not Ashton, that was the mistake !!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
we8wba 0 Posted November 2, 2008 delia f*cked said ashton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted November 2, 2008 Yes i know but that was not the pivotal moment, Crouch was !!!! Aaaaarrggghhhhh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickey phelans tash 0 Posted November 2, 2008 [quote user="Tim Dawson"]Sorry folks you all talk about pivotal moments , Ashton was a pivotal moment and yes we would have stayed up had we signed Ashton.But the real pivotal moment was the not signing of Peter Crouch from Aston Villa after his loan spell, Villa wanted 2 million, we couldnt afford it, so Southampton stepped in with 2 million and the rest is history, it was a gamble that couldnt fail, players like that will always re-coup their transfer fee, Southampton had a hatful of goals out of him and 8 million profit, we once again need to show the ambition from 4-5 yrs ago and push the boat out.[/quote]It didn''t really do Southampton much good in the long run did it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted November 2, 2008 No your right it didnt do Southampton much good ,but do you not think had we been promoted with Crouch and started with him in the prem season that we wouldnt have had such a lousy start?I mean playing Docherty up front for 3 months on the back of his equalizer at Newcastle, Sound familiar ? Just like Roeder is now, Russell and Sibierski are midfielders- end of, if we had no other options then fine try one up front you never know but when Lupoli and Koroma are kicking their heels in the stand it makes no sense at all.Had we stayed up we could have built, yes had we bought Crouch, Liverpool may have come and bought him from us for 10 million but we probably would have been safe by then, in the prem for another year, more income, i know its all ifs but i really feel if we had pushed out the boat at the time, this message board might just be a happier place than it currently is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Slob 0 Posted November 2, 2008 Pivotal moment was that pr1ck andy johnson diving at the crystal palace away match, 3-1 up then went 3-2, then with not long left, the cheating scum bag does a front flip, thos 2 points we lost that day were the difference, although i suppose you could say that about anything that goes wrong "if only that had happened" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Slob 0 Posted November 2, 2008 i forgot to say that front flip was awarded as a penalty in which they converted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Dawson 0 Posted November 2, 2008 Yes Bob i agree, but had we already had Crouch i dont think losing the two points at Palace would have mattered, we would have been mid table !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lobstercatcher2 0 Posted November 2, 2008 Beating wolves 5-2 could have done more damage than you would believe.If we had lost that night our postion now would be terrible.The fans would have a real right to demand change,but as it is roeder and the board will keep harking back to "how well we can play" and we will be fobbed off for another season.How many people on this board realise we have only won 7 games in the last 28 under roeder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickey phelans tash 0 Posted November 2, 2008 [quote user="Tim Dawson"]No your right it didnt do Southampton much good ,but do you not think had we been promoted with Crouch and started with him in the prem season that we wouldnt have had such a lousy start?I mean playing Docherty up front for 3 months on the back of his equalizer at Newcastle, Sound familiar ? Just like Roeder is now, Russell and Sibierski are midfielders- end of, if we had no other options then fine try one up front you never know but when Lupoli and Koroma are kicking their heels in the stand it makes no sense at all.Had we stayed up we could have built, yes had we bought Crouch, Liverpool may have come and bought him from us for 10 million but we probably would have been safe by then, in the prem for another year, more income, i know its all ifs but i really feel if we had pushed out the boat at the time, this message board might just be a happier place than it currently is [/quote] Letting Malky and Iwan go..........Massive losses on and off the pitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites