Croft

[ncfc90 0]

Couldn''t understand why people booed him being substituted, although he played very well against Wolves, he did absolutely nothing today, and i thought Bell did alot better than him, considering he has played alot less, put in some very good crosses, and may have set lita''s goal up but not sure.

[JTG 0]

Yes, he was poor today. But I think people booed because Hoolahoop was sooo unbelievably bad today that everyone just assumed that it was he who was going to be brought off, I think even Hoolahan himself was surprised at that one. I can''t believe he remained on the pitch for so long.On a side note, Bell looks absolutely quality, what a crosser of a ball. He needs to start the next game to help us try and put that shambolic performance behind us.

[ncfc90 0]

yes hoolahan was shite today but he wasn''t alone

[mickey phelans tash 0]

[quote user="ncfc90"]Couldn''t understand why people booed him being substituted, although he played very well against Wolves, he did absolutely nothing today, and i thought Bell did alot better than him, considering he has played alot less, put in some very good crosses, and may have set lita''s goal up but not sure.[/quote]  And how has he acheived this almost cult hero status amongst some fans?

[NCFC_Shaun 0]

[quote user="JTG"]Yes, he was poor today. But I think people booed because Hoolahoop was sooo unbelievably bad today that everyone just assumed that it was he who was going to be brought off, I think even Hoolahan himself was surprised at that one. I can''t believe he remained on the pitch for so long.

On a side note, Bell looks absolutely quality, what a crosser of a ball. He needs to start the next game to help us try and put that shambolic performance behind us.
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I personally didn''t think Hoolahan was that bad, and thought he played quite well first half... I must have been watching a different player.

[The Great Wall Of Tettey 0]

it was an average performance from nearlly all the squad

croft wasnt doing anything, so why not put another winger on and try something different

bell put some good balls in, so fair play to the lad !

[JTG 0]

[quote user="NCFC_Shaun"]

[quote user="JTG"]Yes, he was poor today. But I think people booed because Hoolahoop was sooo unbelievably bad today that everyone just assumed that it was he who was going to be brought off, I think even Hoolahan himself was surprised at that one. I can''t believe he remained on the pitch for so long.On a side note, Bell looks absolutely quality, what a crosser of a ball. He needs to start the next game to help us try and put that shambolic performance behind us.[/quote]

 

I personally didn''t think Hoolahan was that bad, and thought he played quite well first half... I must have been watching a different player.

[/quote]It''s funny how we all see the same tings differently. He indeed wasn''t as bad in the first half, but not good by any stretch of the imagination. second half I think he was awful in every department. I''d still start him next home game though, we''ve seen what he can do, just got to get him doing it.

For the record, no Bell didn''t set Lita''s goal up. It was a punt by Stefanovic, nodded in to the path of Lita by Sibierski if my memory serves correct.

[Nuff Said 5,957]

Isn''t Bell more comfortable on the right? So if you''re going to put him on, unless Crofty is playing a blinder he''s going to be the one coming off.

[GJP 79]

Poor decision to take Croft off. And that''s not to say David Bell isn''t a good player to bring on. But that was the wrong decision, regardless of the result. Crofty seemed to pay the price for us not being able to play the ball into him enough.

Also thought it was wrong to take Doherty off - who had an excellent game. I expect it''ll be put down to an injury/fitness thing but if that is the case I think it''s a load of tosh. We definitely were not as convincing at the back after the Doc left the field. Hopefully it''s not a sign of where Roeder rates the Doc (behind Kennedy and Stefanovic) because he deserves to be considered a first choice.

[dylanisabaddog 6,131]

There''s only one Lee Croft.

Thank God for that

 

[Graham Humphrey 13]

I agree that it was the wrong decision to take both Croft and Doc off, Roeder does seem to make some odd changes at times though. I thought Hoolahan was lucky to last as long as he did, he tried hard but nothing seemed to go right for him today.

[InLambertWeTrust! 0]

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I personally didn''t think Hoolahan was that bad, and thought he played quite well first half... I must have been watching a different player.

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I agree. I thought Hoola looked a clever little player at parts today :)

[GJP 79]

[quote user="C T"][quote user="NCFC_Shaun"]

 

I personally didn''t think Hoolahan was that bad, and thought he played quite well first half... I must have been watching a different player.

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I agree. I thought Hoola looked a clever little player at parts today :)

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Mixed bag, wasn''t it?

Did some difficult things brilliantly and then f*cked some of the easy bits. Sometimes just needs to send it up the pitch as well and not muck around with it near our penalty box when we''re trying to clear our lines.

 

[Duffman 0]

I thought some fans showed today that they are real idiots, even some on here are starting to show the same symptons.Why bring on a right winger and take off a left winger?   If your current right winger is playing a blinder then he stays on and the other guy doesnt come on.   Croft was poor today, take away the first minute and he didnt really do anything.    Also thought he sold Wes short with that poor attempt at reaching his pass.   So Wes ends up looking poor for playing the ball out but it was Crofty who should be taking the blame there.Taking Doherty off was a simple thing to work out.   He has had no pre season, played all 90 mins on tuesday and 70 today but if you have a better CB on the bench who also needs some minutes on the pitch to recover from an injury then I just saw it as a win win situation.   They both got some time and much needed fitness.

[Steve H 0]

[quote user="ncfc90"]Couldn''t understand why people booed him being substituted, although he played very well against Wolves, he did absolutely nothing today, and i thought Bell did alot better than him, considering he has played alot less, put in some very good crosses, and may have set lita''s goal up but not sure.[/quote]

I think you''ll find the booing was for the decision to substitue Croft. Not the players involved.

I thought the general quality was poor today.

Hoolahan looked tricky and although his end product was poor, you can see what a bag of tricks he is and what he could do for us in the future, perseverance is what is required. I still can''t fathom why he comes inside so much to receive the ball though.

[GJP 79]

[quote user="Duffman"]I thought some fans showed today that they are real idiots, even some on here are starting to show the same symptons.

Why bring on a right winger and take off a left winger?   If your current right winger is playing a blinder then he stays on and the other guy doesnt come on.   Croft was poor today, take away the first minute and he didnt really do anything.    Also thought he sold Wes short with that poor attempt at reaching his pass.   So Wes ends up looking poor for playing the ball out but it was Crofty who should be taking the blame there.

Taking Doherty off was a simple thing to work out.   He has had no pre season, played all 90 mins on tuesday and 70 today but if you have a better CB on the bench who also needs some minutes on the pitch to recover from an injury then I just saw it as a win win situation.   They both got some time and much needed fitness.
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If I''m thinking of the same pass I don''t think either Wes or Croft were particularly to blame. Wes was looking for a runner in the inside channel and he didn''t get one.

Also think Doherty would have seen out 90mins no problem and given that he was having such a good game it seemed unnecessay to change it. Kennedy (who I do think is a good defender) struggled a lot more than the Doc did. All of a sudden the chap with the nice hair do started to come into the game when the Doc went off.

[Steve H 0]

[quote user="Graham Humphrey"]I agree that it was the wrong decision to take both Croft and Doc off, Roeder does seem to make some odd changes at times though. I thought Hoolahan was lucky to last as long as he did, he tried hard but nothing seemed to go right for him today.
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I Think with Doc it might well have been due to the fact that He is only back from injury and 2 full games of 90 minutes might have been too much in the space of 4 days hence bringing him off after 55-60 mins.

 

[Empty Mirror 0]

Funny how we all see things differently.

I thought Croft looked our most dangerous player. Not the form of Wednesday (but then that was true of all) but ran all day, in the first half seemed to win more balls tackling back then Clingan or Rusty, had the beating of his fullback and did put some good balls into the area (e.g., Rusty''s missed kick, but there were others too).

I think the fans booed his substitution because he looks like he cares, and is clearly trying. There again, Sibierski looked like the only thing he was trying to do was to fall over for 80 minutes, and then he scored one and made one in the last ten.

[Captain Holt 580]

Are you serious? I thought Hoolahan was excellent first half!

[Hooleyfan 0]

[quote user="C T"][quote user="NCFC_Shaun"]

 

I personally didn''t think Hoolahan was that bad, and thought he played quite well first half... I must have been watching a different player.

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I agree. I thought Hoola looked a clever little player at parts today :)

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He''s too clever at times...needs to take on that final ball himself more often...more of the matty patty spirit needed, but with the accuracy that he surely has...we hope!

[SitTee 0]

They werent booing croft, they were booing roeder for taking him off

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="kiwiNCFC"]They werent booing croft, they were booing roeder for taking him off[/quote]Which is mental, because Croft was crap today bar one moment in the first half - and wingers are supposed to have more than one moment.  Bell looks like he knows how to cross a ball... Crofty might want to think about that.

[lucky green trainers 0]

don''t forget hooley hadn''t started for 5 games, and he ran his bollards off tues nite, and again first half today, he carried a threat, but tired understandably second half...as for crofty - did his usual running, and did well 2nd minute with clear run on keeper, but pulled it back for rusty to fluff his shot...fraid, that was as good as it got...trouble is, city play to a high tempo - and its difficult to keep this style up when the games are coming up thick and fast - logically, its inevitable that we''ll have some jaded performances in these circumstances,,,

[ncfc90 0]

[quote user="Steve H"]

[quote user="ncfc90"]Couldn''t understand why people booed him being substituted, although he played very well against Wolves, he did absolutely nothing today, and i thought Bell did alot better than him, considering he has played alot less, put in some very good crosses, and may have set lita''s goal up but not sure.[/quote]

I think you''ll find the booing was for the decision to substitue Croft. Not the players involved.

I thought the general quality was poor today.

Hoolahan looked tricky and although his end product was poor, you can see what a bag of tricks he is and what he could do for us in the future, perseverance is what is required. I still can''t fathom why he comes inside so much to receive the ball though.

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Yer and i''m saying i dont know why they were booing, because croft did nothing all game, so why keep him on

[Man-E-Faces 0]

[quote user="ncfc90"]Couldn''t understand why people booed him being substituted, although he played very well against Wolves, he did absolutely nothing today, and i thought Bell did alot better than him, considering he has played alot less, put in some very good crosses, and may have set lita''s goal up but not sure.[/quote]

 

Agreed. Croft did nothing today and Bell is a much better crosser of the ball. I for one hope Roeder starts Bell ahead of Croft on Tuesday.

[Steve H 0]

[quote user="ncfc90"][quote user="Steve H"]

[quote user="ncfc90"]Couldn''t understand why people booed him being substituted, although he played very well against Wolves, he did absolutely nothing today, and i thought Bell did alot better than him, considering he has played alot less, put in some very good crosses, and may have set lita''s goal up but not sure.[/quote]

I think you''ll find the booing was for the decision to substitue Croft. Not the players involved.

I thought the general quality was poor today.

Hoolahan looked tricky and although his end product was poor, you can see what a bag of tricks he is and what he could do for us in the future, perseverance is what is required. I still can''t fathom why he comes inside so much to receive the ball though.

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Yer and i''m saying i dont know why they were booing, because croft did nothing all game, so why keep him on

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Righto fair enough.

It would have been easier to understand if you had said you couldn''t understand Roeder''s decision to substitute him.

[ncfc90 0]

wtf you going on about? i''m backing roeders decision to take him off cos he was crap today, i''m saying i dont understand why people were booing the decision to take him off as he was adding nothing to our play. Bell did alot more than croft, and was on for a shorter amount of time

[Steve H 0]

WTF are you on about??? There are school kids out there who are easier to communicate with.

[ncfc90 0]

Oh well if you don''t like it to respond to my threads

[king canary 8,749]

[quote user="Steve H"]

WTF are you on about??? There are school kids out there who are easier to communicate with.

[/quote]I think most other posteres seemed to get what he meant. Booing any change is a bit ridiculous because you never know how it will work out til the end.