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Loan stars head for Norwich on a Roeder well travelled

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Just read a really good article about NCFC on The Independent''s website. Says a lot of the same kinds of things that are said on here too:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/outside-the-box-loan-stars-head-for-norwich-on-a-roeder-well-travelled-958683.html

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Taken from the Independent.

Outside the Box: Loan stars head for Norwich on a Roeder well travelled

By Steve Tongue

Sunday, 12 October 2008

''I love loan players, for those that don''t, bad luck,'' says Norwich''s Glenn Roeder

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''I love loan players, for those that don''t, bad luck,'' says Norwich''s Glenn Roeder

If

loans were suddenly called in, no club would suffer more than Norwich

City; not financially, but because they would be hard-pushed to field a

team. The Canaries currently have no fewer than eight players on loan,

even though a maximum of five can be used in any match-day squad of 16.

Football League regulations allow eight "standard" loans in one season,

of whom four must be aged under 23, plus "emergency" loans of between

one and three months. There is, however, a loophole by which players

from outside the League do not count, so Norwich additionally have John

Kennedy from Celtic and Arturo Lupoli – or Loopholi – from Fiorentina.

Their manager, Glenn Roeder – "I love loan players, for those that

don''t, bad luck" – may have been inspired by last season''s loan

champions, Stoke City, who gained automatic promotion while using 33

players all told, many of them belonging to other clubs. Ironically, it

was Stoke who complained when Sheffield Wednesday broke the rules by

naming six loanees for the 1-1 draw against them last March, one of

whom scored. As two of the players were unused substitutes, Wednesday

escaped with a small fine, just as Leeds had done in a similar incident

a year earlier.

Cesc''s U-turn is not so Fab

Et

tu, Cesc? "I don''t even want to think about leaving Arsenal," Fabregas

said on 21 August in an interview at a London cancer ward that had

hardened hacks drooling over what a nice young man he was. By last

weekend, talking to a Spanish radio station, this had become: "Right

now I''m fine at Arsenal but I cannot deny that to return and play for

Barcelona would be a dream come true." Next week, Theo Walcott says:

"It''s all about looking after No 1 in this game and I would love to

play for Manchester United one day."

Who''s next at City as media head for the Tardis?

Thaksin

Shinawatra may be gone from Manchester City, having made a tidy profit,

but the fallout from his ill-conceived regime continues. The club''s

head of communications, Paul Tyrell, is the latest departure, after

several months of gardening leave. With long-serving vice-chairman John

Wardle and chief executive Alistair Mackintosh long gone, survivors

from the pre-Thai era are few, and those who opposed the sacking of

Sven Goran Eriksson last summer even fewer. Meanwhile, Mark Hughes''

desire to make the Carrington training ground a much more private place

has resulted in the media being relocated to a new edifice known

variously as "The Tardis" or "The Pod", situated far away from any

footballers.

Kray-zy days for Kinnear

With Tony

Jimenez (vice-president, player recruitment) having left Newcastle

United and no sign of a new owner, let alone manager, Joe Kinnear could

yet find himself involved in transfer business come the winter window.

What sort of player might he go for? The journalist Hunter Davies, who

first met Kinnear almost 40 years ago and helped write his

autobiography, recalled in the ''New Statesman'' how as a rookie manager

at Wimbledon Kinnear was asked if he had any players in mind as the

tough midfielders required. "Reg and Ronnie Kray, they''d do for me,"

was the reply. To his surprise, he received a nice letter from Ronnie,

who like his twin brother was being detained at Her Majesty''s pleasure,

offering to play on Saturdays if his release could be secured, and

wishing him all the best. Kinnear signed Vinnie Jones instead.

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Bertrand never cost anywhere near a million Waghorn has either got his figures wrong or someone is cooking the books.............could we afford this even if we wanted No!

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As I''ve said before, the League should change the rules over loan signings. Roeder, and therefore NCFC think they are benefitting with this system, but in reality this is not the case. The league doesn''t lie.

I echo sentiments of a previous poster who mentions the fact that we used to buy players from lower leagues on a consistant basis and build them up and then sell them on. We bought a few duffers, but on the whole did well.

All this has largely gone and in a few years time who is going to remember the side of 2008/9?. I have little affinity with this current Norwich team and I know I am not the only one.

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[quote user="komakino"]As I''ve said before, the League should change the rules over loan signings. Roeder, and therefore NCFC think they are benefitting with this system, but in reality this is not the case. The league doesn''t lie. I echo sentiments of a previous poster who mentions the fact that we used to buy players from lower leagues on a consistant basis and build them up and then sell them on. We bought a few duffers, but on the whole did well. All this has largely gone and in a few years time who is going to remember the side of 2008/9?. I have little affinity with this current Norwich team and I know I am not the only one.[/quote]

you make a good point.. how would you change the system if you were in charge?

would something like 4 loans a season (1 goalkeeper, 1 defender, 1 midfielder and 1 striker) improve things do you think?

jas :)

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I''d be happy with that. This would also benefit fringe players who would actually get a game instead of being sidelined, especially when the club abandons its reserve side...

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Waghorn didn''t say that Bertrand cost 1million. It was Mick Dennis (on Waghorn''s site) who suggested that up until now it has cost us the best part of a million for him (that includes last season too).

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[quote user="Mark Smith"]Waghorn didn''t say that Bertrand cost 1million. It was Mick Dennis (on Waghorn''s site) who suggested that up until now it has cost us the best part of a million for him (that includes last season too).[/quote]

Well that wouldnt be as much of a surprise when you take into consideration wages, loan fees, agents fees and he has been with us for well over a season by now.  Also a ''best part'' of a million could mean quite a bit under a million in Dennis'' language.  Anything to make out that Queen Delia has laid out more money than she really has.

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