too many excuses

[singing canary 0]

im gutted yet another poor display... im the first to admit ive given roeder a hard time.

we cant score goals at all what so ever,

i think a quarter into the season is long enough to see that it just isnt going to be our season.

for all you who still think roeder is god ..are you starting to change your mind now,

hes record isnt any better than grants

yes roeder saved us last season by 3 points but the blame must be on the board bringing in a manager with no experience previous to him.

delia ... get back to your kitchen dutie, sell up and cut your losses.

its up to us lot to do something about this , unless you want to see us lose almost every week.

roeder is not to blame??- my guess it is, loan players have no loyalty also thier parent clubs dont want them in thier team doesnt say alot does it..

roeder blames everyone else apart from himself..you picked the players roeder and they quite simply arnt good enough..

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="singing canary"]

im gutted yet another poor display... im the first to admit ive given roeder a hard time.

we cant score goals at all what so ever,

i think a quarter into the season is long enough to see that it just isnt going to be our season.

for all you who still think roeder is god ..are you starting to change your mind now,

hes record isnt any better than grants

yes roeder saved us last season by 3 points but the blame must be on the board bringing in a manager with no experience previous to him.

delia ... get back to your kitchen dutie, sell up and cut your losses.

its up to us lot to do something about this , unless you want to see us lose almost every week.

roeder is not to blame??- my guess it is, loan players have no loyalty also thier parent clubs dont want them in thier team doesnt say alot does it..

roeder blames everyone else apart from himself..you picked the players roeder and they quite simply arnt good enough..

[/quote]

Excuses no! what are you talking about again a post based on your assumptions and opinions. did you go today''s game?

 

[singing canary 0]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="singing canary"]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[/quote]

were you there? you pointing the finger a roeder, what if he was given funds? didn''t have to relay on loanees half who don''t really care?

Your posts are rather pointless and yet again have nothing constructive to say! your just moaning, would you have posted if we had won, i reckon not because your just a f**king typical poster loves to moan and stir sh*t.

[Hardhouse44 289]

[quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

im gutted yet another poor display... im the first to admit ive given roeder a hard time.

we cant score goals at all what so ever,

i think a quarter into the season is long enough to see that it just isnt going to be our season.

for all you who still think roeder is god ..are you starting to change your mind now,

hes record isnt any better than grants

yes roeder saved us last season by 3 points but the blame must be on the board bringing in a manager with no experience previous to him.

delia ... get back to your kitchen dutie, sell up and cut your losses.

its up to us lot to do something about this , unless you want to see us lose almost every week.

roeder is not to blame??- my guess it is, loan players have no loyalty also thier parent clubs dont want them in thier team doesnt say alot does it..

roeder blames everyone else apart from himself..you picked the players roeder and they quite simply arnt good enough..

[/quote]

Excuses no! what are you talking about again a post based on your assumptions and opinions. did you go today''s game?

 

[/quote]He could be basing his post on the result. That is after all the only FACT. Everything else is opinions. I gather you went and were happy. I just spoke to a friend who''s on his way home. He was less than impressed. The table says we''re crap as it has for 3 consecutive seasons.

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="Hardhouse44"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

im gutted yet another poor display... im the first to admit ive given roeder a hard time.

we cant score goals at all what so ever,

i think a quarter into the season is long enough to see that it just isnt going to be our season.

for all you who still think roeder is god ..are you starting to change your mind now,

hes record isnt any better than grants

yes roeder saved us last season by 3 points but the blame must be on the board bringing in a manager with no experience previous to him.

delia ... get back to your kitchen dutie, sell up and cut your losses.

its up to us lot to do something about this , unless you want to see us lose almost every week.

roeder is not to blame??- my guess it is, loan players have no loyalty also thier parent clubs dont want them in thier team doesnt say alot does it..

roeder blames everyone else apart from himself..you picked the players roeder and they quite simply arnt good enough..

[/quote]

Excuses no! what are you talking about again a post based on your assumptions and opinions. did you go today''s game?

 

[/quote]He could be basing his post on the result. That is after all the only FACT. Everything else is opinions. I gather you went and were happy. I just spoke to a friend who''s on his way home. He was less than impressed.

The table says we''re crap as it has for 3 consecutive seasons.


[/quote]

Not at all read my thread on todays game fella. Pro''s and Con''s but fed up of this roeder out crap!

[singing canary 0]

no i would have said well done if they won but they didnt.

played 11 won 2.. how bad do you want it to get before you realise we are not doing very well.

not assumptions mate im thinking exactly the same as many , i want to see my team score goals and win.

but fact ,fact and more fact...... we lost again and again never scored in the first half (and the second). thats pretty much quarter of the season without scoring in the first half.

my posts relate to how it is, not sh** ...

did you go to the game ?.. or is there another norwich city playing somewhere...

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[/quote]

were you there? you pointing the finger a roeder, what if he was given funds? didn''t have to relay on loanees half who don''t really care?

Your posts are rather pointless and yet again have nothing constructive to say! your just moaning, would you have posted if we had won, i reckon not because your just a f**king typical poster loves to moan and stir sh*t.

[/quote]What''ll it take to wake you and your kind up HH, relegation and administration?[:S]

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[/quote]

were you there? you pointing the finger a roeder, what if he was given funds? didn''t have to relay on loanees half who don''t really care?

Your posts are rather pointless and yet again have nothing constructive to say! your just moaning, would you have posted if we had won, i reckon not because your just a f**king typical poster loves to moan and stir sh*t.

[/quote]What''ll it take to wake you and your kind up HH, relegation and administration?[:S][/quote]

No not at all but most on here like you are clueless, sack roeder but who''s going to replace him? can we afford to terminate his contract? It''s easy for muppets to say sack roeder without backing it up! and as i remember when grant left we didn''t have many managers begging for the position now did we?

I''m all for change if its going to be positive, but its not we will still have no many we will still have the same unmotivated players.

wake up yourself

 

[singing canary 0]

i cant get my head round it ... i wished honestly we were fantastic i wouldnt be posting anything but praise,

i hope things change, i really do but i cant..see it

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="singing canary"]

no i would have said well done if they won but they didnt.

played 11 won 2.. how bad do you want it to get before you realise we are not doing very well.

not assumptions mate im thinking exactly the same as many , i want to see my team score goals and win.

but fact ,fact and more fact...... we lost again and again never scored in the first half (and the second). thats pretty much quarter of the season without scoring in the first half.

my posts relate to how it is, not sh** ...

did you go to the game ?.. or is there another norwich city playing somewhere...

[/quote]

I went to the game yes! take a look at my thread about todays game. you still have no answers tho do you, immediate reaction is roeder out but what will follow a long line of managers keen to replace him not a chance there!

Yes fact is we lost but fact is also we are broke, fact is again the issue that even if someone replaces roeder they will have no funds and will be stuck with the same team. It''s easy to hide behind a keyboard and talk shite.

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="singing canary"]

i cant get my head round it ... i wished honestly we were fantastic i wouldnt be posting anything but praise,

i hope things change, i really do but i cant..see it

[/quote]

What can''t you get your head around? not being able to answer the points i''ve raised as all you can do is refer to facts?

And again did you go to the game? if so what were your thoughts?

[singing canary 0]

have heart serious question mate... im trying to be civil here points you have are agreed .

yes it would cost money to get rid of roeder. we are stuck really but..

if someone like cullum came in and bought norwich ..what would you like to see..

1.. roeder kept on with plenty of cash..

2... another manager proven ... and had a good track record.

 

[Hardhouse44 289]

[quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="Hardhouse44"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

im gutted yet another poor display... im the first to admit ive given roeder a hard time.

we cant score goals at all what so ever,

i think a quarter into the season is long enough to see that it just isnt going to be our season.

for all you who still think roeder is god ..are you starting to change your mind now,

hes record isnt any better than grants

yes roeder saved us last season by 3 points but the blame must be on the board bringing in a manager with no experience previous to him.

delia ... get back to your kitchen dutie, sell up and cut your losses.

its up to us lot to do something about this , unless you want to see us lose almost every week.

roeder is not to blame??- my guess it is, loan players have no loyalty also thier parent clubs dont want them in thier team doesnt say alot does it..

roeder blames everyone else apart from himself..you picked the players roeder and they quite simply arnt good enough..

[/quote]

Excuses no! what are you talking about again a post based on your assumptions and opinions. did you go today''s game?

 

[/quote]He could be basing his post on the result. That is after all the only FACT. Everything else is opinions. I gather you went and were happy. I just spoke to a friend who''s on his way home. He was less than impressed. The table says we''re crap as it has for 3 consecutive seasons.

[/quote]

Not at all read my thread on todays game fella. Pro''s and Con''s but fed up of this roeder out crap!

[/quote]Regardless, you questioned his opinions because he didn''t attend today’s game. The fact is we lost again. Your Roeder admiration is very noble but you can''t argue that his selection and substitution decisions are very questionable. Whether or not he has had adequate fund or not. (I''m sure we all think not) he makes decisions with the resources we do have that many think are not in the teams best interests. Again results would seem to back that up.I don''t see the removal of Roeder as the long term answer to our problems. It might even for a time add to them but let not kid ourselves he''s no tactical genius, nor does he have outstanding references. His part in all this will end eventually as will Delia''s.New brooms usually sweep clean.

[singing canary 0]

i would talk to anyone mate.. as ive said before.

to be honest no i didnt go today i heard it on the radio ..

before you unleash a attack saying you didnt go to the game how can you pass judgement.

i heard it ..and my mate went and i trust his judgement.

hes been going since 1983.. i go home games and away when i get the chance , i was going to go but my little girl was not well .

i have been going to games since i was 6 and a loyal fan.. players manager come and go ,i dont rate this one .

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[/quote]

were you there? you pointing the finger a roeder, what if he was given funds? didn''t have to relay on loanees half who don''t really care?

Your posts are rather pointless and yet again have nothing constructive to say! your just moaning, would you have posted if we had won, i reckon not because your just a f**king typical poster loves to moan and stir sh*t.

[/quote]What''ll it take to wake you and your kind up HH, relegation and administration?[:S][/quote]

No not at all but most on here like you are clueless, sack roeder but who''s going to replace him? can we afford to terminate his contract? It''s easy for muppets to say sack roeder without backing it up! and as i remember when grant left we didn''t have many managers begging for the position now did we?

I''m all for change if its going to be positive, but its not we will still have no many we will still have the same unmotivated players.

wake up yourself

 

[/quote]Is that all you have left now, insults? Jeez!

And according to the club, we had many high profile names for the managers job, are the club lying now HH? you can''t have it both ways!

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="singing canary"]

have heart serious question mate... im trying to be civil here points you have are agreed .

yes it would cost money to get rid of roeder. we are stuck really but..

if someone like cullum came in and bought norwich ..what would you like to see..

1.. roeder kept on with plenty of cash..

2... another manager proven ... and had a good track record.

 

[/quote]

But thats a IF do you understand what you have said? Whether roeder is kept on or not we will still have to cover his contract? And please name the other manager with a proven track record that would come to norwich?

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[/quote]

were you there? you pointing the finger a roeder, what if he was given funds? didn''t have to relay on loanees half who don''t really care?

Your posts are rather pointless and yet again have nothing constructive to say! your just moaning, would you have posted if we had won, i reckon not because your just a f**king typical poster loves to moan and stir sh*t.

[/quote]What''ll it take to wake you and your kind up HH, relegation and administration?[:S][/quote]

No not at all but most on here like you are clueless, sack roeder but who''s going to replace him? can we afford to terminate his contract? It''s easy for muppets to say sack roeder without backing it up! and as i remember when grant left we didn''t have many managers begging for the position now did we?

I''m all for change if its going to be positive, but its not we will still have no many we will still have the same unmotivated players.

wake up yourself

 

[/quote]Is that all you have left now, insults? Jeez!

And according to the club, we had many high profile names for the managers job, are the club lying now HH? you can''t have it both ways!

[/quote]

I''ve never said the club didn''t lie! if we had so many high profile managers then we must of been kept in the dark to who they were now.  And what you talking about insults Wiz?

[Karl Pilkington 0]

I think it''s a tricky situation Roeder is in. Have we improved under him?? I think in respect of performances there can be no doubt we have, it''s been much better than under Grant.

In terms of results, which is the most important, we haven''t. Too often in previous seasons we would go away from home and lose 4-0 now we only lose 1-0. So it''s a step in the right direction but not far enough. He has the defence sorted, Kennedy & Dejan have been brilliant signings, we are conceding much less.

The problem is we still can''t score, and goals win matches. Short term loans are never going to be the solution, Lita is here to help Leeroy, he wont go that extra yard for City, and who in his position could blame him, he can''t risk injury. We need a replacement for Dion. A permanent signed striker who will fight for the city cause.

I think Roeders hands are tied. Without funds to spend he will never get the striker we so desperately need.

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="Hardhouse44"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="Hardhouse44"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

im gutted yet another poor display... im the first to admit ive given roeder a hard time.

we cant score goals at all what so ever,

i think a quarter into the season is long enough to see that it just isnt going to be our season.

for all you who still think roeder is god ..are you starting to change your mind now,

hes record isnt any better than grants

yes roeder saved us last season by 3 points but the blame must be on the board bringing in a manager with no experience previous to him.

delia ... get back to your kitchen dutie, sell up and cut your losses.

its up to us lot to do something about this , unless you want to see us lose almost every week.

roeder is not to blame??- my guess it is, loan players have no loyalty also thier parent clubs dont want them in thier team doesnt say alot does it..

roeder blames everyone else apart from himself..you picked the players roeder and they quite simply arnt good enough..

[/quote]

Excuses no! what are you talking about again a post based on your assumptions and opinions. did you go today''s game?

 

[/quote]He could be basing his post on the result. That is after all the only FACT. Everything else is opinions. I gather you went and were happy. I just spoke to a friend who''s on his way home. He was less than impressed.

The table says we''re crap as it has for 3 consecutive seasons.


[/quote]

Not at all read my thread on todays game fella. Pro''s and Con''s but fed up of this roeder out crap!

[/quote]Regardless, you questioned his opinions because he didn''t attend today’s game. The fact is we lost again. Your Roeder admiration is very noble but you can''t argue that his selection and substitution decisions are very questionable. Whether or not he has had adequate fund or not. (I''m sure we all think not) he makes decisions with the resources we do have that many think are not in the teams best interests. Again results would seem to back that up.

I don''t see the removal of Roeder as the long term answer to our problems. It might even for a time add to them but let not kid ourselves he''s no tactical genius, nor does he have outstanding references. His part in all this will end eventually as will Delia''s.

New brooms usually sweep clean.


[/quote]

If knowing roeder going would lead to improvement then i wouldn''t stand in the way so to speak but i can''t see any improvement.

[xxxx 0]

You go on about oeders lack of funds but just how much money has he wasted on loans that dont hardly get a kick or transfer fees for the likes of Hoolahan who cannot even get on the bench ? precious money wasted by a very sub standard manager . As for putting Fozzy on today when Sibierski went off when he had Lupoli on the bench , joke decision and you didnt have to be at the game to know it  .

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="Dictator Smith"]You go on about oeders lack of funds but just how much money has he wasted on loans that dont hardly get a kick or transfer fees for the likes of Hoolahan who cannot even get on the bench ? precious money wasted by a very sub standard manager . As for putting Fozzy on today when Sibierski went off when he had Lupoli on the bench , joke decision and you didnt have to be at the game to know it  .
[/quote]

I''m also going on about if roeder goes who comes in? I would love to see a change in fortune at the club if thats by delia selling up, a better manager coming in whatever but realistically wheres the change going to come from. You can stand outside carrow road shouting delia out, or in the stands shouting roeder out but if theres no better replacement then whats it going to achieve sod all is the answer. Fozzy looked ok today, i would have loved to see lupoli come on because he i believe could have made the difference.

Write what i say off like most posters do on here when sense is being said, or when many haven''t got the answers to back up the the roeder out shouts. Please if you can tell me how things would improve go for it?

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="Karl Pilkington"]I think it''s a tricky situation Roeder is in. Have we improved under him?? I think in respect of performances there can be no doubt we have, it''s been much better than under Grant. In terms of results, which is the most important, we haven''t. Too often in previous seasons we would go away from home and lose 4-0 now we only lose 1-0. So it''s a step in the right direction but not far enough. He has the defence sorted, Kennedy & Dejan have been brilliant signings, we are conceding much less. The problem is we still can''t score, and goals win matches. Short term loans are never going to be the solution, Lita is here to help Leeroy, he wont go that extra yard for City, and who in his position could blame him, he can''t risk injury. We need a replacement for Dion. A permanent signed striker who will fight for the city cause. I think Roeders hands are tied. Without funds to spend he will never get the striker we so desperately need.[/quote]

finally someone whos posted something constructive when most are making outlandish statements with no logic behind them.

But to get to where we need to be something has to change i would rather see it with delia selling up than replacing roeder at this time.

[alex_ncfc 686]

[quote user="Have Heart"]

[quote user="Karl Pilkington"]I think it''s a tricky situation Roeder is in. Have we improved under him?? I think in respect of performances there can be no doubt we have, it''s been much better than under Grant. In terms of results, which is the most important, we haven''t. Too often in previous seasons we would go away from home and lose 4-0 now we only lose 1-0. So it''s a step in the right direction but not far enough. He has the defence sorted, Kennedy & Dejan have been brilliant signings, we are conceding much less. The problem is we still can''t score, and goals win matches. Short term loans are never going to be the solution, Lita is here to help Leeroy, he wont go that extra yard for City, and who in his position could blame him, he can''t risk injury. We need a replacement for Dion. A permanent signed striker who will fight for the city cause. I think Roeders hands are tied. Without funds to spend he will never get the striker we so desperately need.[/quote]

finally someone whos posted something constructive when most are making outlandish statements with no logic behind them.

But to get to where we need to be something has to change i would rather see it with delia selling up than replacing roeder at this time.

[/quote]

Could someone tell me how many times we were hammered 4-0 under Grant? I remember 5-0 vs Stoke soon after he joined, but as far as I can see most of the defeats in his time here last season were 1-0s. Hardly an improvement after all is it.

[Barclay_Boy 0]

[quote user="Karl Pilkington"]I think it''s a tricky situation Roeder is in. Have we improved under him?? I think in respect of performances there can be no doubt we have, it''s been much better than under Grant. In terms of results, which is the most important, we haven''t. Too often in previous seasons we would go away from home and lose 4-0 now we only lose 1-0. So it''s a step in the right direction but not far enough. He has the defence sorted, Kennedy & Dejan have been brilliant signings, we are conceding much less. The problem is we still can''t score, and goals win matches. Short term loans are never going to be the solution, Lita is here to help Leeroy, he wont go that extra yard for City, and who in his position could blame him, he can''t risk injury. We need a replacement for Dion. A permanent signed striker who will fight for the city cause. I think Roeders hands are tied. Without funds to spend he will never get the striker we so desperately need.[/quote]

Sensible post, fans should not get deflected from the real reason that we are in this situation. We had a promise of 5 million for players around about this time last year, to be followed by a further 15 million during the close season. Would we be in this situation if we had recevied that amount to spend on the team? No. Is it Roeders fault that he has been forced to try and replace a team with no money? No. You can draw a direct line back from where we find ourselves tonight to last October, and Peter Cullum being sent away with a flea in his ear. The full realisation of how disasterous that decision was for all of us should now be dawning loud and clear, because in the current financial climate I doubt whether he will be back. We are in the s**t due to the actions of the NCFC Board, it''s not Roeder''s fault.

[. 0]

[quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[/quote]

were you there? you pointing the finger a roeder, what if he was given funds? didn''t have to relay on loanees half who don''t really care?

Your posts are rather pointless and yet again have nothing constructive to say! your just moaning, would you have posted if we had won, i reckon not because your just a f**king typical poster loves to moan and stir sh*t.

[/quote]

I wasn''t in World War Two but I still know Hitler was a tw*t....and he lost too.

Get real sunshine and study the scoresheet and league tables.........

Knob.

[singing canary 0]

i agree ..have heart roeders contract would have to paid up which wouldnt be cheap..

 who would i like to see paul jewell ..and if norwich had lots of cash i would like david moyes (but that would never happen)

[Have Heart 0]

[quote user="Neil Cluckcaster"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[/quote]

were you there? you pointing the finger a roeder, what if he was given funds? didn''t have to relay on loanees half who don''t really care?

Your posts are rather pointless and yet again have nothing constructive to say! your just moaning, would you have posted if we had won, i reckon not because your just a f**king typical poster loves to moan and stir sh*t.

[/quote]

I wasn''t in World War Two but I still know Hitler was a tw*t....and he lost too.

Get real sunshine and study the scoresheet and league tables.........

Knob.

[/quote]

Sorry sunshine, what you trying to say? are you trying to be smart by comparing world war two to norwich city? now thats the funniest thing i''ve read in a long time.

So are my posts saying anything different to the league table and scoresheets? no. What i''m trying to get across is the idea that if people want Roeder out what''s going to happen after he''s left? who will replace him and why would anyone want to come to norwich city? the concerning issue is no one can answer that, Its to easy to shout about getting rid of Roeder without actually thinking about the bigger picture.

So before trying to be tough behind a keyboard and calling me a knob stop to read and digest my posts you f**king clown!

[. 0]

[quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="Neil Cluckcaster"][quote user="Have Heart"][quote user="singing canary"]

another lose mate no goals,and some more fans not happy...

is that a assumption  or did we lose again.. or was i dreaming .

 

[/quote]

were you there? you pointing the finger a roeder, what if he was given funds? didn''t have to relay on loanees half who don''t really care?

Your posts are rather pointless and yet again have nothing constructive to say! your just moaning, would you have posted if we had won, i reckon not because your just a f**king typical poster loves to moan and stir sh*t.

[/quote]

I wasn''t in World War Two but I still know Hitler was a tw*t....and he lost too.

Get real sunshine and study the scoresheet and league tables.........

Knob.

[/quote]

Sorry sunshine, what you trying to say? are you trying to be smart by comparing world war two to norwich city? now thats the funniest thing i''ve read in a long time.

So are my posts saying anything different to the league table and scoresheets? no. What i''m trying to get across is the idea that if people want Roeder out what''s going to happen after he''s left? who will replace him and why would anyone want to come to norwich city? the concerning issue is no one can answer that, Its to easy to shout about getting rid of Roeder without actually thinking about the bigger picture.

So before trying to be tough behind a keyboard and calling me a knob stop to read and digest my posts you f**king clown!

[/quote]

Knob with bells on...twice. Thanking you sincerely for your kind personal reference. I am duly heartened.

It''s your classic fear of the unknown that stops any progress being made....and it is this same fear factor that has dragged the club down to the gutter under the pitiful guidance of Smith and her cronies. Once the "saviour" label got attached the limp majority of modern "spectators" could see no other way than with her leading them. She''s hired a string of inept managers, of which Roeder is the latest. If you can''t see that you ain''t too bright.

[Yellowbeagle 0]

We are stuck with Roeder whether we like it or not, if substantial investment should come into the club then a change probably be made, it''s no co-incidence that the past successes at our club have come from young managers on their way up with something to prove. Worthington had experience at Blackpool, O''Neill had it from Wycombe, Walker had it from Colchester and our reserves (when there actually was a proper reserves league).

No investment and I cant see how we can get rid of Roeder without trying to make him resign and this may well end up with the team being damaged and doomed to relegation by the negative atmosphere, so for the time being all I see we can do is try and get really behind the team and turn it around ourselves at home matches, while hoping for the investment that we all want to materialise and changes can then be made.