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As a protest that is beautifully simple Smudger.

So shareholders do you have the bottle?

 

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I don''t think thats a bad idea tbh, still think it would be good if the ncisa members/shareholders and posters on here who want to speak all sat together so that we got heard and didn''t feel isolated.

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Do you include yourself in this "we" context because i do not recall you speaking up at the NCISA AGM when you had an opportunity to quiz Neil Doncaster.

Also neither Kathy or myself have received an E-mail from you regarding the NCISA stance with regard to the current situation and the forthcoming NCFC AGM.We have received loads of E-Mails from posters and members on this subject.

Babe do not get me wrong but there is a expression about talking the talk but not walking the walk.Your preference for telling people on this messageboard what to do and how to do it when not doing too much yourself even when the opportunity is staring you in the face to practise what you breach is beginning to annoy me.

Please do not cop the hump CA as i do not want to bracket you as a keyboard warrior.

 

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Do you include yourself in this "we" context because i do not recall you speaking up at the NCISA AGM when you had an opportunity to quiz Neil Doncaster.

Also neither Kathy or myself have received an E-mail from you regarding the NCISA stance with regard to the current situation and the forthcoming NCFC AGM.We have received loads of E-Mails from posters and members on this subject.

Babe do not get me wrong but there is a expression about talking the talk but not walking the walk.Your preference for telling people on this messageboard what to do and how to do it when not doing too much yourself even when the opportunity is staring you in the face to practise what you breach is beginning to annoy me.

Please do not cop the hump CA as i do not want to bracket you as a keyboard warrior.

 

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My question I had prepared was asked by others before I got the chance and if you''ve been to previous forums you''ll know that I''m not to shy to ask questions, the forum at Sheringham with Delia, being a good example.

As for emailing you with my thoughts on the current situation they were clearly expressed in a thread replying to Smudger on here a few weeks ago and you have since said that your committee has decided to do nothing until after the AGM so what is there left to say.

How can suggesting that we all sit together be construed as telling people what to do Mr Tilson, its just a suggestion.

P.S. Can you drop the ''babe'' buisness its really irritating!

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[quote user="cityangel"][quote user="TIL 1010"]

Do you include yourself in this "we" context because i do not recall you speaking up at the NCISA AGM when you had an opportunity to quiz Neil Doncaster.

Also neither Kathy or myself have received an E-mail from you regarding the NCISA stance with regard to the current situation and the forthcoming NCFC AGM.We have received loads of E-Mails from posters and members on this subject.

Babe do not get me wrong but there is a expression about talking the talk but not walking the walk.Your preference for telling people on this messageboard what to do and how to do it when not doing too much yourself even when the opportunity is staring you in the face to practise what you breach is beginning to annoy me.

Please do not cop the hump CA as i do not want to bracket you as a keyboard warrior.

 

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My question I had prepared was asked by others before I got the chance and if you''ve been to previous forums you''ll know that I''m not to shy to ask questions, the forum at Sheringham with Delia, being a good example.

As for emailing you with my thoughts on the current situation they were clearly expressed in a thread replying to Smudger on here a few weeks ago and you have since said that your committee has decided to do nothing until after the AGM so what is there left to say.

How can suggesting that we all sit together be construed as telling people what to do Mr Tilson, its just a suggestion.

P.S. Can you drop the ''babe'' buisness its really irritating!

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For a former police officer it''s going to be terribly, terribly difficult for him to drop the "babe" business.

Trust me on this.

 

Evenin'' all.[8-|]

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Please tell us more Cam, why does he call all us females ''babe''[:D]

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[quote user="cityangel"]Please tell us more Cam, why does he call all us females ''babe''[:D][/quote]

Ermmmm[:#]

Okay you want the truth?  Because he is a former member of an organisation which in terms of sexism and racism then, and now, leaves everyone else in the dust.

"F**k me there''s a a black bloke driving a Merc.  Come on, let''s have him."  On go the lights.

"Okay, you are Chairman of the Race Relations Board.  Just a routine stop.  Goodnight, Sir."

Not quite Blues N Two''s on the telly but it is in real life.

"Slow driving," says the Traffic man . "Might be pissed."

His Observer agrees: "******* good looker too. That''s a bonus."

That''s agreed then.

Evenin'' all[:|]

 

 

 

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There are 3 strategies that could be adopted at the AGM:

1. Making silly childish gestures

2. Making lurid speculative allegations which completely ignore the main new story in the real world for the last year

3. Asking intelligent considered probing questions.

None of these strategies will change the reality of the seismic changes in football economics which the likes of the chairman of Bolton, Wigan, Reading, Crystal Palace and the independent report from Deloitte have commented on. However, strategies 1 and 2 merely demonstrate a small IQ while at least with 3 you may gain some additional insight and some respect.

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Mr Tilson

Bullying your paid up NCISA members won''t get you anywhere I am afraid. What CA has done to annoy you I suspect only you know. As for her not speaking up against the board, as she has said she asked Delia a question at a club forum. She has asked many at the annual NCISA events. I too have questioned Munby at a forum in the past.

I have also asked NCISA if a statement can be read out regarding the current situation at the club regarding possible takeover and our league position. I have yet to receive a reply about this.

Like CA I haven''t emailed NCISA - I think on this messageboard (and the official site where Face appears regularly) our feelings about certain aspects of the club are well documented. Your post on this thread confirms that you have received some replies, so why have a go at her?

I am however prepared to send you or Kathy an email if that would help matters. Could you confirm that you will be collating all NCISA member responses and giving the board some feedback at the AGM as to their opinions?

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[quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="cityangel"][quote user="face"]

As a protest that is beautifully simple Smudger.

So shareholders do you have the bottle?

 

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I don''t think thats a bad idea tbh, still think it would be good if the ncisa members/shareholders and posters on here who want to speak all sat together so that we got heard and didn''t feel isolated.

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Do you include yourself in this "we" context because i do not recall you speaking up at the NCISA AGM when you had an opportunity to quiz Neil Doncaster.

Also neither Kathy or myself have received an E-mail from you regarding the NCISA stance with regard to the current situation and the forthcoming NCFC AGM.We have received loads of E-Mails from posters and members on this subject.

Babe do not get me wrong but there is a expression about talking the talk but not walking the walk.Your preference for telling people on this messageboard what to do and how to do it when not doing too much yourself even when the opportunity is staring you in the face to practise what you breach is beginning to annoy me.

Please do not cop the hump CA as i do not want to bracket you as a keyboard warrior.

 

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John, is it NCISA''s policy to relpy, or at least acknowledge, emails relating to this matter?

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[quote user="cityangel"]Please tell us more Cam, why does he call all us females ''babe''[:D][/quote]

Ermmmm[:#]

Okay you want the truth?  Because he is a former member of an organisation which in terms of sexism and racism then, and now, leaves everyone else in the dust.

"F**k me there''s a a black bloke driving a Merc.  Come on, let''s have him."  On go the lights.

"Okay, you are Chairman of the Race Relations Board.  Just a routine stop.  Goodnight, Sir."

Not quite Blues N Two''s on the telly but it is in real life.

"Slow driving," says the Traffic man . "Might be pissed."

His Observer agrees: "******* good looker too. That''s a bonus."

That''s agreed then.

Evenin'' all[:|]

 

 

 

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I have to take you to task with this Cam, in fact you have really rather annoyed me, my husband was a policeman, a good policeman who retired after 31 years service.  He has never once been racist, sexist or any other ''ist'' you care to think of.

So my adfice to you is don''t tar them all with the same brush.

Those racist, and sexist people might save your life one day.  [:@]

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[quote user="cityangel"]Please tell us more Cam, why does he call all us females ''babe''[:D][/quote]

Ermmmm[:#]

Okay you want the truth?  Because he is a former member of an organisation which in terms of sexism and racism then, and now, leaves everyone else in the dust.

"F**k me there''s a a black bloke driving a Merc.  Come on, let''s have him."  On go the lights.

"Okay, you are Chairman of the Race Relations Board.  Just a routine stop.  Goodnight, Sir."

Not quite Blues N Two''s on the telly but it is in real life.

"Slow driving," says the Traffic man . "Might be pissed."

His Observer agrees: "******* good looker too. That''s a bonus."

That''s agreed then.

Evenin'' all[:|]

 

 

 

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I have to take you to task with this Cam, in fact you have really rather annoyed me, my husband was a policeman, a good policeman who retired after 31 years service.  He has never once been racist, sexist or any other ''ist'' you care to think of.

So my adfice to you is don''t tar them all with the same brush.

Those racist, and sexist people might save your life one day.  [:@]

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We must all speak as we find.  I''ve spent 50 years dealing with them and still am.

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[quote user="Camuldonum"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="Camuldonum"]

[quote user="cityangel"]Please tell us more Cam, why does he call all us females ''babe''[:D][/quote]

Ermmmm[:#]

Okay you want the truth?  Because he is a former member of an organisation which in terms of sexism and racism then, and now, leaves everyone else in the dust.

"F**k me there''s a a black bloke driving a Merc.  Come on, let''s have him."  On go the lights.

"Okay, you are Chairman of the Race Relations Board.  Just a routine stop.  Goodnight, Sir."

Not quite Blues N Two''s on the telly but it is in real life.

"Slow driving," says the Traffic man . "Might be pissed."

His Observer agrees: "******* good looker too. That''s a bonus."

That''s agreed then.

Evenin'' all[:|]

 

 

 

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I have to take you to task with this Cam, in fact you have really rather annoyed me, my husband was a policeman, a good policeman who retired after 31 years service.  He has never once been racist, sexist or any other ''ist'' you care to think of.

So my adfice to you is don''t tar them all with the same brush.

Those racist, and sexist people might save your life one day.  [:@]

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We must all speak as we find.  I''ve spent 50 years dealing with them and still am.

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I''m sorry Cam but you are wrong, you have never dealt with my husband, nor the vast majority of police men and women in the UK, so why band them all together?  I speak as I find too, but there comes a point when you might just say, the ones I''ve had dealings with and not tarring them with the same brush.  Hell of a difference in meeting a hundred in your life to meeting each and every single officer.

They are not all the same, they do not all think the same, they do not all act the same. 

 

 

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WAY49 - don''t forget that Cam is a tabloid journalist by trade and therefore deals in generalisations on a daily basis.

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[quote user="jetstream"]WAY49 - don''t forget that Cam is a tabloid journalist by trade and therefore deals in generalisations on a daily basis.[/quote]

It won''t be everyone but it remains overt in the force - particularly among the non uniform lot.

Police Review October 17 2008:

http://www4.janes.com/subscribe/jprcom/doc_view.jsp?K2DocKey=/content1/janesdata/mags/jprc/history/jprc2008/jpr31999.htm@current&Prod_Name=JPRC&QueryText=%3CAND%3E%28%3COR%3E%28%28%5B80%5Dsexism+%3CIN%3E+body%29%2C+%28%5B100%5D+%28%5B100%5Dsexism+%3CIN%3E+title%29+%3CAND%3E+%28%5B100%5Dsexism+%3CIN%3E+body%29%29%29%29

I can assure you that when the drinking gang are in full flow you''d be left in no doubt whatsoever.[:#]

 

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[quote user="T"]

There are 3 strategies that could be adopted at the AGM:

1. Making silly childish gestures

2. Making lurid speculative allegations which completely ignore the main new story in the real world for the last year

3. Asking intelligent considered probing questions.

None of these strategies will change the reality of the seismic changes in football economics which the likes of the chairman of Bolton, Wigan, Reading, Crystal Palace and the independent report from Deloitte have commented on. However, strategies 1 and 2 merely demonstrate a small IQ while at least with 3 you may gain some additional insight and some respect.

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Gain some respect???

Who from you ignoramus???

Who would want to get respect from those who are not prepared to listen and who quite clearly do not give their paying customers any???

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Well I''m with you WAY49. I was a policeman but I wasnt going to bother replying to Cams ridiculous generalisation as I have already had a go at him in the last week or so on another subject.

I do like Cams input to this board but what he wrote, I believe, is in poor taste.

I was in CID attachment during my time and i do not recognise this description of the force.

Like emergency services there are interesting senses of humour, but that helps get them through some of the unpalatable jobs.

Certainly like any other public service it has to put up with jokes but his description is a typical caricature that journalists use and indeed get away with.

Finally, with the ''right on'' Labour Party having tried successfully over the last few years to ensure only ''their type'' finds his or her way to a powerful position, I find it even more surprising that it is as rife as Cam claims.

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A few observations on the intechange between some on this thread:

  • Companies in all lines of business are notorious for structuring their AGM''s in such a way that it makes it difficult, to say the least, for there to be a groundswell of criticism from the floor. CA makes a positive suggestion as a possibility to counter that.
  • Mr. Tilson, a former police officer ( I am led to believe ), for some reason that is not readily clear to the reader, decides to chastise CA, a supporter who even Kathy Blake would almost certainly acknowledge is at least an involved supporter in the affairs of the club, and has even suggested that CA is usually making copious notes at meetings and sharing feedback with other fans.  Mr. Tilson not only chastises CA but uses sexist terms to do so. Okay, lots of that goes on a forum like this but one would hope that the current principal of the NCISA would not resort to such behaviour, particularly when he is chastising someone on serious subject matter. CA expresses her distaste.
  • Cameldonum advises CA it will be difficult for TIL 1010 not to use such references because he formerly belonged to an organisation that would leave others in the dust when it comes to practising racism and sexism. I find that difficult to argue with because, having lived in a number of different countries in my life, it is clear to me and leading citizen groups and politicians that the police force, as an organisation, has systemic problems in these areas beyond a level that is tolerated in most other organisations.
  • WAY49 once again demonstrates her inability to digest information factually and, perhaps because she is married to a ( former ) policeman, takes the input personally and suggests that Cameldonum is tarring every police officer with the same brush and that he is wrong. Of course, Cam did no such thing as making reference to all policeman but stated as I have previously that, as an organisation, it has significant issues in these areas compared to other areas of society. What is rather interesting with WAY49 is why the husband did not respond given his direct experience in this area. I suppose we have all come to understand, by now, that is not necessary as she and her husband post under the same name and, in any event, according to her, he agrees with everything she states. Personally, I would like to hear from him first hand, particularly in an area where his experience is relevant. It''s also rather interesting WAY to see that you did not offer any opinion or support to a poster who is also female and had been addressed in such a manner by a former policeman.

Getting back to the point of the thread, I would like to make a suggestion. In order to at least make a point in the  club''s AGM ( or any AGM of any business ) if it were possible to orchestrate an approach to provide balance to the advantage of the organisation''s AGM here''s how I would like to see it done. There would need to be an equally well planned and organised approach to counter the structured approach of the club. Imagine, for example, if 200 shareholders, for example, had particularly strong views on a relatively small number of questions and, as each of their focused questions were asked, all 200 shareholders on a pre-planned basis( others could stand too if they are so inclined ) were invited to stand at the end of each question simply to demonstrate if they also had concerns in this area, then 200 people ( as opposed to CA''s approach they would deliberately be scattered throughout the audience for effect ) would stand up momentarily before an answer was obtained. This would continue to be applied to each of the key questions throughout the evening. A little childish, you might think. Perhaps, but it might cause those responsible for addressing the questions to feel a little less confident in giving their normal pat answer on a one on one basis.      

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My favourite current story, albeit March 2008, is from a Woman Police Constable.

She was part of a four person raid on a child porn suspect in Halstead, Essex.  7 a.m start.  It was led by a Detective Sergeant.

She said to the Team Leader: "What is my role?"  He said: "If there''s any girlies about they are yours.  That''s why you are here."

When they arrived there weren''t any girlies about. 

The boys showed their Warrant and marched into the house.

She, describing her role as being close to a spare p****k at a wedding,says: "Anything I can do to help?"

Team Leader: "If you want something to do you could search his rubbish bin."

Notwithstanding current/former/retired members of Her Majesty''s Constabulary I will stand by what I have written.

Which, of course, is not to mention people fitted up for TIC''s which they didn''t do.

Obviously it is dead straight in Norfolk. Obviously wrong county.  Sorry![+o(]

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[quote user="Camuldonum"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="Camuldonum"]

[quote user="cityangel"]Please tell us more Cam, why does he call all us females ''babe''[:D][/quote]

Ermmmm[:#]

Okay you want the truth?  Because he is a former member of an organisation which in terms of sexism and racism then, and now, leaves everyone else in the dust.

"F**k me there''s a a black bloke driving a Merc.  Come on, let''s have him."  On go the lights.

"Okay, you are Chairman of the Race Relations Board.  Just a routine stop.  Goodnight, Sir."

Not quite Blues N Two''s on the telly but it is in real life.

"Slow driving," says the Traffic man . "Might be pissed."

His Observer agrees: "******* good looker too. That''s a bonus."

That''s agreed then.

Evenin'' all[:|]

 

 

 

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I have to take you to task with this Cam, in fact you have really rather annoyed me, my husband was a policeman, a good policeman who retired after 31 years service.  He has never once been racist, sexist or any other ''ist'' you care to think of.

So my adfice to you is don''t tar them all with the same brush.

Those racist, and sexist people might save your life one day.  [:@]

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We must all speak as we find.  I''ve spent 50 years dealing with them and still am.

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You don''t like British Servicemen either, do you? But you reside in a Garrison Town.....How strange.......[:|]

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[quote user="gazzathegreat"]Mr Tilson Bullying your paid up NCISA members won''t get you anywhere I am afraid. What CA has done to annoy you I suspect only you know. As for her not speaking up against the board, as she has said she asked Delia a question at a club forum. She has asked many at the annual NCISA events. I too have questioned Munby at a forum in the past. I have also asked NCISA if a statement can be read out regarding the current situation at the club regarding possible takeover and our league position. I have yet to receive a reply about this. Like CA I haven''t emailed NCISA - I think on this messageboard (and the official site where Face appears regularly) our feelings about certain aspects of the club are well documented. Your post on this thread confirms that you have received some replies, so why have a go at her? I am however prepared to send you or Kathy an email if that would help matters. Could you confirm that you will be collating all NCISA member responses and giving the board some feedback at the AGM as to their opinions?[/quote]

Jane,i do not understand the "i have asked NCISA if a statement" followed by "like CA i haven''t emailed NCISA".  !!!!! One appears to contradict the other.I have spoken to Kathy and i am sorry to say that neither of us has had contact from you either written or by phone in the recent past so that possibly explains "i have yet to receive a reply".Please feel free to make contact.

I was unaware that calling someone "babe" is deemed sexist so guilty as charged by the PC brigade.Sorry and in future maybe i will use obscene language that goes un checked from time to time on this messageboard which personally i find far more offensive but hey who cares what i think.

To answer Gazza TCC and yourself Jane all correspondence is collated by Kathy and acknowledged by her.That includes the downright abusive emails that crop up from time to time.All emails that are sent to other committee members are forwarded to Kathy.I am sure you appreciate that Kathy has a full time day job and all NCISA work she undertakes is done in her own time at no cost.

 

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[quote user="cityangel"]Please tell us more Cam, why does he call all us females ''babe''[:D][/quote]

Ermmmm[:#]

Okay you want the truth?  Because he is a former member of an organisation which in terms of sexism and racism then, and now, leaves everyone else in the dust.

"F**k me there''s a a black bloke driving a Merc.  Come on, let''s have him."  On go the lights.

"Okay, you are Chairman of the Race Relations Board.  Just a routine stop.  Goodnight, Sir."

Not quite Blues N Two''s on the telly but it is in real life.

"Slow driving," says the Traffic man . "Might be pissed."

His Observer agrees: "******* good looker too. That''s a bonus."

That''s agreed then.

Evenin'' all[:|]

Now then Camuldonum i sincerely hope that you are not for one minute saying that i am racist because if you are just say so and believe me the moderators will be the very least of your problems.

By your logic(and i apologise in advance if this offends anyone ) i should classify all journalists as intrusive motor bike riders who roam the streets of Paris causing Mercedes cars to crash in tunnels whilst in search of a few photos! But then again i believe that you have spent most of your life being a wannabe reporter who has sold the odd story to his local paper.

I will ask again---------- Are you saying i am a racist yes or no?

 

 

 

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John, I was referring to a question posed by myself as to whether NCISA were prepared to read out a statement at the AGM which would indicate the feelings of the Association''s members. That post has yet to receive a reply, though the thread was hijacked and went off track a little.

At the time of that post I hadn''t emailed or phoned either yourself or Kathy. I have now emailed David with my thoughts and they have been posted on here and the official site also.

I was astounded to read your ill thought out reply to CA. She has spoken up at public meetings. If your aim is to alienate NCISA members you have succeeded. Perhaps you could confirm that NCISA will be using members'' feedback at the AGM or at another occasion. I appreciate that when the thread is used for other issues (sometimes personal) other posts can be lost and therefore I asked once again for a response to my previous questions.

I would have taken offence to have been called "babe" too. It''s nothing to do with political correctness, it just smacks of disrespect to someone the organisation is supposed to be representing.

I am sure Kathy will fulfill her role with the upmost diligence, like her I also have a full time job and appreciate the time she takes in representing us as NCISA secretary.

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[quote user="gazzathegreat"]Mr Tilson Bullying your paid up NCISA members won''t get you anywhere I am afraid. What CA has done to annoy you I suspect only you know. As for her not speaking up against the board, as she has said she asked Delia a question at a club forum. She has asked many at the annual NCISA events. I too have questioned Munby at a forum in the past. I have also asked NCISA if a statement can be read out regarding the current situation at the club regarding possible takeover and our league position. I have yet to receive a reply about this. Like CA I haven''t emailed NCISA - I think on this messageboard (and the official site where Face appears regularly) our feelings about certain aspects of the club are well documented. Your post on this thread confirms that you have received some replies, so why have a go at her? I am however prepared to send you or Kathy an email if that would help matters. Could you confirm that you will be collating all NCISA member responses and giving the board some feedback at the AGM as to their opinions?[/quote]

Jane,i do not understand the "i have asked NCISA if a statement" followed by "like CA i haven''t emailed NCISA".  !!!!! One appears to contradict the other.I have spoken to Kathy and i am sorry to say that neither of us has had contact from you either written or by phone in the recent past so that possibly explains "i have yet to receive a reply".Please feel free to make contact.

I was unaware that calling someone "babe" is deemed sexist so guilty as charged by the PC brigade.Sorry and in future maybe i will use obscene language that goes un checked from time to time on this messageboard which personally i find far more offensive but hey who cares what i think.

To answer Gazza TCC and yourself Jane all correspondence is collated by Kathy and acknowledged by her.That includes the downright abusive emails that crop up from time to time.All emails that are sent to other committee members are forwarded to Kathy.I am sure you appreciate that Kathy has a full time day job and all NCISA work she undertakes is done in her own time at no cost.

 

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John, I believe that you, like most of us, are probably a very nice man but your own words demonstrate the point I was trying to make. If you had ben employed in any reasonably sized business organisation over the past few years, particularly in a position where you had authority, and used the term "babe" in addressing a woman then such references could be used as a basis for an employee claiming sexual harassment. Whether you or I would think the world had gone mad or become politically correct is not the point. The fact that many in various organisations in the world of today seem unaware of what is innapropriate is a reflection of a systemic problem where those organisations may not have been subjected to the same level of training ( I''m not saying there was no knowledge ) as many others as to the way the laws were both evolving and being applied.  

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[quote user="YankeeCanary"]

John, I believe that you, like most of us, are probably a very nice man [/quote]

 

You haven''t met him Yankee [:)]

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[quote user="cityangel"][quote user="YankeeCanary"]

John, I believe that you, like most of us, are probably a very nice man [/quote]

 

You haven''t met him Yankee [:)]

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Sounds like you are going to have to send me a private message. Big Smile [:D]

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YC, my reply to your statement

  • WAY49 once again demonstrates her inability to digest information factually and, perhaps because she is married to a ( former ) policeman, takes the input personally and suggests that Cameldonum is tarring every police officer with the same brush and that he is wrong. Of course, Cam did no such thing as making reference to all policeman but stated as I have previously that, as an organisation, it has significant issues in these areas compared to other areas of society. What is rather interesting with WAY49 is why the husband did not respond given his direct experience in this area. I suppose we have all come to understand, by now, that is not necessary as she and her husband post under the same name and, in any event, according to her, he agrees with everything she states. Personally, I would like to hear from him first hand, particularly in an area where his experience is relevant. It''s also rather interesting WAY to see that you did not offer any opinion or support to a poster who is also female and had been addressed in such a manner by a former policeman.
  • I state things as I read them, and of course I take things personally when generalisations are made like Cam made.  I, as the wife of a retired policeman can speak for him as he does me, in fact 9/10 he sits right with me while I am typing.  So what, big deal, we post under the same user name, what''s the point of having two names on the same computer with one e-mail address? 

    I did not offer support to another female just as they have never defended me on this or other issues and I feel they are perfectly adult enough to deal with the issues raised.  Personally I take the term babe, hun or sweetie as a term of endearment not an insult.

    Now in future I would be more than happy if you ignore my posts, just as I try to ignore yours.  Many thanks and have a nice day [:)]

     

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    this entire thread would be a psychologists dream! how it changes from the topic on what Doomy said to how it ends is interesting reading....

    jas :)

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    [quote user="TIL 1010"]

    [quote user="gazzathegreat"]Mr Tilson Bullying your paid up NCISA members won''t get you anywhere I am afraid. What CA has done to annoy you I suspect only you know. As for her not speaking up against the board, as she has said she asked Delia a question at a club forum. She has asked many at the annual NCISA events. I too have questioned Munby at a forum in the past. I have also asked NCISA if a statement can be read out regarding the current situation at the club regarding possible takeover and our league position. I have yet to receive a reply about this. Like CA I haven''t emailed NCISA - I think on this messageboard (and the official site where Face appears regularly) our feelings about certain aspects of the club are well documented. Your post on this thread confirms that you have received some replies, so why have a go at her? I am however prepared to send you or Kathy an email if that would help matters. Could you confirm that you will be collating all NCISA member responses and giving the board some feedback at the AGM as to their opinions?[/quote]

    Jane,i do not understand the "i have asked NCISA if a statement" followed by "like CA i haven''t emailed NCISA".  !!!!! One appears to contradict the other.I have spoken to Kathy and i am sorry to say that neither of us has had contact from you either written or by phone in the recent past so that possibly explains "i have yet to receive a reply".Please feel free to make contact.

    I was unaware that calling someone "babe" is deemed sexist so guilty as charged by the PC brigade.Sorry and in future maybe i will use obscene language that goes un checked from time to time on this messageboard which personally i find far more offensive but hey who cares what i think.

    To answer Gazza TCC and yourself Jane all correspondence is collated by Kathy and acknowledged by her.That includes the downright abusive emails that crop up from time to time.All emails that are sent to other committee members are forwarded to Kathy.I am sure you appreciate that Kathy has a full time day job and all NCISA work she undertakes is done in her own time at no cost.

     

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    John, on the basis that the last two times I''ve emailed you direct (the last one also copied to the NCISA email address) and haven''t even had an acknowledgement, I wait with baited breath!

    Sure, abusive emails don''t merit a reply, but, neither of mine fall into that category and I would have thought they were, at the very least, worthy of an acknowledgement? If NCISA are looking to attract new members and their first interface with the group is sending an email that doesn''t get a reply one is left wondering "why bother with this organisation?"

     

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    [quote user="YankeeCanary"][quote user="cityangel"][quote user="YankeeCanary"]

    John, I believe that you, like most of us, are probably a very nice man [/quote]

     

    You haven''t met him Yankee [:)]

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    Sounds like you are going to have to send me a private message. Big Smile [:D]

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    Was only joking Tilly, hence the smiley before you have another go at me!

    No private message Yankee, come over and meet him and make your own mind up [:D]

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