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[quote user="Paint Me Yellow"]I want this done so we can wave £20 notes at the scum on December 7th.[/quote]

That would be something woudn''t it PMY?

I will not get my hopes up too much over this, but if it did, I''d wheel myself naked through Lowestoft![;)]

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CULLUM OUT!!  CULLUM OUT!!

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[quote user="ron obvious"][quote user="shyster"][quote]Cullums Axe is weilding?[/quote]

Hopefully it is Cullum and hopefully he''s sharpening that axe for the neck of Roeder.[/quote]To be replaced by .........[/quote]

A good manager.We haven''t had one since Martin O''Neil.

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Why all the negativity about Roeder all of a sudden, I''d sooner have a manager wanting to win football matches the right way rather than booting it long which has happened in our recent past. The standard of football and quality has increased in the games I''ve seen since Roeder came in, the only thing I feel is wrong is that we don''t own many of the players that we have got in recently, but this cannot be remedied unless you have deep pockets.

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[quote user="shyster"][quote user="ron obvious"][quote user="shyster"][quote]Cullums Axe is weilding?[/quote]


Hopefully it is Cullum and hopefully he''s sharpening that axe for the neck of Roeder.
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To be replaced by .........
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A good manager.

We haven''t had one since Martin O''Neil.
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the same "good Manager" who resigned on the dfay of a game against the team he was appointed manager of the next day? Martin O''Neil is a Tosser of the highest order....half the time he was fudging about in Wycombe instead of coaching the squad anyway!

jas :)

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[quote user="shyster"][quote user="ron obvious"][quote user="shyster"][quote]Cullums Axe is weilding?[/quote]


Hopefully it is Cullum and hopefully he''s sharpening that axe for the neck of Roeder.
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To be replaced by .........
[/quote]



A good manager.

We haven''t had one since Martin O''Neil.
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Were you in a coma when Worthy took us to the Premiership?

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[quote user="norfolkchance1"]Why all the negativity about Roeder all of a sudden, I''d sooner have a manager wanting to win football matches the right way rather than booting it long which has happened in our recent past. The standard of football and quality has increased in the games I''ve seen since Roeder came in, the only thing I feel is wrong is that we don''t own many of the players that we have got in recently, but this cannot be remedied unless you have deep pockets.[/quote]

Attempting to win matches the "right way" will see us relegated, sunshine. We need to get out of this Division (Stoke & Hull style) before we can concentrate on playing attractive football with the purchases of quality footballers that only promotion to the Premier could secure.Ian Dowie observed the afforementioned facts and has built a physical & disciplined team without spending a fortune - a team that is likely to gain promotion to the Premier where he know''s he can then purchase the quality necessary to play attractive football.Roeder missed the boat, yet again.

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[quote user="shyster"][quote user="ron obvious"][quote user="shyster"][quote]Cullums Axe is weilding?[/quote]

Hopefully it is Cullum and hopefully he''s sharpening that axe for the neck of Roeder.[/quote]To be replaced by .........[/quote]

A good manager.We haven''t had one since Martin O''Neil.[/quote]

 

Were you in a coma when Worthy took us to the Premiership?

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Worthington got lucky with a good bunch of players, similar to Jack Charlton when he managed the Republic of Ireland.

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[quote user="norfolkchance1"]Why all the negativity about Roeder all of a sudden, I''d sooner have a manager wanting to win football matches the right way rather than booting it long which has happened in our recent past. The standard of football and quality has increased in the games I''ve seen since Roeder came in, the only thing I feel is wrong is that we don''t own many of the players that we have got in recently, but this cannot be remedied unless you have deep pockets.[/quote]

I think Shyster would rather see the likes of Big Sam Long Ball here instead.  Wouldn''t recognise a decent footballing manager if it bit him in the a***

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[quote user="shyster"][quote user="norfolkchance1"]Why all the negativity about Roeder all of a sudden, I''d sooner have a manager wanting to win football matches the right way rather than booting it long which has happened in our recent past. The standard of football and quality has increased in the games I''ve seen since Roeder came in, the only thing I feel is wrong is that we don''t own many of the players that we have got in recently, but this cannot be remedied unless you have deep pockets.[/quote]


Attempting to win matches the "right way" will see us relegated, sunshine. We need to get out of this Division (Stoke & Hull style) before we can concentrate on playing attractive football with the purchases of quality footballers that only promotion to the Premier could secure.

Ian Dowie observed the afforementioned facts and has built a physical & disciplined team without spending a fortune - a team that is likely to gain promotion to the Premier where he know''s he can then purchase the quality necessary to play attractive football.

Roeder missed the boat, yet again.
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You''d be happy with moving the touchlines in a metre at either side and rocket launching balls into the box like Stoke do, if there is any justice in football they will be coming on the first train back to the championship. I''ve seen enough hoof ball in recent years to know that gets you nowhere.  

I would much rather go up the way West Brom did playing decent football that might give us half a chance of staying up. I agree at times you need to mix it but you need to be able to play football and hold the ball especially when leading. Also if you go up playing hoof ball you struggle to change the way you play as decent players don''t wan''t to join you for fear of being corrupted into that method of football.

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I don''t agree with the idea that you can''t get out of this division playing passing football. The long-ball game - even played to its upmost, will only get you so far, as Stoke are finding out. After all, it only kept Wimbledon IN the Premiership, they never had a chance of winning it. Passing football IMO, played to its upmost, gets you much further, and thus is the mentality you must instill in a club if you want to achieve the most.

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I wish we had a long throw specialist in the team of the quality of Delap. As well as being hugely effective they''re also pretty entertaining to watch if you''re a Stoke fan I imagine...

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[quote user="Grando"]I wish we had a long throw specialist in the team of the quality of Delap. As well as being hugely effective they''re also pretty entertaining to watch if you''re a Stoke fan I imagine...[/quote]

I think long throws should be written out of the rules by increasing the pitch size or stopping people from being able to throw into the penalty area.

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Lets hope all these rumours about Cullum are true cause its quite obvious that Delia and her husband have taken us as far as they can although I''m grateful for what they''ve done I think they need to get out sooner rather than later!

 

In this day and age Delia and Michael are poor millionaires in terms of the finance needed to run football clubs!

 

Theres something going on, what with all the speculation, Doncaster admitting that talks are in place, the deafly silence from Delia and Michael and the Turners departure for reasons that we have not been told about!

 

As for Roeder well we''ve been through too much upheavel in the past few years so I think we need to give him time but he won''t get time unless the team improves I''m afraid to say.

 

- As much as what we''ve improved the defence and the midfield the team are still very poor in the final 3rd of the pitch and seem obsessed with trying to overpass and run the ball into the net. If this doesn''t improve we''ll be nearer the bottom than the top!

 

The lack of attacking impetus gets fans immediately thinking of one of our best ever attacking players who Roeder thought good to let go - Releasing Darren Huckerby was a terrible misjudgement on Roeders part. We could of done without Eagle whos never going to play and the very raw Koroma whos not good enough and kept Hucks.

 

I fear this massive error from Roeder will comeback to haunt him!

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[quote user="Grando"]I wish we had a long throw specialist in the team of the quality of Delap. As well as being hugely effective they''re also pretty entertaining to watch if you''re a Stoke fan I imagine...[/quote]

I didn''t say that the Stoke way was entertaining - neither were the old Watford & Wimbledon ways for the most part, but that direct & physical style of football IS the most effective way out of this Division.Nor did I state that Stoke wouldn''t come straight back down, I''m pretty sure they will - they haven''t spent well and they have a one-trick manager in Pullis, who is out of his depth in the Premier.A good manager with decent resources and more than one string to his bow would keep a promoted team in the Premier, and Roeder isn''t it.

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[quote user="shyster"][quote user="Grando"]I wish we had a long throw specialist in the team of the quality of Delap. As well as being hugely effective they''re also pretty entertaining to watch if you''re a Stoke fan I imagine...[/quote]


I didn''t say that the Stoke way was entertaining - neither were the old Watford & Wimbledon ways for the most part, but that direct & physical style of football IS the most effective way out of this Division.

Nor did I state that Stoke wouldn''t come straight back down, I''m pretty sure they will - they haven''t spent well and they have a one-trick manager in Pullis, who is out of his depth in the Premier.

A good manager with decent resources and more than one string to his bow would keep a promoted team in the Premier, and Roeder isn''t it.
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But we do have to actually gain promotion first, that''s the tricky bit, and to be fair we really have got to give GR the benefit of the doubt, each time we lose or don''t get good results the answer isn''t to change managers lol.  It may be a whole different story if GR had the backing money wise to buy real top players to push for promotion, but sadly with the board we have I don''t think they can take us any further forwards, so we have a make do and mend squad.

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[quote user="shyster"][quote user="Grando"]I wish we had a long throw specialist in the team of the quality of Delap. As well as being hugely effective they''re also pretty entertaining to watch if you''re a Stoke fan I imagine...[/quote]

I didn''t say that the Stoke way was entertaining - neither were the old Watford & Wimbledon ways for the most part, but that direct & physical style of football IS the most effective way out of this Division.Nor did I state that Stoke wouldn''t come straight back down, I''m pretty sure they will - they haven''t spent well and they have a one-trick manager in Pullis, who is out of his depth in the Premier.A good manager with decent resources and more than one string to his bow would keep a promoted team in the Premier, and Roeder isn''t it.[/quote]

 

But we do have to actually gain promotion first, that''s the tricky bit, and to be fair we really have got to give GR the benefit of the doubt, each time we lose or don''t get good results the answer isn''t to change managers lol.  It may be a whole different story if GR had the backing money wise to buy real top players to push for promotion, but sadly with the board we have I don''t think they can take us any further forwards, so we have a make do and mend squad.

[/quote]exactly - for example, roedy gots sibs at the death in the tranny window - and admitted he wasn''t high on his list of ideals, so in the circumstances the boy roedy did good - but he still wants another, and is unlikely to get it...

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Paint Me Yellow"]I want this done so we can wave £20 notes at the scum on December 7th.[/quote]

That would be something woudn''t it PMY?

I will not get my hopes up too much over this, but if it did, I''d wheel myself naked through Lowestoft![;)]

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In that case, I hope you don''t hit any red lights. This would be more than any local shoppers should have to endure.

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[quote user="jas the barclay king"]

[quote user="shyster"][quote user="ron obvious"][quote user="shyster"][quote]Cullums Axe is weilding?[/quote]


Hopefully it is Cullum and hopefully he''s sharpening that axe for the neck of Roeder.
[/quote]

To be replaced by .........
[/quote]



A good manager.

We haven''t had one since Martin O''Neil.
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the same "good Manager" who resigned on the dfay of a game against the team he was appointed manager of the next day? Martin O''Neil is a Tosser of the highest order....half the time he was fudging about in Wycombe instead of coaching the squad anyway!

jas :)

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Was that really necessary Jas? I stood up for you recently when you took some fearful stick from a few posters. Maybe I was wrong.

I wonder if the fans of Leicester, Celtic and Aston Villa agree with your ridiculous comment.

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[quote user="Yellow Rider"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

[quote user="shyster"][quote user="ron obvious"][quote user="shyster"][quote]Cullums Axe is weilding?[/quote]


Hopefully it is Cullum and hopefully he''s sharpening that axe for the neck of Roeder.
[/quote]

To be replaced by .........
[/quote]



A good manager.

We haven''t had one since Martin O''Neil.
[/quote]

the same "good Manager" who resigned on the dfay of a game against the team he was appointed manager of the next day? Martin O''Neil is a Tosser of the highest order....half the time he was fudging about in Wycombe instead of coaching the squad anyway!

jas :)

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Was that really necessary Jas? I stood up for you recently when you took some fearful stick from a few posters. Maybe I was wrong.

I wonder if the fans of Leicester, Celtic and Aston Villa agree with your ridiculous comment.

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its just that what he did was unforigveable.. i dont actually blame him for resigning.. we all know the circumstances.. but to do it on the day of a game against a team i reckon had already offered him the job was not acceptable... it was all about Him at the end of the day.... having Read Gunnys book, Although gunny seems to like O''Neil.. my opinion of him plummeted even further....

He''s had undoubted success, but that takes nothing away from his character as far as im concerned

jas :)

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Perhaps you could explain a couple of things to me Jas. First of all, why you seem to think that Martin O''Neill just walked from the Norwich job into the Leicester one. He had undoubtedly told Chase he was going before that day. There was strong suggestion he was going before that day, but some of us hoped it could be prevented. We all know the reasons. He wasn''t given the go ahead to buy Dean Windass (strange to think of it now in hindsight isn''t it) and now we all know why Chase couldn''t buy him, though I concede he might have wished to do so. At the time we were doing rather well, but of course we didn''t go up that season and I think Leicester might have done, but correct me if I am wrong. Since then O''Neill has gone on to have success at the clubs mentioned above.

As for the players he left behind. Yes, some might not have liked him (but I think you will find that true of most players and manager relationships). I compare O''Neill and Roeder in one way, and that is they both demand the best from players, they don''t accept second best and the easy going attitude which has been at this club for a long time.

As for Gunn''s book, well, it''s his book so therefore his opinion. Without O''Neill that team were starved of success, most of them had tasted it under Walker (but that''s another story). We will never know what might have happened had O''Neill stayed longer.

As for O''Neill''s character, I remember him coming to an evening with NCISA - and he talked for over an hour, probably longer, about his days in football, including some hilarious times with Brian Clough and Nottingham Forest. He also talked with great passion about what he wanted for Norwich City. Afterwards he talked to fans and seemed genuine enough in listening to them and having photos taken etc. He seemed okay to me. But then again that''s only my opinion.

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