Some City Fans Are Destroying Our Club

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[quote user="Saint Canary"]Why can''t people moan on here and still support the 11 players on the pitch.  The two are not mutually exclusive and I would rather people post their frustrations here or on canary call rather than at CR[/quote]

 

I agree that there is nothing wrong with moaning,particularly after pathetic performances like Wednesday''s.The problem that I think BlueJam is referring to,and I certainly was,are the relatively small group on here who never have anything positive to say about the club.

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So, you''re the official spokesperson for the supposed relatively ''LARGE'' group of positives then, are you? The positive brigade that you feel that you champion - because criticism of the club and a negative attitude towards the board and the Chief Exec is totally unwarranted - and not in line with your opinion and thoughts......What makes you so right?[|-)]  

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[quote user="BlueJam"]I have to say this:I''ve had a season ticket at City for more years than I care to remember. I''ve seen some good football, some bad football and some truely shocking football. But of late I''ve come to the conclusion that a lot of City fans are ruining the club from the inside, like a rotten apple. Take Smudgers comments for example. He claims that we had no shots on target against QPR; well I saw several, perhaps he was in the bar or had his back to the pitch for 90 minutes? When it was pointed out that we did have shots on goal, he replies "well I didn''t see many", as though the fact we did have shots on goal didn''t really make any difference to the statement "we didn''t have any shots on goal". I don''t know what thats all about do you?Several people think that because we had an indifferent performance on Wednesday that we are relagation materiel. Well Manchester united lost to Liverpool and only drew in the Champions League, I expect that Sir Alex has decided to scale down his operations in preperation for Championship football next season, and no European football ever again. I wish them all the best, because they are most certainly doomed, aren''t they? The less I say about the prize plums that phone Neil Adams during Canary Call the better. The plonker on Wednesday stated that "It was an embarresment; the worst performance he has ever seen at Carrow Road..Blah blah blah". Where has this plonker been since we got relegated from the Premier League? I''d have given my hind teeth for a performance like that over the last three years. The Mr Plonker lives in a dream world. More irritating is the fact the Mr Plonker thinks he is right, when clearly he isn''t. He''s probably one of the same fickle plonkers who text in (to Canary Call) and say we will get automatic promotion after we performed so well against Birmingham.Notice how after the good performances against Birmingham and Plymouth that Canary Call was struggling for moaners, I mean callers? Funny that.On the subject of moaning about loan players. We haven''t got the money to buy lots of quality new players, so put up with it. Bertrand, Kennedy and Lupoli would cost just too much money, and yes they do the effort in.Lets face facts here. City put in a below par performance on Wednesday, and failed to beat a 10 man QPR side, who looked a very good side I might add. We a match for them in the first half, and were unlucky to be a goal down (silly from Fozzy and Matty and probably bad goal keeping). But look at the bigger picture. We are playing some neat football, much better than the last few seasons, and yes, better than Worthington style football too. Perhaps not as effective yet, but it will come. So morale of this post is : stop moaning, it''s sapping the life from us all. /discuss.[/quote]

Some fans are destroying this club, namely fans like you Blue Jam!

Its you and your fellow happy clappers who help convince Smith and Jones that things are all well and peachy, sell out crowds for a crap team and board are part of the problem!

I met hundreds of ''head in the sand'' fans like you during the Chase Out days, and no doubt you supported him back then too.

Nothing will ever change at City until the holier than thou fans like you, damn well wake up![8o|]

[/quote]lol, you are a prick 1st Wiz, the blood runs deep and it runs yellow and green with me sonny. I''m an avid and active, aggressive at times, over the top Canry loving full time supporter. To have part time ponces like you tell me I''m a "happy clapper" actually makes me laugh. Do you wake up on a saturday with those match day nerves jangling in your stomach, do you feel the pain of every goal against, and feel the euphoria of every goal scored? I''m passionate, like many many others. Where were you when I was standing in the rain watching us lose to Gillingham at home in front of 13000 people? I get the impression you jumped on the bandwagon when we made the play off finals. Look at the average gate before that, well I was one of the few.Don''t preach your happy clapper bollocks with me because it wont wash. You are a nasty negative full of crap anti-supporter, and the sooner you start to treat others with a little more respect, the sooner you may get the respect you so crave. [:@]

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Just to add; lets not lose sight of what my original point is\was.I think we are all entitled to have our say about what is going on at Carrow Road, that''s expected and it''s healthy. However, it''s the blind, unfounded and unqualified negative statements that are the problem. I''ll say again, the fellow who said the Wednesday was the worst in he has seen in terms of performance. That''s the talk of a lunatic who seems to have not watched any games for the last 3 years - wasn''t you was it 1st Wiz? 

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[quote user="city4life"]Its not fans destroying our club at all.  It is the way all Norwich fans are!!  We can be the greatest fans in England when we are winning but the worst when we are losing. They have been like it for years where I sit in the Barclay and nothing changed on Wednesday night!  I always hear people criticising players when we do not win, but then the next game I hear them saying those players in particular are the best for our team.  It is just the way we are...and you need to remember it!  Get on with your supporting and forget others.[/quote]

You speak for yourself. I''ll thank you most kindly not to speak for me.

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="BlueJam"]I have to say this:

I''ve had a season ticket at City for more years than I care to remember. I''ve seen some good football, some bad football and some truely shocking football. But of late I''ve come to the conclusion that a lot of City fans are ruining the club from the inside, like a rotten apple.

Take Smudgers comments for example. He claims that we had no shots on target against QPR; well I saw several, perhaps he was in the bar or had his back to the pitch for 90 minutes? When it was pointed out that we did have shots on goal, he replies "well I didn''t see many", as though the fact we did have shots on goal didn''t really make any difference to the statement "we didn''t have any shots on goal". I don''t know what thats all about do you?

Several people think that because we had an indifferent performance on Wednesday that we are relagation materiel. Well Manchester united lost to Liverpool and only drew in the Champions League, I expect that Sir Alex has decided to scale down his operations in preperation for Championship football next season, and no European football ever again. I wish them all the best, because they are most certainly doomed, aren''t they?

The less I say about the prize plums that phone Neil Adams during Canary Call the better. The plonker on Wednesday stated that "It was an embarresment; the worst performance he has ever seen at Carrow Road..Blah blah blah". Where has this plonker been since we got relegated from the Premier League? I''d have given my hind teeth for a performance like that over the last three years. The Mr Plonker lives in a dream world. More irritating is the fact the Mr Plonker thinks he is right, when clearly he isn''t. He''s probably one of the same fickle plonkers who text in (to Canary Call) and say we will get automatic promotion after we performed so well against Birmingham.

Notice how after the good performances against Birmingham and Plymouth that Canary Call was struggling for moaners, I mean callers? Funny that.

On the subject of moaning about loan players. We haven''t got the money to buy lots of quality new players, so put up with it. Bertrand, Kennedy and Lupoli would cost just too much money, and yes they do the effort in.

Lets face facts here. City put in a below par performance on Wednesday, and failed to beat a 10 man QPR side, who looked a very good side I might add. We a match for them in the first half, and were unlucky to be a goal down (silly from Fozzy and Matty and probably bad goal keeping). But look at the bigger picture. We are playing some neat football, much better than the last few seasons, and yes, better than Worthington style football too. Perhaps not as effective yet, but it will come.

So morale of this post is : stop moaning, it''s sapping the life from us all.

/discuss.
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Some fans are destroying this club, namely fans like you Blue Jam!

Its you and your fellow happy clappers who help convince Smith and Jones that things are all well and peachy, sell out crowds for a crap team and board are part of the problem!

I met hundreds of ''head in the sand'' fans like you during the Chase Out days, and no doubt you supported him back then too.

Nothing will ever change at City until the holier than thou fans like you, damn well wake up![8o|]

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Here we go again

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[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="thecanaryfan"][quote user="Beauseant"]

[quote user="BlueJam"]I have to say this:

I''ve had a season ticket at City for more years than I care to remember. I''ve seen some good football, some bad football and some truely shocking football. But of late I''ve come to the conclusion that a lot of City fans are ruining the club from the inside, like a rotten apple.

Take Smudgers comments for example. He claims that we had no shots on target against QPR; well I saw several, perhaps he was in the bar or had his back to the pitch for 90 minutes? When it was pointed out that we did have shots on goal, he replies "well I didn''t see many", as though the fact we did have shots on goal didn''t really make any difference to the statement "we didn''t have any shots on goal". I don''t know what thats all about do you?

Several people think that because we had an indifferent performance on Wednesday that we are relagation materiel. Well Manchester united lost to Liverpool and only drew in the Champions League, I expect that Sir Alex has decided to scale down his operations in preperation for Championship football next season, and no European football ever again. I wish them all the best, because they are most certainly doomed, aren''t they?

The less I say about the prize plums that phone Neil Adams during Canary Call the better. The plonker on Wednesday stated that "It was an embarresment; the worst performance he has ever seen at Carrow Road..Blah blah blah". Where has this plonker been since we got relegated from the Premier League? I''d have given my hind teeth for a performance like that over the last three years. The Mr Plonker lives in a dream world. More irritating is the fact the Mr Plonker thinks he is right, when clearly he isn''t. He''s probably one of the same fickle plonkers who text in (to Canary Call) and say we will get automatic promotion after we performed so well against Birmingham.

Notice how after the good performances against Birmingham and Plymouth that Canary Call was struggling for moaners, I mean callers? Funny that.

On the subject of moaning about loan players. We haven''t got the money to buy lots of quality new players, so put up with it. Bertrand, Kennedy and Lupoli would cost just too much money, and yes they do the effort in.

Lets face facts here. City put in a below par performance on Wednesday, and failed to beat a 10 man QPR side, who looked a very good side I might add. We a match for them in the first half, and were unlucky to be a goal down (silly from Fozzy and Matty and probably bad goal keeping). But look at the bigger picture. We are playing some neat football, much better than the last few seasons, and yes, better than Worthington style football too. Perhaps not as effective yet, but it will come.

So morale of this post is : stop moaning, it''s sapping the life from us all.

/discuss.
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Great post BlueJam,and you are absolutely right.However,like me when I first joined the forum,you are seeing the attitudes of an insignificant minority as representative.There is a huge diversity of opinion regarding Delia, the Cullum issue and so on,but most people want the club to do well,even if our expectations and hopes fluctuate.

Sadly,however there are a hardcore who are just waiting for something negative to happen so that they can crawl from their holes and whine about how things will only improve if...(insert personal agenda here)...They are NOT City fans,but self obsessed barroom pundits who find,in the anonymity that the board offers,an opportunity to be self important.It would be instructive to look at board appearances over the last week.Certain,otherwise ubiquitous, posters hardly showed up between Saturday and Wednesday,yet,amazingly,have hardly been able to break free from their keyboards in the last couple of days.Its truly pathetic,but its good to see another new poster who cares about the club.

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So to question the team when they struggle/underperform means you dont support the club? Another genious comment from Beaseant. Well done. You''re lack of passion and ambition is quite frankly sickening.

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Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.Where did I say we shouldn''t criticise the team for bad performances? I actually said that we were pathetic on Wednesday.

Just because the cap fits you so snugly don''t try to wriggle out by misquoting me AGAIN. As for me being a genius,I would say only when set against you.

 

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We are going round in circles here Beaseant. If its ok to criticise the club, why do you persist in attacking those who choose to do so? You''re logic, or lack of it, is very confusing. [8-)]

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Well come on!! - when you are on a crusade, you just blindly scythe down all in front of you for goodness sake.......Logic? - thats only for heathen non-believers!

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[quote user="Lisa-Marie"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jc7"]

Don''t post on here very often, but have got to comment on what a complete dick that Wizard is, you are clueless about football and just moan about everthing, you are so predictable.

I think Bluejams post is the best for a while.

Only one gripe from me and that is I couldn''t believe how quite the ground was as soon as we went one nil down.

 

You should ask Wiz how many games he goes to.The answer,if given truthfully,will be illuminating.Another cosy armchair pundit .

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[/quote]Sadly, it seems to be the trend. I KNOW there are quite a lot of TRUE Norwich fans that read these posts but far too many don''t post as they are fed up of all the negativity.. Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions but I also think that Bluejam''s post is possibly the best post I have read for a long time and there are more than one or two of you that should read it and understand!

A really long shot I know but what if..... one or two of the team reads these posts, how would it make you feel if you were shot down time and time again, how many times would it take for you not to bother getting up again...?

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You''re not wrong LM, Your reasonable approach is always a joy to witness. However though I agree that Blujams post was insiteful, I also see it as a bit of a cop out. To accept the fact we have no money and to just put up and shut up without a fight is not an option.

And as for the criticising of players. Criticism will always have a place in football and it has a place for a reason. If a player doesnt like it he simply isnt good enough. If we have players in the squad that cant handle it and as you say "dont bother getting back up from it" then they dont deserve to wear the Norwich shirt. Have a read of the quote in my sig below. Possibly the wisest thing a football manager has ever said and reflect this debate perfectly.

PS - Why are you not manager yet?

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We support the team, even if we believe it not to be strong enough for more than mid-table. What we don''t support is those in charge of the club at present.

Has that cleared anything up for those who think the "moaners" are not fans of the club, but merely people who wish to bring the club down for self satisfaction and pleasure?

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[quote user="thecanaryfan"][quote user="Lisa-Marie"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jc7"]

Don''t post on here very often, but have got to comment on what a complete dick that Wizard is, you are clueless about football and just moan about everthing, you are so predictable.

I think Bluejams post is the best for a while.

Only one gripe from me and that is I couldn''t believe how quite the ground was as soon as we went one nil down.

 

You should ask Wiz how many games he goes to.The answer,if given truthfully,will be illuminating.Another cosy armchair pundit .

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[/quote]Sadly, it seems to be the trend. I KNOW there are quite a lot of TRUE Norwich fans that read these posts but far too many don''t post as they are fed up of all the negativity.. Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions but I also think that Bluejam''s post is possibly the best post I have read for a long time and there are more than one or two of you that should read it and understand!

A really long shot I know but what if..... one or two of the team reads these posts, how would it make you feel if you were shot down time and time again, how many times would it take for you not to bother getting up again...?

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You''re not wrong LM, Your reasonable approach is always a joy to witness. However though I agree that Blujams post was insiteful, I also see it as a bit of a cop out. To accept the fact we have no money and to just put up and shut up without a fight is not an option.

And as for the criticising of players. Criticism will always have a place in football and it has a place for a reason. If a player doesnt like it he simply isnt good enough. If we have players in the squad that cant handle it and as you say "dont bother getting back up from it" then they dont deserve to wear the Norwich shirt. Have a read of the quote in my sig below. Possibly the wisest thing a football manager has ever said and reflect this debate perfectly.

PS - Why are you not manager yet?

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Agreed.

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[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="BlueJam"][quote user="Strawberry"]

Don''t we all wish it was that simple. [/quote]

I don''t understand what you mean Strawberry? Do you approve of the quite frankly ridiculous moaning, or not?

Beauseant - Absa-ruddy-exactly [:)]

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lol you are moaning about people moaning, so that makes you a moaner too does it not? [:S]

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Yeah,but we''re moaning positively,lol!

[/quote]well - in a way B -  it could be argued that to moan at a perceived injustice/wrong is a relatively positive thing to do...but to moan with injurious/malicious intent is a purely negative act...so yeah - there are degrees of moaning,,,but clearly, in response to the op - the latter example is an example of individuals acting from self interest rather than with the best interests of the club at heart imo/,.

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[quote user="BlueJam"]I have to say this:

I''ve had a season ticket at City for more years than I care to remember. I''ve seen some good football, some bad football and some truely shocking football. But of late I''ve come to the conclusion that a lot of City fans are ruining the club from the inside, like a rotten apple.

Take Smudgers comments for example. He claims that we had no shots on target against QPR; well I saw several, perhaps he was in the bar or had his back to the pitch for 90 minutes? When it was pointed out that we did have shots on goal, he replies "well I didn''t see many", as though the fact we did have shots on goal didn''t really make any difference to the statement "we didn''t have any shots on goal". I don''t know what thats all about do you?

Several people think that because we had an indifferent performance on Wednesday that we are relagation materiel. Well Manchester united lost to Liverpool and only drew in the Champions League, I expect that Sir Alex has decided to scale down his operations in preperation for Championship football next season, and no European football ever again. I wish them all the best, because they are most certainly doomed, aren''t they?

The less I say about the prize plums that phone Neil Adams during Canary Call the better. The plonker on Wednesday stated that "It was an embarresment; the worst performance he has ever seen at Carrow Road..Blah blah blah". Where has this plonker been since we got relegated from the Premier League? I''d have given my hind teeth for a performance like that over the last three years. The Mr Plonker lives in a dream world. More irritating is the fact the Mr Plonker thinks he is right, when clearly he isn''t. He''s probably one of the same fickle plonkers who text in (to Canary Call) and say we will get automatic promotion after we performed so well against Birmingham.

Notice how after the good performances against Birmingham and Plymouth that Canary Call was struggling for moaners, I mean callers? Funny that.

On the subject of moaning about loan players. We haven''t got the money to buy lots of quality new players, so put up with it. Bertrand, Kennedy and Lupoli would cost just too much money, and yes they do the effort in.

Lets face facts here. City put in a below par performance on Wednesday, and failed to beat a 10 man QPR side, who looked a very good side I might add. We a match for them in the first half, and were unlucky to be a goal down (silly from Fozzy and Matty and probably bad goal keeping). But look at the bigger picture. We are playing some neat football, much better than the last few seasons, and yes, better than Worthington style football too. Perhaps not as effective yet, but it will come.

So morale of this post is : stop moaning, it''s sapping the life from us all.

/discuss.
[/quote]After wednesday i thought we had heard the end of the moaning but alas no. why o why are you moaning?[:#]

it is a message board you need different opions, how boring would it be if we said match after match how good the team played when they didnt.

 how are we going to get investers, if, as you belive the club is on the brink of distruction?[:P]

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So LGT - how can the two be distinguished if not by personal perception of the right or wrongness of the moan? Then, if this can only be distinguished only by personal perception - why can''t you appreciate that other peoples personal perceptions may differ from yours, and leave them be?

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Yes I agree that some people will never be satisfied but after 4 years of downward spiral and near constant struggle its understandable that some people are questioning this years team which if we''re being honest doesn''t look convincing although I admit its still early days!

 

From what I''ve seen of the team so far and I''ve only missed two games - Norwich are not far of having a side capable of seriously challenging the top of the table but at the moment we are powderpuff attack wise and unless this gets sorted we will struggle and Roeder will come under pressure.

 

We get to edge of the 18 yeard box and just stop. We haven''t got consistent wingers, Hoolahans not a wide player which means not much is being produced down the left and Croft rarely produces instead trying to run to the corner flag instead of simply crossing the ball in to the box. We''ve now got our strong targetman in Sibierski who Lupoli and Cureton can feed on in the box if planks like Croft can start putting more crosses in. We do not put enough pressure on the oppositions 6 yard box which is where most goals are scored. The release of Hucks who was still by far our best attacking player despite a below par season by his standards was ridiculous and no doubt flamed by Roeders personal feelings rather than a football move. Hucks would of made a big improvement to our attack this year.

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[quote user="astrodyne"]So LGT - how can the two be distinguished if not by personal perception of the right or wrongness of the moan? Then, if this can only be distinguished only by personal perception - why can''t you appreciate that other peoples personal perceptions may differ from yours, and leave them be?[/quote]astro - my point was - that the type of individual who maliciously stirs it up - is simply doing so for their own kicks - not cos they hold the best interests of NCFC dear to them...all message boards have these types of posters, irrespective of the subject matter - cos their intent is guided by the need to seek self-serving pleasure derived from perverse manipulation - in other words, they get their kicks outa deliberately winding up/dominating others...as for the rightness or wrongness of the moan, then clearly this is subjective - cos the interpretation rests with the individual concerned, one mans wrong could be another mans right, so thats not the issue (or mine) - but...by the same token, only the individual poster knows whether they are posting in the best interests of NCFC or for their own self serving agenda.,/

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agree 100%.

I think it''s an english/norfolk trait in alot of people to moan just about everything. I am myself a lower barclay season ticket holder, who will support my team whatever. Sure i came away from Wednesday dissapointed, and yes, i want investement etc etc. BUT what is not in my control, i will not moan about, and continue to support the 11 players on that pitch.

Where did moaning get anyone, anywhere? Nowhere

 

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No the english/norfolk trait is there are so many dumb asses in this country/county that will pu tup with anything.

You lot are the joke and why our football club and our country are both going to the dogs.

The reason why? 

You are too happy to sit back and do nothing while sitting in judgement of those who are happy to voice their concerns and who seek change.

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Blue Jam... the Ipswich fan???

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[quote user="BlueJam"][quote user="Strawberry"]

Don''t we all wish it was that simple. [/quote]

I don''t understand what you mean Strawberry? Do you approve of the quite frankly ridiculous moaning, or not?

Beauseant - Absa-ruddy-exactly [:)]

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Maoning is not ridulous... pricks like you who are quite happy to put up with a 4th season of underahcievement and absolute dross are extremely ridiculous.

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[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="BlueJam"][quote user="Strawberry"]

Don''t we all wish it was that simple. [/quote]

I don''t understand what you mean Strawberry? Do you approve of the quite frankly ridiculous moaning, or not?

Beauseant - Absa-ruddy-exactly [:)]

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Maoning is not ridulous... pricks like you who are quite happy to put up with a 4th season of underahcievement and absolute dross are extremely ridiculous.

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And the hot-bed of revolution that is Newcastle United - they''re over-acheiving as a result of the fan pressure there, are they ?  You know, Ashley''s a billionaire, Ashley puts in 20 million a season, they want him out on his derriere.  Is that Norwich Citys'' future ?  If you listen to some of the morons in here, it could be.

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[quote user="BlueJam"][quote user="Saint Canary"]Why can''t people moan on here and still support the 11 players on the pitch.  The two are not mutually exclusive and I would rather people post their frustrations here or on canary call rather than at CR[/quote]

But it''s moaning without having a sound basis to moan, it’s moaning with no real point. I refer again to Smudger who conveniently moaned that we had no shots on target, when we clearly did. I''m not singling out that, I just cant bring myself to read through and quote all the recent inaccurate and unfounded moaning because I''ll probably end up topping myself.

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We did not have any worthwhile shots then... instead of picking fault in the wording... maybe you could pick fault in the performance, team, club and it''s owners for once?

Did the QPR keeper have any shots to save or not?

He had a couple of back passes that I remember and that is about it.

I know that Roeder claims that Marshall hasn''t had a shot to save all season... funny that considering he has let 8 in during 6 league games.

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[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="BlueJam"][quote user="Strawberry"]

Don''t we all wish it was that simple. [/quote]

I don''t understand what you mean Strawberry? Do you approve of the quite frankly ridiculous moaning, or not?

Beauseant - Absa-ruddy-exactly [:)]

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Maoning is not ridulous... pricks like you who are quite happy to put up with a 4th season of underahcievement and absolute dross are extremely ridiculous.

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And the hot-bed of revolution that is Newcastle United - they''re over-acheiving as a result of the fan pressure there, are they ?  You know, Ashley''s a billionaire, Ashley puts in 20 million a season, they want him out on his derriere.  Is that Norwich Citys'' future ?  If you listen to some of the morons in here, it could be.

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Hardly overahcieving prior to Keegans return and Ashley being involved were they?

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According to BBC Sport we had 7 shots to their 1.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/live_text/5283052.stm

Most people that went noticed that we were slow in building up, and failed to break down their back 9.  Most of us realise that this isn''t good enough, and that we will have to improve.  But that''s not good enough for you, Smudger, you have to go so far out the other side of the reality of the situation that you start making stuff up, like we had no shots !

 

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[quote user="BlueJam"]barclay seats 48/49 - I''m not pompous, but I do have a higher moral standing :)

Seriously though, you''re not telling me that you enjoyed listening to whats-his-face on Wednesday night saying thats the worst performance he has ever seen? Comments like that negate anything valid he may have had to say. If I was Neil I''d hang up on most of the callers, especially ones like him (he was the sarcastic chap). There are loads like him every game. I wonder if I watch a different game to these people?
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Comments like that and some of what I heard by a couple coming out of the ground on Wednesday just go to prove that people like you do not have a clue what it takes to make a team that WINS football matches.  You don''t watch a different game Bluejam... like many on here you just do not have the first clue of what it takes to build a winning football team.

We are a million miles away from having a team that will challenge for the top 6 and people like you are getting exactly what you deserve.

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[quote user="blahblahblah"]

According to BBC Sport we had 7 shots to their 1.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/live_text/5283052.stm

Most people that went noticed that we were slow in building up, and failed to break down their back 9.  Most of us realise that this isn''t good enough, and that we will have to improve.  But that''s not good enough for you, Smudger, you have to go so far out the other side of the reality of the situation that you start making stuff up, like we had no shots !

 

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We didn''t... whoever saw 7 shots on target was watching a diffgerent game...

Illustrate these 7 great shots in detail for me to jog my memory... you can''t can you?

Did we have 7 passbacks?

So far somebdoy has reminded me that Fozzy had one shot on target with that weak free kick wwhich was turned easily around the post.

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[quote] like many on here you just do not have the first clue of what it takes to build a winning football team.[/quote]

Come on the Smudge, please tell us the magic formula that will turn us from Championship also-rans to undefeated mega-champions of the whole universe.

I''ll give you a clue, the answer isn''t Mandaric.

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[quote user="BlueJam"]Let''s deal with Arthur first. That one off season Arthur, I presume you mean the title winning year? Did you go to the games that year? I did. We won a lot of games by the odd goal, and won despite being outplayed on more than one occasion. It wasn''t that great, there was just a strength of belief around us at home, and we actually won games away from home. The two years before that we did OK too, but we never set the world on fire. I dare say the last time we were great was in 1993, but I''m afraid those days are long gone Arthur. Football has become more and more about money, and we have none. I don''t agree with our board over a lot of things, I just dont think they are as poisonous as you think they are. Anyway, I haven''t once suggested we shouldn''t be questioning our board, you made that bit up. Along with the ladder slipping thing, which is a laugh considering we''ve had one year in the premier league out of the last 12 or 13.  Was it you that rang Canary Call on Wednesday Arthur? Are you going to say "bring back Chrissy Martin! He scored again you know Neil!" In division 4, yes, he scored some goals. Well done.

On record Arthur, we are playing much better football this season than I have seen for a long while, and whilst healthy debate - like this thread was intended - is a good thing, people who haven''t a good word to say about the club aren''t doing us any favours, at least I know it makes me feel a more and more alienated from other City fans than it ever used too. I used to feel we were a solid "band of brothers" but these days I can''t even bare talking to a lot of our fans. 
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You feel more and more isolated because you are a prat who will watch this club destroyed from the sidelines...

While the tide is turning and more and more people are starting to see the wood for the trees.

The truth is out and Mr Cullum shown Delia and you lot who have sat in support of her for so long up for exactly what you are.

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[quote] like many on here you just do not have the first clue of what it takes to build a winning football team.[/quote]

Come on the Smudge, please tell us the magic formula that will turn us from Championship also-rans to undefeated mega-champions of the whole universe.

I''ll give you a clue, the answer isn''t Mandaric.

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The answer sure as hell ain''t Delia Smith blahblahblah... that has been tried, tested and proved over the last 12 years.

I would bet good money on Leicester by-passing us during the next couple of years if Delia hangs aboutg for much longer, as will Leeds undoubtedly also.

I forgot though... you are so obviously happy with another season of approx 16th place aren''t you?

There are more and more people who are sick of that though and who are quite happy to see us take a gamble in o0rder to move on.

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[quote user="John Boubepo"]So what we are saying is - one disastrous season after another - is all down to Smudger? - Sounds a tad simplistic to me!
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Clutching at straws aren''t they John??? [:D]

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[quote user="BlueJam"]I have to say this:

I''ve had a season ticket at City for more years than I care to remember. I''ve seen some good football, some bad football and some truely shocking football. But of late I''ve come to the conclusion that a lot of City fans are ruining the club from the inside, like a rotten apple.

Take Smudgers comments for example. He claims that we had no shots on target against QPR; well I saw several, perhaps he was in the bar or had his back to the pitch for 90 minutes? When it was pointed out that we did have shots on goal, he replies "well I didn''t see many", as though the fact we did have shots on goal didn''t really make any difference to the statement "we didn''t have any shots on goal". I don''t know what thats all about do you?

Several people think that because we had an indifferent performance on Wednesday that we are relagation materiel. Well Manchester united lost to Liverpool and only drew in the Champions League, I expect that Sir Alex has decided to scale down his operations in preperation for Championship football next season, and no European football ever again. I wish them all the best, because they are most certainly doomed, aren''t they?

The less I say about the prize plums that phone Neil Adams during Canary Call the better. The plonker on Wednesday stated that "It was an embarresment; the worst performance he has ever seen at Carrow Road..Blah blah blah". Where has this plonker been since we got relegated from the Premier League? I''d have given my hind teeth for a performance like that over the last three years. The Mr Plonker lives in a dream world. More irritating is the fact the Mr Plonker thinks he is right, when clearly he isn''t. He''s probably one of the same fickle plonkers who text in (to Canary Call) and say we will get automatic promotion after we performed so well against Birmingham.

Notice how after the good performances against Birmingham and Plymouth that Canary Call was struggling for moaners, I mean callers? Funny that.

On the subject of moaning about loan players. We haven''t got the money to buy lots of quality new players, so put up with it. Bertrand, Kennedy and Lupoli would cost just too much money, and yes they do the effort in.

Lets face facts here. City put in a below par performance on Wednesday, and failed to beat a 10 man QPR side, who looked a very good side I might add. We a match for them in the first half, and were unlucky to be a goal down (silly from Fozzy and Matty and probably bad goal keeping). But look at the bigger picture. We are playing some neat football, much better than the last few seasons, and yes, better than Worthington style football too. Perhaps not as effective yet, but it will come.

So morale of this post is : stop moaning, it''s sapping the life from us all.

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last bit first. "discuss" such a posy really up yourself comment, really hate it when posters like you end your sermon with "discuss"

Secondly City supporters destroying the club? how could you possibly be more wrong? did you fail to notice we had 24000+ again on Wednesday night?

We were sh*te on Wednesday, absolutely dire, total rubbish. there is nothing good to be said about the QPR game, we were as bad in that one as we were good against Brum.

Absolutely laughable to compare our miserable defeat against QPR to Man U in the Champions League. What are you on?

Totally agree about Canary Call, but there are plenty of plonkers on there who love mediocrity, just the sort that you sound like.

Check mine (and other realist) posts after the Brum game and you will see plenty of positive posts.

Do you know something? the people who are in danger of destroying this club are exactly like YOU. Look in the mirror and you will see someone who accepts mediocrity, accepts any spin that comes out of the Boardroom, is happy to be taken for a mug, happy to accept no money for players, thinks it''s his duty to stick up for poor defencless Auntie D, thinks that Kneel Donkey is doing a grand job. In short you are a traitor to this great club. Now repent, get real, or get lost.

Oh, and you''re a real city fan, with Blue as part of your user name? Binner by any chance?

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Bluejam "we have not got lots of money to buy quality new players,so put up with it"

We all have expectations ,some higher than is realistic i will agree but for goodness sake i find that attitude appalling.

[/quote]Well said tilly. Its the very same attitude that will take us further back.[/quote]

So we can magic some money out of thin air? I''m being pragmatic when I look at the situation, I wish we had more money but we don''t, so what can we do? The appalling attitude I display is certainly cause for concern, I need to re adjust to the obsesive compulisve negativity that you lot seem to have.

If anyones attitude is appalling, it''s yours.

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What for wanting something better and finally being willing to do something about it?

Don''t you think that Mr Tilson and NCISA have listened to fools like you for quite long enough over the last 3 years???  [:$]