Something you should know about GNG

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

There are only 12 people at Carrow Road with internet access on a day to day basis, all of the computers are networked. Any possibility of somebody leaking information of any sort would be investigated immediately, it is possible to delete your history from your desktop at a click of a button. It is however not possible to delete your history from the server. Proxy surfers are also banned and blocked on the internet.

After controversy surrounding non playing staff apparently leaving for having ''too much to say'', I can categorically state that GNG would not still be sitting at his desk this morning if he was using carrow road computers to post sensitive information on the well known pink un forum. It has been confirmed to me by an employee at carrow road that the club are aware of the situation and that it was initially the subject of gossip (or even concern that somebody was betraying colleagues) but had moved quickly to confirm that no club computers were used to post on this forum and that all club employees have been banned from posting on it for some time.

Therefore unfortunately, or not suprisingly, you are being lead up the garden path if you believe this man. Even if in the unlikely event that he is a club employee, he should be dismissed immediately for gross misconduct. It is not in the interests of anybody involved with the club, even the fans, for sensitive information to be made available on the internet.

I was also told that irrespective of whether or not some of his information has been accurate, there is one major piece of news that he would have known about if he was genuine. This piece of news is a deal sorted yonks ago, on the dotted line, medical passed, his shirt is even printed and everybody that would have general internet access at Carrow Road (like i said thats 12 people) are aware of this signing and have been for at least two weeks.

So, what the hell do you have to say to that Gordon? I suggest that you find a life that involves a little bit more social activity and a little less time making up ridiculous lies.

That is all.

 

[Good News Gordon 0]

And the only way that I can access the internet is through the main system, um modern technology is a wonderful thing

[Inch High aka Inchy.. 417]

Thanks Ryank. Good post.

[nu_matik 184]

aren''t you contradicting yrself?

i mean you talking about the situation and platyers etc, while being an employee im guessing?!

do correct me if im wrong,im not having a pop.

[Mark Smith 0]

He''d be pretty stupid to use office machines, yeah. But that doesn''t mean he can''t use a mobile phone or something.

[Canary Ascent 0]

[quote user="ryank"]

There are only 12 people at Carrow Road with internet access on a day to day basis, all of the computers are networked. Any possibility of somebody leaking information of any sort would be investigated immediately, it is possible to delete your history from your desktop at a click of a button. It is however not possible to delete your history from the server. Proxy surfers are also banned and blocked on the internet.

After controversy surrounding non playing staff apparently leaving for having ''too much to say'', I can categorically state that GNG would not still be sitting at his desk this morning if he was using carrow road computers to post sensitive information on the well known pink un forum. It has been confirmed to me by an employee at carrow road that the club are aware of the situation and that it was initially the subject of gossip (or even concern that somebody was betraying colleagues) but had moved quickly to confirm that no club computers were used to post on this forum and that all club employees have been banned from posting on it for some time.

Therefore unfortunately, or not suprisingly, you are being lead up the garden path if you believe this man. Even if in the unlikely event that he is a club employee, he should be dismissed immediately for gross misconduct. It is not in the interests of anybody involved with the club, even the fans, for sensitive information to be made available on the internet.

I was also told that irrespective of whether or not some of his information has been accurate, there is one major piece of news that he would have known about if he was genuine. This piece of news is a deal sorted yonks ago, on the dotted line, medical passed, his shirt is even printed and everybody that would have general internet access at Carrow Road (like i said thats 12 people) are aware of this signing and have been for at least two weeks.

So, what the hell do you have to say to that Gordon? I suggest that you find a life that involves a little bit more social activity and a little less time making up ridiculous lies.

That is all.

 

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And the ''deal sorted yonks ago'' is...

Obviously no need to keep this quiet any longer [8-)]

[Hog 0]

I tried using a mobile once while on holiday, absolute nightmare I can tell you!

[N.Ireland Canary 0]

I for one think GNG is full of C#*p.

Nothing he has said has actually happened,

If I said that I worked for NCFC and mentioned that there will definately be a new signing this week, chuck in a few names which have already being mentioned, get lucky if one of them was right. Would you all believe me? 

 

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

[quote user="nu_matik"]

aren''t you contradicting yrself?

i mean you talking about the situation and platyers etc, while being an employee im guessing?!

do correct me if im wrong,im not having a pop.

[/quote]

No im not an employee, I was until three years ago, it has just been confirmed to me by somebody that would know this information. I felt that it was appropriate for me to pass this on, unfortunately I cant be too specific with the persons name as it was off the record and he is a friend. I didnt even ask him who we have signed, its not my business until the club feel able to announce it. I will also add that people are being a little unreasonable with expecting signings to be announced immediately, and would do well to remember that the selling club can decide not to make a transfer public whilst a player is contracted to them, normally as to not unsettle their own fans until a replacement or a signing has been made by themselves, players can also decide that they do not want press attention until they have arrived at the club. No player is our player until 1st July, that is why Sammy Clingan hasnt been photographed with a city shirt yet - his wages are still being paid by Forest until the last day of this calender month. I hope that you see where I am coming from with this.

[Mark Smith 0]

[quote user="ryank"][quote user="nu_matik"]

aren''t you contradicting yrself?

i mean you talking about the situation and platyers etc, while being an employee im guessing?!

do correct me if im wrong,im not having a pop.

[/quote]

No im not an employee, I was until three years ago, it has just been confirmed to me by somebody that would know this information. I felt that it was appropriate for me to pass this on, unfortunately I cant be too specific with the persons name as it was off the record and he is a friend. I didnt even ask him who we have signed, its not my business until the club feel able to announce it. I will also add that people are being a little unreasonable with expecting signings to be announced immediately, and would do well to remember that the selling club can decide not to make a transfer public whilst a player is contracted to them, normally as to not unsettle their own fans until a replacement or a signing has been made by themselves, players can also decide that they do not want press attention until they have arrived at the club. No player is our player until 1st July, that is why Sammy Clingan hasnt been photographed with a city shirt yet - his wages are still being paid by Forest until the last day of this calender month. I hope that you see where I am coming from with this.

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Which is exactly why it''s unreasonable for people to expect Gordon or anyone who''s (allegedly) in the know to be able to give the exact date/time/millisecond that someone is going to sign. There are probably hundreds of different factors that go into releasing that information.

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

[quote user="Mark Smith"]He''d be pretty stupid to use office machines, yeah. But that doesn''t mean he can''t use a mobile phone or something.[/quote]

Yes, I also mentioned this. He made the point that GNG would have to be slipping off to the toilet every few minutes to write on his phone, I dont know how many of you have worked in offices, but it is pretty clear when people are using a mobile phone a lot or going to the toilet every 5 minutes. Im sorry to break it to you if you do believe him, but he would have been sussed, there really arent many full time employees at the football club, and like I said everybody was concerned that there could be a traitor in the ranks. People were vigilant and worried, it would have been more than apparent by now and the club are satisfied that GNG is not anybody based at Carrow Road.  Remember, he may well have got a couple of things right (read into that what you will), but if he knew this for certain then there would also be something else he would have known for certain too, and I dont know what this is myself but i think we all have a good enough idea already!

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

[quote user="Mark Smith"][quote user="ryank"][quote user="nu_matik"]

aren''t you contradicting yrself?

i mean you talking about the situation and platyers etc, while being an employee im guessing?!

do correct me if im wrong,im not having a pop.

[/quote]

No im not an employee, I was until three years ago, it has just been confirmed to me by somebody that would know this information. I felt that it was appropriate for me to pass this on, unfortunately I cant be too specific with the persons name as it was off the record and he is a friend. I didnt even ask him who we have signed, its not my business until the club feel able to announce it. I will also add that people are being a little unreasonable with expecting signings to be announced immediately, and would do well to remember that the selling club can decide not to make a transfer public whilst a player is contracted to them, normally as to not unsettle their own fans until a replacement or a signing has been made by themselves, players can also decide that they do not want press attention until they have arrived at the club. No player is our player until 1st July, that is why Sammy Clingan hasnt been photographed with a city shirt yet - his wages are still being paid by Forest until the last day of this calender month. I hope that you see where I am coming from with this.

[/quote]

Which is exactly why it''s unreasonable for people to expect Gordon or anyone who''s (allegedly) in the know to be able to give the exact date/time/millisecond that someone is going to sign. There are probably hundreds of different factors that go into releasing that information.[/quote]

GNG isnt involved with the club, I can state that as a matter of fact. Its just that a few of you are far too stupid to see it, the same people that probably read the Daily Star for their current affairs. Right I have to get back to work, unlike GNG ;-)

[TheCardinal 0]

Bet the signing that is signed, sealed and delivered is Wes Hoolahan.

[Evil Monkey 52]

Problem is, GNG put his neck on the line and stated that there would be

signings last week, particularly the "two on Thursday"... now he

obviously claims that this is down to other factors and that nothing is

set in stone.  Yet if he knows this to be the case, then why did

he post such specific dates and numbers in the first place, without any

form of caveat until after the date had passed.

I agree he''s on a wind-up and has been from the start, either that or

he''s exaggerating his position within the club and making predictions

he has no place to...

[Hog 0]

I presume you are talking about Wes Hoolahan, the player that loads of people claim has already signed for us.

[Mark Smith 0]

[quote user="ryank"][quote user="Mark Smith"][quote user="ryank"][quote user="nu_matik"]

aren''t you contradicting yrself?

i mean you talking about the situation and platyers etc, while being an employee im guessing?!

do correct me if im wrong,im not having a pop.

[/quote]

No im not an employee, I was until three years ago, it has just been confirmed to me by somebody that would know this information. I felt that it was appropriate for me to pass this on, unfortunately I cant be too specific with the persons name as it was off the record and he is a friend. I didnt even ask him who we have signed, its not my business until the club feel able to announce it. I will also add that people are being a little unreasonable with expecting signings to be announced immediately, and would do well to remember that the selling club can decide not to make a transfer public whilst a player is contracted to them, normally as to not unsettle their own fans until a replacement or a signing has been made by themselves, players can also decide that they do not want press attention until they have arrived at the club. No player is our player until 1st July, that is why Sammy Clingan hasnt been photographed with a city shirt yet - his wages are still being paid by Forest until the last day of this calender month. I hope that you see where I am coming from with this.

[/quote]

Which is exactly why it''s unreasonable for people to expect Gordon or anyone who''s (allegedly) in the know to be able to give the exact date/time/millisecond that someone is going to sign. There are probably hundreds of different factors that go into releasing that information.[/quote]

GNG isnt involved with the club, I can state that as a matter of fact. Its just that a few of you are far too stupid to see it, the same people that probably read the Daily Star for their current affairs. Right I have to get back to work, unlike GNG ;-)

[/quote]

For the record, I don''t believe him. I''m merely playing ''devils advocate'' here. But I feel people (not you) are missing the point. Yes, he got Thursdays sigings wrong BUT SO DID ROEDER. Roeder said on Tuesday that we might get a few more on Thursday. What''s really shown GNG as a scammer is his "Shola''s in the building" thread, which he still hasn''t given me an answer for.

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

[quote user="Evil Monkey"]Problem is, GNG put his neck on the line and stated that there would be signings last week, particularly the "two on Thursday"... now he obviously claims that this is down to other factors and that nothing is set in stone.  Yet if he knows this to be the case, then why did he post such specific dates and numbers in the first place, without any form of caveat until after the date had passed.

I agree he''s on a wind-up and has been from the start, either that or he''s exaggerating his position within the club and making predictions he has no place to...

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Unfortunately (or should i say fortunately) he doesnt have a position within the club at all. A logical explanation would be that he lived in one of the flats next to the ground, or works for the housing association in the jarrold stand, his information suggests that he has seen one or two things at the ground, such as seeing a player, and then making up dates and details. This is the conclusion that genuine club employees have come to. One or two things he has said could yet be accurate but far off being done deals, like I will continue to repeat but to no further depth, he would have known something very specific if he was an insider.  In case anybody is interested I worked at the club between 1999 until our relegation from the premier league, therefore i know enough to have an idea of whats going on inside, now i suggest that you all wait until 1st July if you are hoping for a big signing, this is one weeks time for christs sake. NOBODY CAN BE OUR PLAYER UNTIL THIS DATE, A PRE CONTRACT DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY GIVE THE CLUB THE AUTHORITY TO ANNOUNCE THE TRANSFER.

[N.Ireland Canary 0]

Having spoken to someone, I have been told that a company feels that confidential information is being leaked onto public forums like this. They can request from the forums host various information for example IP addresses and mobile information.

This is something that is done on all forums to ensure maximum security is held all of the time.

There can be 2 scenarios which can happen in this case.

1. The stuff GNG is posting is all rubbish and NCFC isnt bothered about it.

2. NCFC will have found out by now exactly where the info is coming from by contacting administrators at the pink''un. And would have put a stop to it.

 

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

[quote user="fungate02"]

Having spoken to someone, I have been told that a company feels that confidential information is being leaked onto public forums like this. They can request from the forums host various information for example IP addresses and mobile information.

This is something that is done on all forums to ensure maximum security is held all of the time.

There can be 2 scenarios which can happen in this case.

1. The stuff GNG is posting is all rubbish and NCFC isnt bothered about it.

2. NCFC will have found out by now exactly where the info is coming from by contacting administrators at the pink''un. And would have put a stop to it.

 

[/quote]

Spot on mate, exactly my point, they have satisfied themselves that their new look ship is watertight (read into that what you like) and that GNG is an idiot.

[Hog 0]

And quick as a flash Gordon was gone.....

[First Wazzock 1,010]

[quote user="Salahuddin"]I tried using a mobile once while on holiday, absolute nightmare I can tell you![/quote]

What ? To post on here ?? [:D]

[Hog 0]

No just to try and read the message board was hard enough!

[N.Ireland Canary 0]

I take it GNG isn''t going to try and argue this one then?

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="fungate02"]

Having spoken to someone, I have been told that a company feels that confidential information is being leaked onto public forums like this. They can request from the forums host various information for example IP addresses and mobile information.

This is something that is done on all forums to ensure maximum security is held all of the time.

There can be 2 scenarios which can happen in this case.

1. The stuff GNG is posting is all rubbish and NCFC isnt bothered about it.

2. NCFC will have found out by now exactly where the info is coming from by contacting administrators at the pink''un. And would have put a stop to it.

 

[/quote]

they wouldnt even need to do that... just check the Server logs for any internet usage when GNG has been about, and check what sites have been surfed too.... if he has sent any email from that address as all outgoing (and incoming, the registration email for example) is scanned can they not be used as a way of ID''ing someone too....

 all the I T bod at Carrow road has to do is check the server reports and the jobs done....

if its from an outside source, eg GNG''s home computer then they need to persure it another way.

jas :)

[AndyJR 0]

Of course GNG might in fact work for the NCFC marketing department, but that would mean football clubs deliberately release gossip as to maybe keep the fans excited or maybe steer their thoughts away from the truth.  Would football do such a thing?

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

[quote user="AndyJR"]Of course GNG might in fact work for the NCFC marketing department, but that would mean football clubs deliberately release gossip as to maybe keep the fans excited or maybe steer their thoughts away from the truth.  Would football do such a thing?
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Do you really think that the club would lie about a 3.5 million pound player, only to then come out and reveal that they dont have that kind of money and to put more pressure on the board to find new investment? Its not like the marketing department have to encourage any more season ticket sales as we have sold out, and the only way they sell more shirts is to actually sign and reveal a new signing. Marketing shouldnt be confused too much with public relations, they are in essence different things, albeit closely interlinked and related.

[AndyJR 0]

[quote user="ryank"]

[quote user="AndyJR"]Of course GNG might in fact work for the NCFC marketing department, but that would mean football clubs deliberately release gossip as to maybe keep the fans excited or maybe steer their thoughts away from the truth.  Would football do such a thing? [/quote]

Do you really think that the club would lie about a 3.5 million pound player, only to then come out and reveal that they dont have that kind of money and to put more pressure on the board to find new investment? Its not like the marketing department have to encourage any more season ticket sales as we have sold out, and the only way they sell more shirts is to actually sign and reveal a new signing. Marketing shouldnt be confused too much with public relations, they are in essence different things, albeit closely interlinked and related.

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''Interlinked and related''.  That clears it up then.  Thankyou.

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

[quote user="AndyJR"][quote user="ryank"]

[quote user="AndyJR"]Of course GNG might in fact work for the NCFC marketing department, but that would mean football clubs deliberately release gossip as to maybe keep the fans excited or maybe steer their thoughts away from the truth.  Would football do such a thing?
[/quote]

Do you really think that the club would lie about a 3.5 million pound player, only to then come out and reveal that they dont have that kind of money and to put more pressure on the board to find new investment? Its not like the marketing department have to encourage any more season ticket sales as we have sold out, and the only way they sell more shirts is to actually sign and reveal a new signing. Marketing shouldnt be confused too much with public relations, they are in essence different things, albeit closely interlinked and related.

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''Interlinked and related''.  That clears it up then.  Thankyou.

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Definition of ''Marketing'' - The way a business organization identifies its customers, defines and develops the products or services that its customers want, and sells and distributes those products or services to customers.

Definition of ''Public Relations'' - The efforts involved in developing a positive relationship with the public, with the goal of getting the public to view your organization in a positive light.

I would hope that you understand now Andy?

 

[AndyJR 0]

[quote user="ryank"][quote user="AndyJR"][quote user="ryank"]

[quote user="AndyJR"]Of course GNG might in fact work for the NCFC marketing department, but that would mean football clubs deliberately release gossip as to maybe keep the fans excited or maybe steer their thoughts away from the truth.  Would football do such a thing? [/quote]

Do you really think that the club would lie about a 3.5 million pound player, only to then come out and reveal that they dont have that kind of money and to put more pressure on the board to find new investment? Its not like the marketing department have to encourage any more season ticket sales as we have sold out, and the only way they sell more shirts is to actually sign and reveal a new signing. Marketing shouldnt be confused too much with public relations, they are in essence different things, albeit closely interlinked and related.

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''Interlinked and related''.  That clears it up then.  Thankyou.[/quote]

Definition of ''Marketing'' - The way a business organization identifies its customers, defines and develops the products or services that its customers want, and sells and distributes those products or services to customers.

Definition of ''Public Relations'' - The efforts involved in developing a positive relationship with the public, with the goal of getting the public to view your organization in a positive light.

I would hope that you understand now Andy?

 

[/quote]As I said, you had cleared it up nicely by your previous post but I thank you for the additional info.

[James Kent 0]

Well this thread is very interesting although a bit pointless.  My two cent states that of course your right that anyone leaking transfer news to message boards would not keep a position with the club very long.  That said its important we make a disticition between gossip and inside information and decide if any sensitive info has actually been leaked.  Of course GNG could use other means away from the main network such as mobile phone or a laptop with a different means of connecting such as mobile broadband.  Also its possible his comments come from home use and/or use away from the club in his breaks he could use the library for instance. 

As for you Ryank I find some of your comments amusing.  First of all you have stated there is a player signed, sealed and delivered, but you don''t know who it is.  So how could you possible know if GNG knows about this player or not.  As stated tranfers are complicted and just becuase players haven''t arrived doesn''t mean GNG is lying.  In fact until these players sign elseware he has lost nothing.  So if these players eventually sign for Norwich then will we give GNG credit?