BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted May 3, 2008 Glenn Roeder on ambition, goals and benchmarks in an interview with Chris Lacey:“Of course it is,” he said. “You have to set yourself goals and you have to stretch yourself and if I''m saying that a club like Norwich City need to be in the Premiership that is the truth, and we need to do it in the two or three years, that is also the truth.“I don''t want anyone in this club playing in the comfort zone, whether that is on the pitch or off the pitch, and that includes all my staff.“We need to stretch ourselves, I need to be stretched, and you have to set yourself targets, difficult targets, and then when you achieve them it is very fulfilling and you get a great feeling.Will the board stech themselves too?They are off to a good start with the Aviva sponsorship deal it seems. I think we have the right manager. Are the board up to it?This summer is likely to turn out to be a real tipping point in the clubs history.Which way will we tip?Only time will tell.OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 8,034 Posted May 3, 2008 Looking at their formlines I wouldn''t bet too much on it Bly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mud Man 0 Posted May 3, 2008 I fear that Roeder doesn''t have many players that meet his own lofty standards, let alone a board. I predict that not only Huckerby but Fotheringham, Doherty, Martin and Shackell will all leave. Cave-Brown, Halliday, both of the Jarvis brothers, Smart and Bexfield will all go. Roeder definitely deserves plaudits for rescuing Norwich from last place in the Championship with just 8 points from 13 games. He set us off on a good run but in the end of it was touch and go. I sense an unhappiness in the changing room and that Roeder has a need to eradicate any signs of previous regimes and install his own. That is all very well but in the process he will rip the heart of the club out with very few players having any links with Norwich. No doubt we will be become Newcastle Lite. Team Nat From To Record P W L D Win % Gillingham August 1, 1992 July 9, 1993 51 13 22 16 25.49 Watford August 1, 1993 February 20, 1996 139 44 55 40 31.65 West Ham United May 9, 2001 August 24, 2003 86 27 36 23 31.39 Newcastle United February 2, 2006 May 6, 2007 72 33 24 15 45.83 Norwich City October 30, 2007 Present 31 12 10 9 38.71 Just a reminder of his management record. He''s certainly getting better, but he''s no Paul Ince. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna Grey 0 Posted May 3, 2008 No Paul Ince? Two words - Macclesfield Town..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mud Man 0 Posted May 3, 2008 Good point. I was thinking more of his MK Dons time rather than Macclesfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted May 3, 2008 Question.If push comes to shove and there is a disagreement between Roeder and the board as early as this summer/autumn about the level of player investment required to fund his plans and goals, who will City supporters line up behind? Roeder or the board? Or will there be apathy?I notice that Liverpool supporters have lined up pretty solidly behind Benitez, for example.OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur Whittle 0 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote user="bunny"]No Paul Ince? Two words - Macclesfield Town.....[/quote]Yes i would say saving Macclesfield who were nearly 20 points off 2nd from bottom when he took over and guiding them to 3rd from bottom is a pretty good achievement, hence why he was offered the Mk Dons job-the biggest club in that league. Dont let facts get in the way though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeCanary 0 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Question.If push comes to shove and there is a disagreement between Roeder and the board as early as this summer/autumn about the level of player investment required to fund his plans and goals, who will City supporters line up behind? Roeder or the board? Or will there be apathy?I notice that Liverpool supporters have lined up pretty solidly behind Benitez, for example.OTBC[/quote]Better Question:If there is agreement between Roeder and the Board as early as this summer/autumn on how Roeder''s goals are being funded, how about we all start to behave positively and provide full support in the way we cheer, the way we think, the way we write etc etc. Or will there be apathy in some quarters even if Glenn and the Board are totally aligned? I don''t know about the rest of you but I have to say I''ve been very impressed with the Derby supporters when observing their games this year despite their dismal year. I think that could give all and sundry at Derby a leg up going into next season versus what a lot of relegated teams can experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote user="YankeeCanary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Question.If push comes to shove and there is a disagreement between Roeder and the board as early as this summer/autumn about the level of player investment required to fund his plans and goals, who will City supporters line up behind? Roeder or the board? Or will there be apathy?I notice that Liverpool supporters have lined up pretty solidly behind Benitez, for example.OTBC[/quote]Better Question:If there is agreement between Roeder and the Board as early as this summer/autumn on how Roeder''s goals are being funded, how about we all start to behave positively and provide full support in the way we cheer, the way we think, the way we write etc etc. Or will there be apathy in some quarters even if Glenn and the Board are totally aligned? I don''t know about the rest of you but I have to say I''ve been very impressed with the Derby supporters when observing their games this year despite their dismal year. I think that could give all and sundry at Derby a leg up going into next season versus what a lot of relegated teams can experience.[/quote]You mean, like the NCFC support, who (despite the last 4 dismal years) - still turn up in their droves? "And who, actually cares about apathy?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeCanary 0 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="YankeeCanary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Question.If push comes to shove and there is a disagreement between Roeder and the board as early as this summer/autumn about the level of player investment required to fund his plans and goals, who will City supporters line up behind? Roeder or the board? Or will there be apathy?I notice that Liverpool supporters have lined up pretty solidly behind Benitez, for example.OTBC[/quote]Better Question:If there is agreement between Roeder and the Board as early as this summer/autumn on how Roeder''s goals are being funded, how about we all start to behave positively and provide full support in the way we cheer, the way we think, the way we write etc etc. Or will there be apathy in some quarters even if Glenn and the Board are totally aligned? I don''t know about the rest of you but I have to say I''ve been very impressed with the Derby supporters when observing their games this year despite their dismal year. I think that could give all and sundry at Derby a leg up going into next season versus what a lot of relegated teams can experience.[/quote]You mean, like the NCFC support, who (despite the last 4 dismal years) - still turn up in their droves? "And who, actually cares about apathy?"[/quote]Sounds like you and I are aligned Mello as I too have very little time for apathy. With respect to Derby supporters, to keep cheering ( which they clearly appear to be doing ) when they have the lowest points total ever in the top tier and only one win against a demoralised Newcastle early in the season, I''d say they had a lot more to commiserate about versus the results that Norwich achieved in 2004/05. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wembley_Canary 0 Posted May 3, 2008 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Question.If push comes to shove and there is a disagreement between Roeder and the board as early as this summer/autumn about the level of player investment required to fund his plans and goals, who will City supporters line up behind? Roeder or the board? Or will there be apathy?I notice that Liverpool supporters have lined up pretty solidly behind Benitez, for example.OTBC [/quote] If Roeder is still doing a good job up untill that point then I personally would back Roeder over the Board, although it could depend on the circumstances at the time. Sadly I feel that Delia has a far too big a fan club for the majority of Norwich fans to back our manager over the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucky green trainers 0 Posted May 4, 2008 well - roedy and the smiths looked smiley and chuffed to bits at the aviva sponsorship launch. unless it was BS for the cameras - my feeling is AVIVA have stumped up a fair wedge, and given incentives for success that have encouraged investors on the city board to put money in for a semi-credible punt at the prem. clearly, if they have any brains - roedy and his backroom boys will have told the board that significant investment is needed - especially after our near disasterous jan window dealings - that arguably destabilised the squad to such an extent we went back into the relegation pot again.i could be wrong - but my feeling is - the aviva money could be worth £1.5m - with add ons - a season, and that the smiths and turners have each matched this - giving roedy a budget of £4-6m to play with each season, and £15 in total over his 3 year plan. lets be honest - this sum has to be the minimum - and roedy and his backroom boys are serious footy men - they surely wouldn''t settle for anything else. saving city from relegation has restored roedys profile - but he knows that if he wants a job job in footy again - getting city up, or into the top 6 is a must - especially to squash his 2nd season failure reputation.lets face it - even with £5m - we would rank only as a mid-table team on paper. its what roedy and his men can do to get players in that they can work with to gel, overperform and hopefully present a top 6 challenge in this league. its what we did in our promotion season - its whats on offer again folks in my view. so yeah - i reckon the city board will stretch themselves (to a degree) - but because they know they must - given our flirtation with relegation this season - anything less would be reckless. so, imo - expect more than not enough, but less than too much!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carlos Valderrama 0 Posted May 4, 2008 [quote user="ricardo"]Looking at their formlines I wouldn''t bet too much on it Bly.[/quote]Thats the good thing about form Ricardo. You can use it to make an educated guess but every now and then you get a suprise that goes against what is predicted. Heres to living in hope.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taxing 0 Posted May 4, 2008 Why does anybody think that the Board will behave any differently from previous seasons ? No hope I tell you, we''re doomed, doomed for another season of sh!te. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted May 4, 2008 [quote user="Crikey..and with the outside of his foot"]Why does anybody think that the Board will behave any differently from previous seasons ? No hope I tell you, we''re doomed, doomed for another season of sh!te.[/quote]The airlock''s open, Marvin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taxing 0 Posted May 4, 2008 Will the NCFC BOard strecth themselves ? My answer to that is "Martin Taylor" , how different things might have turned out if they had gone that extra metre and bought Taylor. Leopards don''t change their spots and sadly our Board won''t won''t serve up any nice surprises either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted May 4, 2008 [quote user="lucky green trainers"]well - roedy and the smiths looked smiley and chuffed to bits at the aviva sponsorship launch. unless it was BS for the cameras - my feeling is AVIVA have stumped up a fair wedge, and given incentives for success that have encouraged investors on the city board to put money in for a semi-credible punt at the prem. clearly, if they have any brains - roedy and his backroom boys will have told the board that significant investment is needed - especially after our near disasterous jan window dealings - that arguably destabilised the squad to such an extent we went back into the relegation pot again.i could be wrong - but my feeling is - the aviva money could be worth £1.5m - with add ons - a season, and that the smiths and turners have each matched this - giving roedy a budget of £4-6m to play with each season, and £15 in total over his 3 year plan. lets be honest - this sum has to be the minimum - and roedy and his backroom boys are serious footy men - they surely wouldn''t settle for anything else. saving city from relegation has restored roedys profile - but he knows that if he wants a job job in footy again - getting city up, or into the top 6 is a must - especially to squash his 2nd season failure reputation.lets face it - even with £5m - we would rank only as a mid-table team on paper. its what roedy and his men can do to get players in that they can work with to gel, overperform and hopefully present a top 6 challenge in this league. its what we did in our promotion season - its whats on offer again folks in my view. so yeah - i reckon the city board will stretch themselves (to a degree) - but because they know they must - given our flirtation with relegation this season - anything less would be reckless. so, imo - expect more than not enough, but less than too much!!![/quote]Singular?We must be careful not to rewrite history on this board.lgt, you are hereby sternly reprimanded on behalf of nn![;)]OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City Devil 0 Posted May 4, 2008 Couldn''t agree more! One of the worst decisions of the season along with the trip to Spain!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-4-1 0 Posted May 4, 2008 We have some excellent talent, Russell, Marshall, Chadwick in particular so we need a bit of luck, some hard work and some imaginative signings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 547 Posted May 4, 2008 and this board to get off their collective arses and show some competence for a change in terms of the squad. If we go into next season with anything like what we have now it will be ''League One here We Come!!'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites