One thing we surely all agree on

[Hardhouse44 289]

We need at least 2 new strikers next season.We can''t hope to go forward with Cureton as first choice.This is not a personal attack as some will try and make out. It plain fact the guy is not the required standard to take us forward. Misses chances galore but as was so clearly demonstrated today to if he doesn''t score he offers nothing. When Ched came on he we sharper more mobile much more of a physical threat and his all round work rate was better. I have no problem with him coming on from the bench we need back up but Roeder must surely be looking for a strike partnership for next season that is going to contribute more goals and more assists.It a cliché to say a striker need to many chances. I agree what I don''t think you can argue with is the other fact. No goal from Jamie means no contribution to the match.

[A Load of Squit 6,260]

I disagree.

 

[Huddy 0]

Agreed!

 

[First Wizard 0]

I can''t go with this.

We all slagged of Brown................now he''s gone, he''s started scoring, Curo will be the same, he''s one short of 200 career goals for Gawds sake!.

Its more about the number of chances we create.

There''s not enough of them!.

[Hardhouse44 289]

[quote user="1st Wizard"]

I can''t go with this.

We all slagged of Brown................now he''s gone, he''s started scoring, Curo will be the same, he''s one short of 200 career goals for Gawds sake!.

Its more about the number of chances we create.

There''s not enough of them!.

[/quote]Wiz if you were there yesterday you''d see we created a hat-full of chances (as we did against Bristol) we didn''t score enough in relation to chances made and Jamie missed 2 very good chances.

[ca 1]

[quote user="1st Wizard"]

I can''t go with this.

We all slagged of Brown................now he''s gone, he''s started scoring, Curo will be the same, he''s one short of 200 career goals for Gawds sake!.

Its more about the number of chances we create.

There''s not enough of them!.

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To be fair we created loads of chances yesterday and should have had at least 5 goals from various people.

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Hardhouse44"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

I can''t go with this.

We all slagged of Brown................now he''s gone, he''s started scoring, Curo will be the same, he''s one short of 200 career goals for Gawds sake!.

Its more about the number of chances we create.

There''s not enough of them!.

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Wiz if you were there yesterday you''d see we created a hat-full of chances (as we did against Bristol) we didn''t score enough in relation to chances made and Jamie missed 2 very good chances.
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I take your point Hardhouse, I really do, but it isn''t always down to JC is it?

How many goals have Croft, Rusty, Patterson, Hucks and the rest contributed?....they have to their bit as well, and plainly they''re not.

[The Voice of the Thorpe Area 0]

Completely agree!

My faint hopes of Dion doing a u-turn in the summer looks unlikely, so we need a strong, big guy up there.

Curo is not the answer up front. We need a strike man.

[Sing Up The South Stand 0]

Wiz if anyone else had missed the chances jamie had (and scored 14 goals this season) you would have slaughtered them, but when it''s your saintly cureton he can do anything he likes! 

[Buncey 1]

I''m sorry hardhouse but I just can''t agree with any of this.Cureton caused the burnley defence problems all game. His run was what started the 1st goal and he just couldn''t squeeze the pass out. Even if he did, people would still say he didn''t do anything for the team. Unfortunately he''s run into the earnie syndrome, whereby no matter how much off the ball work and movement he does, he will not get recognition because he''s small and a poacher. If you go back and look at how many runs hux got, that''s in part because cureton kept taking his marker away from huckerby.As for missing his chances, yes he missed some and I was completely gutted for the poor lad. Everytime he misses you can see how much it hurts him. He doesn''t miss on purpose, he just has so much pressure on him. Not only from the team, but from the fans and himself. Ultimately I think it''s his loyalty and fierce love of the club that has weighed down on him. Just the added pressure makes it harder for him.Ched missed in my opinion an easier chance, another chance and messed up a two yard pass. In my opinion apart from the goal in the last minute, ched didn''t really add much.If cureton does go in the summer, which I think he is destined to now, then he will score goals and probably a lot of them. It''ll just never be for him and for norwich.

[ricardo 8,034]

[quote user="Fellas"]I''m sorry hardhouse but I just can''t agree with any of this.

Cureton caused the burnley defence problems all game. His run was what started the 1st goal and he just couldn''t squeeze the pass out. Even if he did, people would still say he didn''t do anything for the team. Unfortunately he''s run into the earnie syndrome, whereby no matter how much off the ball work and movement he does, he will not get recognition because he''s small and a poacher. If you go back and look at how many runs hux got, that''s in part because cureton kept taking his marker away from huckerby.

As for missing his chances, yes he missed some and I was completely gutted for the poor lad. Everytime he misses you can see how much it hurts him. He doesn''t miss on purpose, he just has so much pressure on him. Not only from the team, but from the fans and himself. Ultimately I think it''s his loyalty and fierce love of the club that has weighed down on him. Just the added pressure makes it harder for him.

Ched missed in my opinion an easier chance, another chance and messed up a two yard pass. In my opinion apart from the goal in the last minute, ched didn''t really add much.

If cureton does go in the summer, which I think he is destined to now, then he will score goals and probably a lot of them. It''ll just never be for him and for norwich.
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He will certainly score goals, he always has done.

Unfortunately never at a class that is likely to get his team into a Premiership challenging position.

An ideal striker for a top division 1 club or lower Championship team.

Surely we expect something better than this?

[Boyo 0]

Yep we need two more strikers someone to replace Dion and Jamie, not that he will go but he is no good.  Maybe another striker aswell just so we have options!

Oh yeh, Ricardo, at the moment we are a lower Championship team and he still cant score goals!

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="Hardhouse44"]We need at least 2 new strikers next season.

We can''t hope to go forward with Cureton as first choice.

This is not a personal attack as some will try and make out. It plain fact the guy is not the required standard to take us forward. Misses chances galore but as was so clearly demonstrated today to if he doesn''t score he offers nothing. When Ched came on he we sharper more mobile much more of a physical threat and his all round work rate was better.

I have no problem with him coming on from the bench we need back up but Roeder must surely be looking for a strike partnership for next season that is going to contribute more goals and more assists.

It a cliché to say a striker need to many chances. I agree what I don''t think you can argue with is the other fact. No goal from Jamie means no contribution to the match.

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Agree 100% with everything you say here.  He didn''t cut it ten years ago, and he doesn''t cut it now.

[ricardo 8,034]

[quote user="Boyo"]

Yep we need two more strikers someone to replace Dion and Jamie, not that he will go but he is no good.  Maybe another striker aswell just so we have options!

Oh yeh, Ricardo, at the moment we are a lower Championship team and he still cant score goals!

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Quite true, but I like to be generous in my assesment of Jamie. I''ve always liked him as a player since first seeing him in the youth team.

However too many posters on here seem blind to his failings. He has had a good carreer but he is not the man to take us forward.

A great shame but you can''t dispute the facts.

[Buncey 1]

[quote user="ricardo"][quote user="Boyo"]

Yep we need two more strikers someone to replace Dion and Jamie, not that he will go but he is no good.  Maybe another striker aswell just so we have options!

Oh yeh, Ricardo, at the moment we are a lower Championship team and he still cant score goals!

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Quite true, but I like to be generous in my assesment of Jamie. I''ve always liked him as a player since first seeing him in the youth team.

However too many posters on here seem blind to his failings. He has had a good carreer but he is not the man to take us forward.

A great shame but you can''t dispute the facts.

[/quote]The facts are we are 16th for a reason. I believe it''s not just 2 strikers we need but a whole new team. Personally I think, if we played a system that would benefit jamie then he would easily bag 20 goals in this league (a la colchester). Unfortunately for him; one he hasn''t got the service, two he''s been injured and in and out of the team and three he has missed too many chances this season. Next season I fully expect Glenn to sign us 3 new strikers (if not 2 at least, and with martin seemingly out of the picture it would leave us bare bones up front). I can''t see cureton playing much next season if that is the case and I even more doubt that glenn would formulate a system so that cureton is worked into the team. It''s been all to apparent this season that there has been no cohesion between the front men and the middle. If we scored goals they were either gifts or superb solo efforts by jamie and evans that surely are the reason we will stay up. For one reason or another cureton has just not been the same player he was last season, or the player we all expected to turn up for us. I do think he has had some very unfair critism though. Last match was a fine example, evans and pattison and huckerby all missed equal or better chances than cureton did but none of them have their bones picked at. (infact I personally thought evans had the best chance of them all, but that''s opinion). I have no doubt that if cureton had stayed on the pitch he would have scored, burnley''s defence was all over the shop towards the end and when the 2nd went in, it was no suprise, it was coming for a long time.

[macdougalls perm 0]

I must have imagined that hat trick the week before last then Boyo. [8-)]

[Robert N. LiM 6,292]

Some thoughts on Jamie.1) He has scored 12 league goals this season, in what has been, for most of the season, a terrible team. Only five people in the Championship have scored more than 14. When taking into account the dodgy burger, his appalling man-management by Grant, his appendicitis, the fact we created virtually no chances before Roeder''s arrival, then Roeder''s bizarre reaction to his hat-trick, and the obvious pressure that Jamie puts himself under, I think he''s done ok.2) If you watched a DVD of his goals against Southampton, Ipswich, Watford, Barnsley and the first one against Colchester, you''d think he was a Premiership goalscorer. All of them fantastic finishes which he made look easy.3) But he''s also missed some real sitters, which is what leads to people being frustrated with him.4) In an era of football mercenaries, it is fantastic to watch a player who cares as much about NCFC as the fans do. His equaliser against Ipswich will probably be my favourite moment of the season (unless he scores the winner on Sunday). Sentimental? Guilty, but not ashamed. It may be that we need a better striker to become a promotion-chasing team (though I don''t quite follow the logic that says he can be the league''s top scorer for Colchester but isn''t good enough to play in a side that will create more chances), but I will always have a soft spot for him.