Bristol City chairman promises £30 million transfer kitty if promoted...

[Grando 335]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm

A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)...

Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...

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[quote user="Grando"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)... Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...[/quote]

Right.  That''s it.  I''m taking our 3 year old over the park all weekend every weekend till he''s 18 from now on, and by then he''ll be Pele (if he has his mothers'' footballing skill and not mine).  At this rate, a Pele in 15 years time should be able to buy Bill Gates, Wal-mart and the planet Jupiter.

It''s all gawn mad.

[renegade tootsie 0]

Is that the Bristol City owned by Steve Landsdown who is worth around $250 MILLION pounds. 

You sir are an idiot.

[quote user="Grando"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)... Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...[/quote]

[YankeeCanary 0]

It does sound very ambitious doesn''t it. However, Grando, talk is cheap. It costs nothing to say these things. It''s when you are finally in that position and the money is available to you and then, and only then, is the individual in a position to determine if he walks the talk.

The other thing is I''m not sure it''s a wise move for Lansdown or any Chairman to be speaking this way at this stage. If his club are in contention this season then let them carry on doing the business until getting past the finishing post. They don''t need to get sidetracked at this juncture by wondering what Lansdown''s comments will mean to their future as players.

[Grando 335]

[quote user="JC"]

Is that the Bristol City owned by Steve Landsdown who is worth around $250 MILLION pounds. 

You sir are an idiot.

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Thanks for the compliment, JC! I''m aware of how much he''s worth - that wasn''t really my point - it''s the fact that he''s actually showing some ambition for his club (and yes, OK, that''s easier if you''re worth a fortune)...

But I still find his approach much more palatable than the typical Little-Norwich, cap-doffing approach that our board undoubtedly took. (And even if he only spends half the amount he says he will, it''ll still be more than we managed in the same boat)

*actually I think all of this will probably be irrelevant as I have a hunch Bristol won''t get promoted, but still...

[The Fish Seller 0]

What a silly silly man. Everyone knows that you don''t let people know how much you''re going to spend or you''ll end up paying over the odds. For instance look how much we saved on er, er, errrrrrrrrr........ well actually I can''t think of any single player transfer this strategy has benefitted us with, we''ve still paid full whack for everyone and anyone and doubtless lost a few along the way trying to be cleverer than the selling club or other buyers.

[Unlucky Fried Kitten 0]

It never ceases to amaze me the number of small clubs who appear to be that much more wealthy, and ambitious, than us. Worthy could probably have kept us in the Premiership with about another 4 or 5 million pounds in the transfer chest at the start of the campaign. A sum of money that is chicken feed in comparison with most clubs who make it up to the Premiership. Personally, I shall never forgive this board for their miserly, penny-pinching attitude, when City made that fantastic achievement of promotion to the Premiership as champions. Worthington must have been disgusted. I was, and still am.

[Dean Coneys boots 1,531]

Its all too late to look back but there is truth to the fact that the board were to cautious. We  had a shot at the big time and blew it- with a small time mentality.

I remember reading in the Canary prievew how we were budgeting for a bottom finish and knew then that we were as good as down. You have to beleive and aim high....take risks and that is what we failed to do. Ashton 6 months earlier and I am confident we would have got the POINT needed to survive and could have built from there.

Instead we have witnessed assett stripping and gradula decline and we now need a huge amount of players and have very few worth anything, truth is that every time we have spent on a good player we have made a haelthy return. I simply cannot see where the money we need for rebuilding will come from.

We need 8 players ro have a haelthy squad. And we need to have GOOD players which in toay''s market is £1m + per player. Hmmmm best hope this years journey men bosmans and loans are surprsingly good.

[Mello Yello 2,553]

Yes.....but all the infrastructure and hospitality/corporate facilities (and Colney) etc - are of a ''Premiership Standard''.....I am eternally grateful to the present board - that I don''t have to queue with the ''great unwashed'' and those dreadfully primitive ''oiks'' for my halftime overpriced sustenance and varied quality fare......(of which we are reaping the benefit as the raised foody finance is pumped back into, whatever?)....apparently

Although, it was a good fun going for halftime refreshments and having a good natter behind the Barclay Terrace - and laying/sitting on the embankment......But, that was ''football then''......and this is now......and we''re still skint......apparently......but can still find the wonga to expand - in the off the field ventures.....

Maybe the next restaurant within the confines of the Stadium could be called  "The Black Hole".......

[Arthur Whittle 0]

[quote user="JC"]

Is that the Bristol City owned by Steve Landsdown who is worth around $250 MILLION pounds. 

You sir are an idiot.

[quote user="Grando"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)... Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...[/quote]

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And how much are the Turners worth my friend? You sir are the idiot!

[Hog 0]

[quote user="JC"]

Is that the Bristol City owned by Steve Landsdown who is worth around $250 MILLION pounds. 

You sir are an idiot.

[quote user="Grando"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)... Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...[/quote]

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So just out of interest is that pounds or dollars?  It actually makes quite a difference!

[Carlos Valderrama 0]

[quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="JC"]

Is that the Bristol City owned by Steve Landsdown who is worth around $250 MILLION pounds. 

You sir are an idiot.

[quote user="Grando"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)... Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...[/quote]

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And how much are the Turners worth my friend? You sir are the idiot!

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The Turners company is worth £250m, that is not personal wealth. 

Even so, £30m is a hell of a lot of money.  If he invests it personally thats over 10% of his net worth.  Me thinks its just paper talk.  That, along with the Sunderland £50m.  The game has gone mad.  Come on down Mr Cullum.

[king canary 8,735]

I second the idiot claim, did you miss that about 2 years after we got prmoted a new tv licence deal came in so that getting promoted is now worth about double what it was when we went up. Hence why clubs are now spending more money in the prem, and why recently relegated clubs are too as parachute payments are now bigger.

[Boyo 0]

That 30 million pound is ambition, which our board just havn''t got.

If we got back in the prem and our board were still here we would probably get about 5 million to spend.

[Carrow89 166]

Yep, that''s the way forward. A few away fans turn up and you run out of ''food'' and drink by halftime. Toilet facilities that were not only antiquated but totally inadequate. I ended up peeing against the wall as did many others. Bolted on seats that will not be acceptable in the Premiership. A ground that hasn''t really moved on since the 70''s.Sadly for the simpletons on here who think fans should clamber up trees they are deluded if they think this ground will be acceptable in the Premiership. If, and after watching them last week I doubt they will go up, they do go up they will have to spend BIG, BIG time. The stand we were in would make the old South Stand look like the Emirates Stadium. At virtually every level in football there are facility standards that have to be met before a club can move up to certain levels. Ashton Gate is a shambles.Each season sees club''s like this have their moment in the sun,  then like Colchester, Scunthorpe and so many before they slide back down from whence they  came. The idea that there is still money out there to bail out years and years of missed investment is long over.If chairman''s words are worth anything then please explain the pauper''s red faced buffoon''s claims that their debt repayments could be met outside of the Premiership or that within two month''s of his telling the deluded paupers that their club was financially secure they went into administration.(and the cider guzzler''s stiffed me £25 to stand on some wall support to watch the game).

[Arthur Whittle 0]

[quote user="Ralph Wright"]Yep, that''s the way forward.

A few away fans turn up and you run out of ''food'' and drink by halftime. Toilet facilities that were not only antiquated but totally inadequate. I ended up peeing against the wall as did many others. Bolted on seats that will not be acceptable in the Premiership. A ground that hasn''t really moved on since the 70''s.

Sadly for the simpletons on here who think fans should clamber up trees they are deluded if they think this ground will be acceptable in the Premiership. If, and after watching them last week I doubt they will go up, they do go up they will have to spend BIG, BIG time. The stand we were in would make the old South Stand look like the Emirates Stadium. At virtually every level in football there are facility standards that have to be met before a club can move up to certain levels. Ashton Gate is a shambles.

Each season sees club''s like this have their moment in the sun,  then like Colchester, Scunthorpe and so many before they slide back down from whence they  came. The idea that there is still money out there to bail out years and years of missed investment is long over.

If chairman''s words are worth anything then please explain the pauper''s red faced buffoon''s claims that their debt repayments could be met outside of the Premiership or that within two month''s of his telling the deluded paupers that their club was financially secure they went into administration.

(and the cider guzzler''s stiffed me £25 to stand on some wall support to watch the game).




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You probably are not old enough to remember but so many years ago Bristol were in the top flight. How old were you then? I only ask as back then you didnt used to have plastic, atmosphere lacking stadium to be a top flight team, such as Bolton or Middlesboro. Teams like Luton and Notts county used to play in the top flight but are you saying they didnt deserve to be there because of the state of there grounds? Just how old are you? Im keen to know as you have ignored this in the past. Im in my early 70s as you know.

[Arthur Whittle 0]

[quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="JC"]

Is that the Bristol City owned by Steve Landsdown who is worth around $250 MILLION pounds. 

You sir are an idiot.

[quote user="Grando"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)... Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...[/quote]

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And how much are the Turners worth my friend? You sir are the idiot!

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The Turners company is worth £250m, that is not personal wealth. 

Even so, £30m is a hell of a lot of money.  If he invests it personally thats over 10% of his net worth.  Me thinks its just paper talk.  That, along with the Sunderland £50m.  The game has gone mad.  Come on down Mr Cullum.

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Yes and Steve Landsdown is WORTH £250m, so whats the difference? Ambtion!

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,216]

As YC says talk is cheap, after all wasn`t it our board that came out with phrases like "onwards and upwards", "European football in 5 seasons" and "we are ambitious and will back [insert name of manager] with cash" after we won promotion to the Prem?, it all seems such a long time ago!!......[:D]

[Boot 0]

It always amuses me that the board are blamed for our relegation.  We bought plenty of players (most of them cr*p but that''s not the boards fault), spent a reasonable amount of money at the time (not as much as we could have but it is NEVER as much as it could have been regardless of the amount) and invested reasonably heavily to bring in Ashton when that problem was identified.

The fault lay squarely with the players and the manager.  In case we are in danger of forgetting - we went to Fulham, a mediocre club with nothing to play for, needing just a draw to stay up...just repeat that to yourself again JUST A DRAW!!  And we managed to capitulate to a 6 - 0 stuffing.  The players, and to an extent the manager at the time, are entirely to blame for that - it was a spineless, cowardly display and was by far the biggest disgrace to the proud tradition of our club that I have ever or I hope will ever witness.

And what did we do - stood and applauded them!!  Unbeleivable.  A bit less loyalty to that overrated, underachieving, overpaid bunch of players and a bit more loyalty to the board who invested their own money in the club would seem to be in order but as is always the way with football fans we get it the wrong way round!

No doubt after that performance Worthington (along with virtually the entire team) should have been shown the door and the board made a mistake not doing so but frankly claiming that another £5 million would have rescued us is unprovable, lazy thinking.

[A Load of Squit 6,260]

[quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="JC"]

Is that the Bristol City owned by Steve Landsdown who is worth around $250 MILLION pounds. 

You sir are an idiot.

[quote user="Grando"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)... Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...[/quote]

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And how much are the Turners worth my friend? You sir are the idiot!

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The Turners company is worth £250m, that is not personal wealth. 

Even so, £30m is a hell of a lot of money.  If he invests it personally thats over 10% of his net worth.  Me thinks its just paper talk.  That, along with the Sunderland £50m.  The game has gone mad.  Come on down Mr Cullum.

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Yes and Steve Landsdown is WORTH £250m, so whats the difference? Ambtion!

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Is the difference that Steve has a personal wealth (i.e. cash in the pocket) of £250m and the Turners are the owners of a company thats worth £250m?

Arthur, as a succesful business man you''ll appreciate that this is an enormous difference and has very little to do with ambition.

 

[renegade tootsie 0]

The difference is, as stated MANY times for the terminally silly, the Turners money is not cash, it is ASSETS.

[quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="JC"]

Is that the Bristol City owned by Steve Landsdown who is worth around $250 MILLION pounds. 

You sir are an idiot.

[quote user="Grando"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_city/7330501.stm A bit different to when we were promoted, eh? Slightly more ambition than prudence - puts our lot to shame (and let''s face it they didn''t even need back then to have spent anything like that amount of money - a proper striker e.g. Ashton, at the start of the season would have made a big difference)... Ho hum, if we do stay up it''ll be interesting to see what Glen gets to spend in the summer...[/quote]

[/quote]

And how much are the Turners worth my friend? You sir are the idiot!

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The Turners company is worth £250m, that is not personal wealth. 

Even so, £30m is a hell of a lot of money.  If he invests it personally thats over 10% of his net worth.  Me thinks its just paper talk.  That, along with the Sunderland £50m.  The game has gone mad.  Come on down Mr Cullum.

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Yes and Steve Landsdown is WORTH £250m, so whats the difference? Ambtion!

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[Joanna Grey 0]

It constantly amazes me that when presented with plain facts the amount of FMs here who turn a blind eye to them. If it does not fit in with thier equation that all our problems are the Boards fault then the "ignore" flags go up.

[Carrow89 166]

Oh dear poor old Widdle''s at it again. Try actually replying to what I have posted NOT ........"are you saying " - which is usually Widdlespeak for ''I''ll make up something and argue against that instead''.I am saying what I posted. That is usually how a forum works.As to my age you do seem fascinated by it. So much that you asked TWICE in the same post (onset of dementia ?). It doesn''t matter Widdle. Opinions on here are judged by their validity and content NOT the age of those posting.However as it so excites you then I would reiterate what I said above. Read my posts. And here''s a clue, recent comments by me on here have mentioned my travelling by train up to Thorpe Station from Fakenham, likewise a memorable coach trip Man Utd away in the FA Cup in 1967, climbing over the wall into the River End in the very early seventies and having a ''copper'' clout me round the lug as I tried to grap Duncan Forbe''s shirt after clambering up on a dugout at Vicarage Road.But then I don''t dislike NCFC as much as you do - maybe that''s why I don''t spend so much time scrabbling around finding something to attack the club with. Or getting upset when someone has a pop at the paupers down the road.

ps nice to see a ''70 something'' still spelling like a teenager and using the expression ''mentalist''.

[Arthur Whittle 0]

[quote user="Ralph Wright"]Oh dear poor old Widdle''s at it again.

Try actually replying to what I have posted NOT ........"are you saying " - which is usually Widdlespeak for ''I''ll make up something and argue against that instead''.

I am saying what I posted. That is usually how a forum works.

As to my age you do seem fascinated by it. So much that you asked TWICE in the same post (onset of dementia ?). It doesn''t matter Widdle. Opinions on here are judged by their validity and content NOT the age of those posting.

However as it so excites you then I would reiterate what I said above. Read my posts.

And here''s a clue, recent comments by me on here have mentioned my travelling by train up to Thorpe Station from Fakenham, likewise a memorable coach trip Man Utd away in the FA Cup in 1967, climbing over the wall into the River End in the very early seventies and having a ''copper'' clout me round the lug as I tried to grap Duncan Forbe''s shirt after clambering up on a dugout at Vicarage Road.

But then I don''t dislike NCFC as much as you do - maybe that''s why I don''t spend so much time scrabbling around finding something to attack the club with. Or getting upset when someone has a pop at the paupers down the road.


ps nice to see a ''70 something'' still spelling like a teenager and using the expression ''mentalist''.
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Nice to see you doing a Doncaster when asked a question. Making assumptions that people my age can spell without problems, and also im not allowed to speak in a tone that represents the modern age. I still believe you are just a silly kid who works for the club.

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[Mr.Carrow 394]

[quote user="Boot"]

It always amuses me that the board are blamed for our relegation.  We bought plenty of players (most of them cr*p but that''s not the boards fault), spent a reasonable amount of money at the time (not as much as we could have but it is NEVER as much as it could have been regardless of the amount) and invested reasonably heavily to bring in Ashton when that problem was identified.

The fault lay squarely with the players and the manager.  In case we are in danger of forgetting - we went to Fulham, a mediocre club with nothing to play for, needing just a draw to stay up...just repeat that to yourself again JUST A DRAW!!  And we managed to capitulate to a 6 - 0 stuffing.  The players, and to an extent the manager at the time, are entirely to blame for that - it was a spineless, cowardly display and was by far the biggest disgrace to the proud tradition of our club that I have ever or I hope will ever witness.

And what did we do - stood and applauded them!!  Unbeleivable.  A bit less loyalty to that overrated, underachieving, overpaid bunch of players and a bit more loyalty to the board who invested their own money in the club would seem to be in order but as is always the way with football fans we get it the wrong way round!

No doubt after that performance Worthington (along with virtually the entire team) should have been shown the door and the board made a mistake not doing so but frankly claiming that another £5 million would have rescued us is unprovable, lazy thinking.

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So are you honestly saying that spending £5m (£1.5m of that directly from the share issues) was an ambitious sum for a club which had just been guaranteed £34m over three years?!  And are you honestly saying that the extra £2m or so spend at the start of the season to secure Ashton or Crouch wouldn`t have given us a very good chance of gaining the extra one point needed to stay up?!  Really quite unbelievable....

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"][quote user="Boot"]

It always amuses me that the board are blamed for our relegation.  We bought plenty of players (most of them cr*p but that''s not the boards fault), spent a reasonable amount of money at the time (not as much as we could have but it is NEVER as much as it could have been regardless of the amount) and invested reasonably heavily to bring in Ashton when that problem was identified.

The fault lay squarely with the players and the manager.  In case we are in danger of forgetting - we went to Fulham, a mediocre club with nothing to play for, needing just a draw to stay up...just repeat that to yourself again JUST A DRAW!!  And we managed to capitulate to a 6 - 0 stuffing.  The players, and to an extent the manager at the time, are entirely to blame for that - it was a spineless, cowardly display and was by far the biggest disgrace to the proud tradition of our club that I have ever or I hope will ever witness.

And what did we do - stood and applauded them!!  Unbeleivable.  A bit less loyalty to that overrated, underachieving, overpaid bunch of players and a bit more loyalty to the board who invested their own money in the club would seem to be in order but as is always the way with football fans we get it the wrong way round!

No doubt after that performance Worthington (along with virtually the entire team) should have been shown the door and the board made a mistake not doing so but frankly claiming that another £5 million would have rescued us is unprovable, lazy thinking.

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So are you honestly saying that spending £5m (£1.5m of that directly from the share issues) was an ambitious sum for a club which had just been guaranteed £34m over three years?!  And are you honestly saying that the extra £2m or so spend at the start of the season to secure Ashton or Crouch wouldn`t have given us a very good chance of gaining the extra one point needed to stay up?!  Really quite unbelievable....

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You come across as quite an expert in hindsight Mr. Carrow. Unfortunately, it''s difficult for you to stand out as there''s usually a great crowd of people with loads of expertise in hindsight. Why don''t you share with us whether you have ever been in a responsible position for making decisions containing future risk and affecting many others if you got it wrong, and how you''ve fared in this regard. Now, that would make for interesting reading and provide a little variety on this forum instead of the same old fare. 

[Carlos Valderrama 0]

Whittle.  How much would you be worth if you sold everything you own, how much is your house worth, your business, your pension, your furniture, your TV, your computer?  That is the difference between the Turners and Lansdowne.  The Turners have to sell everything to have what Lansdowne has got.  Is that simple enough for you.

And, if Lansdowne does invest £30m of his own money thats over 10% of his net worth.  And it guarantees nothing.  How many times can he do it.  I am not denying that it is ambiton, and I can''t say I am not a little bit envious.  But seriously, if that is what football costs now to compete then frankly they can keep it.  We all harp on about the golden era under Chase.  In those days you could grab a quality player for 100 grand.  If you spent a million or two you were splashing out.  Now you need £2-3m just to grab an average player, Shola Ameobi £600k for half a dozen games.  Now tell me that the game hasn''t gone mad.

If football carries on in this vain then quality, affordable football for the working class will be a thing of the past.  The nearest people like me will ever get to a live game will be in the local park on a sunday or in front of TV once in a blue moon.

[Carrow89 166]

quick question is it always necessary to hit the quote button everytime someone replies ?we are all capable of reading the posts that are being referred tothis ''knee jerk'' action not only clutters up the board, has ridiculous posts that have quotes within quotes within quotes ............ but it causes the thread to be stretched beyond the normal page sizeTHINK - DO I NEED TO QUOTE