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Norwich

 

Financial Overview

Year

Turnover

Pre-tax profit

Wages / Turnover ratio (%)

Employees

2006/07

23.771

0.627

 

208

2005/06

24.116

3.065

62.1

214

2004/05

37.426

9.166

45.2

201

2003/04

13.928

-3.265

 

185

2002/03

12.965

-4.681

77.1

170

2001/02

15.271

0.440

54.2

167

2000/01

9.391

0.976

86.4

162

1999/00

7.696

-0.754

88.7

143

1998/99

6.236

-2.966

91.6

109

1997/98

6.910

0.600

65.5

96

1996/97

6.271

-1.176

61.1

90

1995/96

6.530

0.224

106

1994/95

7.855

1.111

1993/94

9.477

0.863

 

 

 

 

 

Ipswich

 

Financial Overview

Year

Turnover

Pre-tax profit

Wages / Turnover ratio (%)

Employees

2005/06

10.597

-3.511

93.4

179

2004/05

17.482

-3.166

69.3

182

2003/04

19.888

1.249

71.8

229

2002/03

25.532

-8.270

73.6

245

2001/02

37.376

-3.297

64.7

247

2000/01

28.924

2.081

55.1

212

1999/00

9.957

2.127

85.5

181

1998/99

7.949

-0.001

75.5

174

1997/98

8.658

-1.414

56.5

143

1996/97

8.001

1.118

54.0

379

1995/96

4.593

-1.931

95.8

432

1994/95

6.851

-1.150

 

137

1993/94

7.203

0.815

 

107

1992/93

5.849

0.606

 

 

1991/92

3.514

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thought some of you folks might like the info to get your teeth into?

Make of it what you will.

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One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years.  Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......?

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Oddily enough the binners own figures aren''t quite the same.They state that in 2005/2006 the turnover was £16.4m not the absurd £10.597m as claimed above.The loss is given as £2.7m not £3.5 as claimed.unlike the above I''ll happily list my source - http://www.ipswichtownfirst.co.uk/viewnews.asp?id=205Make of somebody, constantly posting attacks on our club, what you will

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Norwich

 

Financial Overview

Year

Turnover

Pre-tax profit

Wages / Turnover ratio (%)

Employees

2006/07

23.771

0.627

 

208

2005/06

24.116

3.065

62.1

214

2004/05

37.426

9.166

45.2

201

2003/04

13.928

-3.265

 

185

2002/03

12.965

-4.681

77.1

170

2001/02

15.271

0.440

54.2

167

2000/01

9.391

0.976

86.4

162

1999/00

7.696

-0.754

88.7

143

1998/99

6.236

-2.966

91.6

109

1997/98

6.910

0.600

65.5

96

1996/97

6.271

-1.176

61.1

90

1995/96

6.530

0.224

106

1994/95

7.855

1.111

1993/94

9.477

0.863

 

 

 

 

 

Ipswich

 

Financial Overview

Year

Turnover

Pre-tax profit

Wages / Turnover ratio (%)

Employees

2005/06

10.597

-3.511

93.4

179

2004/05

17.482

-3.166

69.3

182

2003/04

19.888

1.249

71.8

229

2002/03

25.532

-8.270

73.6

245

2001/02

37.376

-3.297

64.7

247

2000/01

28.924

2.081

55.1

212

1999/00

9.957

2.127

85.5

181

1998/99

7.949

-0.001

75.5

174

1997/98

8.658

-1.414

56.5

143

1996/97

8.001

1.118

54.0

379

1995/96

4.593

-1.931

95.8

432

1994/95

6.851

-1.150

 

137

1993/94

7.203

0.815

 

107

1992/93

5.849

0.606

 

 

1991/92

3.514

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thought some of you folks might like the info to get your teeth into?

Make of it what you will.

OTBC

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http://www.footballeconomy.com

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[quote user="Ralph Wright"]Oddily enough the binners own figures aren''t quite the same.

They state that in 2005/2006 the turnover was £16.4m not the absurd £10.597m as claimed above.

The loss is given as £2.7m not £3.5 as claimed.

unlike the above I''ll happily list my source -

http://www.ipswichtownfirst.co.uk/viewnews.asp?id=205

Make of somebody, constantly posting attacks on our club, what you will

[/quote]

It''s not our club walfy.

It''s Delia''s club.

Learn that.

Now off to bed, it''s late.

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[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years.  Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......?[/quote]

Mr. Carrow, I realise it''s difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don''t you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound.

For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making  a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it''s absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung.

Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be.      

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[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years.  Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......?[/quote]

Mr. Carrow, I realise it''s difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don''t you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound.

For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making  a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it''s absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung.

Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be.      

[/quote]

That''s hardly fair Yankee.

Bly''s only comment is "make of it what you will"

I don''t see how that can be construed as an attack on the club.

One thing that is patently clear is that Ipswich have been fiscally irresponsible.

But then we all knew that didn''t we?

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[quote user="ricardo"][quote user="YankeeCanary"]

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years.  Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......?[/quote]

Mr. Carrow, I realise it''s difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don''t you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound.

For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making  a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it''s absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung.

Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be.      

[/quote]

That''s hardly fair Yankee.

Bly''s only comment is "make of it what you will"

I don''t see how that can be construed as an attack on the club.

One thing that is patently clear is that Ipswich have been fiscally irresponsible.

But then we all knew that didn''t we?

[/quote]

Surely he''s talking to Mr Carrow isn''t he? Not Bly.

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[quote user="YankeeCanary"]

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years.  Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......?[/quote]

Mr. Carrow, I realise it''s difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don''t you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound.

For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making  a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it''s absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung.

Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be.      

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Thanks for the advice YC but in the limited time available to me i chose to make the point that jumped out at me first. As we are constantly told we are a loss-making club do you think this is evidence of misleading spin?

Comparing us and ipswich is a totally pointless waste of time. Totally different situations and scenarios. For example you point out that their income has been higher over this period but neglect to add that they have had several Prem/Europe/play-off years in that period.

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[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]

Comparing us and ipswich is a totally pointless waste of time.

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There Babes! Even Mr. Carrow[8-|][*] thinks your thread is a pointless waste of time [:|]

 

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[quote user="macdougalls perm"][quote user="ricardo"][quote user="YankeeCanary"]

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]One thing that stands out straight away is that whilst we are constantly told we are a "loss-making Championship club" we have actually made profits in nine of the last fourteen years.  Puts a slightly different "spin" on things doesn`t it.......?[/quote]

Mr. Carrow, I realise it''s difficult for you to not sound like a broken record, but why don''t you dust the record off sometimes and at least provide criticism of your own club while giving it the appearance of being a fresh sound.

For example, assuming the input provided by Bly is correct, you could continue to have a crack at NCFC owners while, at the same time, making  a stab at being objective about the financial performance of Norwich vs Ipswich during the 10 seasons of the above period that Delia and Michael have assumed control of Norwich. You could point out that it''s absolutely shocking that Ipswich have achieved a cumulative turnover over ten seasons that is higher than Norwich have, albeit the difference is marginal. You could then soften this stinging criticism by making the small concession that, while Ipswich have encountered a net pre-tax loss of 13 million pounds over that period, Norwich have been fiscally responsible, showing a cumulative 2 million pre-tax profit. You could then cut NCFC to the quick by offering biting comments that the cumulative 2 million is hardly enough to keep a chicken alive and a more enlightened approach needs to be pursued, while making a grudging concession that Norwich have at least been solvent enough to pay their bills while the folks down the road have left creditors trailing in Ipswich generated dung.

Do you see, Mr. Carrow, how it is possible to continue to put forth your rapier like thrusts into the heart of those that manage the affairs of NCFC while, at the same time, make it clear to all and sundry that you do so in an entirely objective manner, as you will strive to seek out the good in your own club, small that it may be.      

[/quote]

That''s hardly fair Yankee.

Bly''s only comment is "make of it what you will"

I don''t see how that can be construed as an attack on the club.

One thing that is patently clear is that Ipswich have been fiscally irresponsible.

But then we all knew that didn''t we?

[/quote]

Surely he''s talking to Mr Carrow isn''t he? Not Bly.

[/quote]

You are correct Mac.

Apologies all round

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[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Mr.Carrow"]

Comparing us and ipswich is a totally pointless waste of time.

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There Babes! Even Mr. Carrow[8-|][*] thinks your thread is a pointless waste of time [:|]

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Yes nutty I agree, it is an oddly silly thing for Mr Carrow to say!

What shall we give him - 100 lines to write? Or 100 steps to climb before supper?

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[quote user="Ralph Wright"]Oddily enough the binners own figures aren''t quite the same.

They state that in 2005/2006 the turnover was £16.4m not the absurd £10.597m as claimed above.

The loss is given as £2.7m not £3.5 as claimed.

unlike the above I''ll happily list my source -

http://www.ipswichtownfirst.co.uk/viewnews.asp?id=205

Make of somebody, constantly posting attacks on our club, what you will



[/quote]

 

Ralph Wright demonstrates his intimate knowledge of the Binners finances once again.

 

You must be spending a lot of time on those ITFC websites Ralphy, anything you''d like to share with us, we''re your friends you know......

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It''s not our club walfy.

It''s Delia''s club.

Learn that.

Now off to bed, it''s late.

 

Thats the thing though-it is Delia''s club isn''t it? Certainly more so than mine or yours, I fill my car up every week at Esso but that doesn''t make Esso "my" business!

The days of going to games, buying a season ticket etc etc and saying "I pay the players wages" are long gone. We don''t. Football is a business and we are seen as the "lucky ones" (!?) who pay to see what the business chooses to display, good, bad, or otherwise. As fans, we have few "rights" and no claim to "ownership", other than if we have a few shares. I have some but nowhere near enough to give me a say in anything other than votes on issues which I mostly disagree with anyway.

Even if a club ends up being taken over by a consortium of fans, the status quo would remain the same. Those that weren''t part of it would have no say or claim to anything. Its like the old story of a countries free loading Emperor and his family being turfed away and out of their life of decandent living by a revolutionary force who take over, and, themselves in time, are thrown out of their life of decadence etc by another revolutionary force-and so it goes on.

We can bang on and on and on about it being "our club" but it isn''t seen as such and no-one is ever going to take that argument into consideration when it comes to club issues and policy. Sure, we can bote with our feet and stay away but what difference would it ever make, its not as if everyone would unite so much that there are suddenly only 10, 11''000 at home games, that will never happen. Its a shame and I hate it, but thats how football has gone and it includes Norwich.

FC Norwich of Norfolk anyone?

 

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[quote user="Old Shuck"]

It''s not our club walfy.

It''s Delia''s club.

Learn that.

Now off to bed, it''s late.

 

Thats the thing though-it is Delia''s club isn''t it? Certainly more so than mine or yours, I fill my car up every week at Esso but that doesn''t make Esso "my" business!

The days of going to games, buying a season ticket etc etc and saying "I pay the players wages" are long gone. We don''t. Football is a business and we are seen as the "lucky ones" (!?) who pay to see what the business chooses to display, good, bad, or otherwise. As fans, we have few "rights" and no claim to "ownership", other than if we have a few shares. I have some but nowhere near enough to give me a say in anything other than votes on issues which I mostly disagree with anyway.

Even if a club ends up being taken over by a consortium of fans, the status quo would remain the same. Those that weren''t part of it would have no say or claim to anything. Its like the old story of a countries free loading Emperor and his family being turfed away and out of their life of decandent living by a revolutionary force who take over, and, themselves in time, are thrown out of their life of decadence etc by another revolutionary force-and so it goes on.

We can bang on and on and on about it being "our club" but it isn''t seen as such and no-one is ever going to take that argument into consideration when it comes to club issues and policy. Sure, we can bote with our feet and stay away but what difference would it ever make, its not as if everyone would unite so much that there are suddenly only 10, 11''000 at home games, that will never happen. Its a shame and I hate it, but thats how football has gone and it includes Norwich.

FC Norwich of Norfolk anyone?

 

[/quote]

I have a lot of sympathy with your frustration Old Shuck but to say that fans of any football club have no say at all in the future of the club is taking things a bit far.  I know that the Wimbledon experience shows how things can go wrong with ownership of a club but in general there are very few, if any managers who can withstand the wrath of the majority of fans for very long.  More importantly, and this is the real point, very few boards of directors can either!  If the majority of fans turn against a board the chances are that a change will be made.  It may take a year or two but very few boards (including our own under Chase) can withstand the wrath of the fans indefinitely.

Your point about Esso is well made and if you took your business elsewhere nothing would happen, but if everyone stopped using Esso (or Ratners Jewlers if you want a better analogy) things would change pretty damn fast!

Nil Desporandum old friend!

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[quote user="Old Shuck"]

It''s not our club walfy.

It''s Delia''s club.

Learn that.

Now off to bed, it''s late.

 

Thats the thing though-it is Delia''s club isn''t it? Certainly more so than mine or yours, I fill my car up every week at Esso but that doesn''t make Esso "my" business!

The days of going to games, buying a season ticket etc etc and saying "I pay the players wages" are long gone. We don''t. Football is a business and we are seen as the "lucky ones" (!?) who pay to see what the business chooses to display, good, bad, or otherwise. As fans, we have few "rights" and no claim to "ownership", other than if we have a few shares. I have some but nowhere near enough to give me a say in anything other than votes on issues which I mostly disagree with anyway.

Even if a club ends up being taken over by a consortium of fans, the status quo would remain the same. Those that weren''t part of it would have no say or claim to anything. Its like the old story of a countries free loading Emperor and his family being turfed away and out of their life of decandent living by a revolutionary force who take over, and, themselves in time, are thrown out of their life of decadence etc by another revolutionary force-and so it goes on.

We can bang on and on and on about it being "our club" but it isn''t seen as such and no-one is ever going to take that argument into consideration when it comes to club issues and policy. Sure, we can bote with our feet and stay away but what difference would it ever make, its not as if everyone would unite so much that there are suddenly only 10, 11''000 at home games, that will never happen. Its a shame and I hate it, but thats how football has gone and it includes Norwich.

FC Norwich of Norfolk anyone?

 

[/quote]

I have a lot of sympathy with your frustration Old Shuck but to say that fans of any football club have no say at all in the future of the club is taking things a bit far.  I know that the Wimbledon experience shows how things can go wrong with ownership of a club but in general there are very few, if any managers who can withstand the wrath of the majority of fans for very long.  More importantly, and this is the real point, very few boards of directors can either!  If the majority of fans turn against a board the chances are that a change will be made.  It may take a year or two but very few boards (including our own under Chase) can withstand the wrath of the fans indefinitely.

Your point about Esso is well made and if you took your business elsewhere nothing would happen, but if everyone stopped using Esso (or Ratners Jewlers if you want a better analogy) things would change pretty damn fast!

Nil Desporandum old friend!

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" Ralph Wright demonstrates his intimate knowledge of the Binners finances once again."yep, took me about ten seconds to type in the question on Goggle - far less time than a troll takes to set up another nameodd that Bly hasn''t defended his false figues or explained why his posts seem to feature either attacks on us or comparisons with the paupers down the roadpossibly not that odd though

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[quote user="Boot"][quote user="Old Shuck"]

It''s not our club walfy.

It''s Delia''s club.

Learn that.

Now off to bed, it''s late.

 

Thats the thing though-it is Delia''s club isn''t it? Certainly more so than mine or yours, I fill my car up every week at Esso but that doesn''t make Esso "my" business!

The days of going to games, buying a season ticket etc etc and saying "I pay the players wages" are long gone. We don''t. Football is a business and we are seen as the "lucky ones" (!?) who pay to see what the business chooses to display, good, bad, or otherwise. As fans, we have few "rights" and no claim to "ownership", other than if we have a few shares. I have some but nowhere near enough to give me a say in anything other than votes on issues which I mostly disagree with anyway.

Even if a club ends up being taken over by a consortium of fans, the status quo would remain the same. Those that weren''t part of it would have no say or claim to anything. Its like the old story of a countries free loading Emperor and his family being turfed away and out of their life of decandent living by a revolutionary force who take over, and, themselves in time, are thrown out of their life of decadence etc by another revolutionary force-and so it goes on.

We can bang on and on and on about it being "our club" but it isn''t seen as such and no-one is ever going to take that argument into consideration when it comes to club issues and policy. Sure, we can bote with our feet and stay away but what difference would it ever make, its not as if everyone would unite so much that there are suddenly only 10, 11''000 at home games, that will never happen. Its a shame and I hate it, but thats how football has gone and it includes Norwich.

FC Norwich of Norfolk anyone?

 

[/quote]

I have a lot of sympathy with your frustration Old Shuck but to say that fans of any football club have no say at all in the future of the club is taking things a bit far.  I know that the Wimbledon experience shows how things can go wrong with ownership of a club but in general there are very few, if any managers who can withstand the wrath of the majority of fans for very long.  More importantly, and this is the real point, very few boards of directors can either!  If the majority of fans turn against a board the chances are that a change will be made.  It may take a year or two but very few boards (including our own under Chase) can withstand the wrath of the fans indefinitely.

Your point about Esso is well made and if you took your business elsewhere nothing would happen, but if everyone stopped using Esso (or Ratners Jewlers if you want a better analogy) things would change pretty damn fast!

Nil Desporandum old friend!

[/quote]

Fair point and well made. I do wonder sometimes-and I am not so reactionary as some of our posters, admittedly-quite what it would take, if anything (and thats scary-perhaps there is no line for the board to cross?) for the supporters of the club to genuinely and, as one, display a united and very real protest that would be taken note of. And would "taken note of" equate to "action taken" -you do wonder!

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[quote user="Ralph Wright"]" Ralph Wright demonstrates his intimate knowledge of the Binners finances once again."

yep, took me about ten seconds to type in the question on Goggle - far less time than a troll takes to set up another name

odd that Bly hasn''t defended his false figues or explained why his posts seem to feature either attacks on us or comparisons with the paupers down the road

possibly not that odd though
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Silly boy.

Playing with libel now are you? Visit the source provided.

I wonder if your parents know.

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[quote user="Ralph Wright"]" Ralph Wright demonstrates his intimate knowledge of the Binners finances once again."

yep, took me about ten seconds to type in the question on Goggle - far less time than a troll takes to set up another name

odd that Bly hasn''t defended his false figues or explained why his posts seem to feature either attacks on us or comparisons with the paupers down the road

possibly not that odd though
[/quote]

Silly boy.

Playing with libel now are you? Hint - the reference was provided.

I wonder if your parents know.

Now run along again Walfy.

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There are two sets of figures.The ones you posted up and the ones provided by ipswich town fc.You repeatedly fail to tell us which set is accurate.So, whose figures are correct, your claim of an turnover of £10m in 2005/6 or the pauper''s official accounts stating £16.4m.let me remind you that with any claim, and I suggest more noticably attacks on our club on a City forum, the onus is on those making the claims. So please tell us, which figures are correct ? 

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[quote user="Ralph Wright"]There are two sets of figures.

The ones you posted up and the ones provided by ipswich town fc.

You repeatedly fail to tell us which set is accurate.

So, whose figures are correct, your claim of an turnover of £10m in 2005/6 or the pauper''s official accounts stating £16.4m.

let me remind you that with any claim, and I suggest more noticably attacks on our club on a City forum, the onus is on those making the claims. So please tell us, which figures are correct ?
 
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You''re making a real fool of yourself now walfy.

I think you should go play by yourself.

Cluck!

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" You''re making a real fool of yourself now walfy."yep, as I was tonight shouting my head off at the match tonightremind us where you were at 8.09 tonightunable to substantiate your silly claims, unable to explain why your posts are repeaed attacks on our club or comparisons with the paupers down the road, unable now, to fool most on here where your true allegiance liesand it ain''t where 23,000 others were sat tonight !

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