The Fish Seller 0 Posted October 28, 2007 She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit. Am I wrong? Some legacy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowngreen 0 Posted October 28, 2007 Prudunce SHOW US YAAA MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!! just another muppet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted October 28, 2007 [quote user="yellowngreen"]just another muppet[/quote]Well argued. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cluck 0 Posted October 28, 2007 [quote user="Prudence with Damnation."]She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit. Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]No....you''re not wrong at all......Sadly it pretty much sums up where the "saviour" has led us...and it''s certainly not the promised land.Well done Delia...well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginja 26 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="Prudence with Damnation."]She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit. Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]We are not facing relegation to Division 3, that is league two, we are facing relegation to Division 2 or League 1. No the premier league is not old Division 1, as the premier league is an extension to the League system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steelsilver 0 Posted October 29, 2007 still, it''ll be worth it just to see the back of her!! Aint my money thats being lost lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellow hammer 0 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="Prudence with Damnation."]She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit. Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]You sum it up pretty well. This is the result of entrusting our great football club to a bunch of footballing amateurs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish Seller 0 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="yellowngreen"] Prudunce SHOW US YAAA MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!! just another muppet[/quote] Dear yellowngreen. Thank you for your kind and well thought out reply.Unfortunately since you have ducked the issue and used abuse as a diversionary tactic I am going to have to completely ignore it.Please feel free to answer the question. Yours Prudence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlies dad 0 Posted October 29, 2007 Hasnt she done well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missing in action? 0 Posted October 29, 2007 i agreeshe does have to leave though. but not to di stefano etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur Whittle 0 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="Prudence with Damnation."]She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit. Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]The funny thing is that the ones who have been hoodwinked by the spin are now saying they never supported the board. In my eyes there blind faith in cook and co is as much to blame in the demise of our once proud club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="UEA Canary"]We are not facing relegation to Division 3, that is league two, we are facing relegation to Division 2 or League 1. No the premier league is not old Division 1, as the premier league is an extension to the League system.[/quote]It doesn''t matter how cleverly you spin it UEA, its still the 3rd tier of pro English Football, its where I first came in by the way, in the late fifties...............in the 3rd division! [:|] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
One Flew Over... 33 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="Prudence with Damnation."]She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit.Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]We "face" relegation every season..if Delia left now the chances of us being relegated in the following 5 months is nil. Lets see where we are at the end of the season. We are interviewing managers, it''s not like the board have decided to not have a manager anymore is it...Noticed the brand new stand at Carrow Road? The corner infills? I thought the debt was less than 20 million. What do you mean "and the rest"?Well one sided posts like yours don''t really help with healing rifts between fans do they? I''m just trying to balance out some of your subjectiveness. Proof the squad is worth a quarter of what it was? I don''t remember buying million pound keepers, or 3 million pound strikers in the past. Investing millions and getting no return is not great for your finances.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shack Attack 0 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="UEA Canary"]We are not facing relegation to Division 3, that is league two, we are facing relegation to Division 2 or League 1. No the premier league is not old Division 1, as the premier league is an extension to the League system.[/quote]Jesus, you actually believe the cr@p they feed you on SKY. We''re facing relegation to the third teir of English football, which in my book makes it the third division. The only reason The Championship, League 1 and League 2 are so named is because they think it will fool some people into believing that their team is in a higher league than they were when it was Divisions 2, 3 and 4.Now I would have thought that a university educated chap such as yourself would have seen through such blatant spin [:P]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur Whittle 0 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="UEA Canary"][quote user="Prudence with Damnation."]She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit. Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]We are not facing relegation to Division 3, that is league two, we are facing relegation to Division 2 or League 1. No the premier league is not old Division 1, as the premier league is an extension to the League system.[/quote]No you are wrong UEA or maybe too young to remember. The league set up used to be leagues 1 to 4 {at 1 point south aswell}. The premiership took division 1s place and the last 3 leagues were moved back. The champion ship then replaced the old division 2-then called division 1 and thus the old divisions 3 and 4 became league 1 and league 2. Just fancy names for division 1, 2, 3, and 4. Hope that clears up your confusion. So it will be the old division 3 that-and i hope we dont, we would be relegated to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="UEA Canary"][quote user="Prudence with Damnation."] She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit. Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]We are not facing relegation to Division 3, that is league two, we are facing relegation to Division 2 or League 1. No the premier league is not old Division 1, as the premier league is an extension to the League system.[/quote]No you are wrong UEA or maybe too young to remember. The league set up used to be leagues 1 to 4 {at 1 point south aswell}. The premiership took division 1s place and the last 3 leagues were moved back. The champion ship then replaced the old division 2-then called division 1 and thus the old divisions 3 and 4 became league 1 and league 2. Just fancy names for division 1, 2, 3, and 4. Hope that clears up your confusion. So it will be the old division 3 that-and i hope we dont, we would be relegated to.[/quote]Congratulations arthur. That is the first FACTUAL post you have made since joining this board 500 posts ago. Keep up the good work. Onwards and upwards. [:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,506 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="Arthur Whittle"]No you are wrong UEA or maybe too young to remember. The league set up used to be leagues 1 to 4 {at 1 point south aswell}. The premiership took division 1s place and the last 3 leagues were moved back. The champion ship then replaced the old division 2-then called division 1 and thus the old divisions 3 and 4 became league 1 and league 2. Just fancy names for division 1, 2, 3, and 4. Hope that clears up your confusion. So it will be the old division 3 that-and i hope we dont, we would be relegated to.[/quote]He is neither right nor wrong Arthur. The Premier League was a breakaway and so not technically part of the football league. So we are now in Division One of the Football League. Testament to this is the Championship Trophy that we won in 2004. It''s the same trophy that was won so often by Liverpool in the 70''s and 80''s. Likewise the Trophy that Scunthorpe won last season was the same one that we won under Saunders in 1972.The only true way I find to describe these new leagues are that they are the first, second, third and fouth tiers of English football. That way you are right in saying that if we are relegated this season it would be to the third tier.Originally I believe there was one division, they then added a second division and then later two third divisions that were regionalised as north and south. These two regionalised divisions were then amalgamated into the divisions three and four which are now the second and third tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur Whittle 0 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="UEA Canary"][quote user="Prudence with Damnation."] She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit. Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]We are not facing relegation to Division 3, that is league two, we are facing relegation to Division 2 or League 1. No the premier league is not old Division 1, as the premier league is an extension to the League system.[/quote]No you are wrong UEA or maybe too young to remember. The league set up used to be leagues 1 to 4 {at 1 point south aswell}. The premiership took division 1s place and the last 3 leagues were moved back. The champion ship then replaced the old division 2-then called division 1 and thus the old divisions 3 and 4 became league 1 and league 2. Just fancy names for division 1, 2, 3, and 4. Hope that clears up your confusion. So it will be the old division 3 that-and i hope we dont, we would be relegated to.[/quote]Congratulations arthur. That is the first FACTUAL post you have made since joining this board 500 posts ago. Keep up the good work. Onwards and upwards. [:D] [/quote]Alot of my posts may not be FACTUAL but they seem to be a hell of alot more spot on then most of the people following the spin with complete blind faith. So to summarise Lappin, Factual or not at least MY opinions are based on common sense and they are MY opinions instead of people sticking they''re heads in the ground and agreeing with all the rubbish coming out of CR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish Seller 0 Posted October 29, 2007 [quote user="One Flew Over..."][quote user="Prudence with Damnation."] She would be leaving us in our lowest league position for nigh on 50 years.She would leave us facing relegation to the old Div 3 for only the second time since we moved to FCR.She would leave us Managerless.She would leave us with one corner of the ground effectively hockedoff (well for 147 more years anyway).She would leave us £20,000,000 (and the rest I suspect) in debt.She would leave the once magnificent fanbase divided and bickering with each other.She would leave us with a squad worth just a quarter of that which she inherited.She will have been responsible for the two worst extended periods of football I''ve witnessed us play in over 40 years (Three worst if you throw in Worthys swansong period but Hamilton and Grant does it for me).She would be leaving with most if not all of her Investment possibly even a small profit.Am I wrong? Some legacy...[/quote]We "face" relegation every season..if Delia left now the chances of us being relegated in the following 5 months is nil. Lets see where we are at the end of the season. So you reckon we''ll stand more chance if Delia were to leave? me too.We are interviewing managers, it''s not like the board have decided to not have a manager anymore is it... Well we seem to fail to replace key members of the Club with such frequency nowadays.... Seriously I''m sure we will have a manager fact is if Deals sold up right now we wouldn''t.Noticed the brand new stand at Carrow Road? The corner infills? Nice very nice but I''d rather have good players on the pitch than a shiny seat.I thought the debt was less than 20 million. What do you mean "and the rest"? The 18.9 million I saw touted recently did not include the £2,000,000 the Turners lent the Club for starters.Well one sided posts like yours don''t really help with healing rifts between fans do they? I''m just trying to balance out some of your subjectiveness. Just trying to inject a little balance to the Clubs spin.Proof the squad is worth a quarter of what it was? I don''t remember buying million pound keepers, or 3 million pound strikers in the past. 1996 Squad. Adams, Neil NJ Akinbiyi, Ade AO Bellamy, Craig CD Sold to Coventry for £6 million Bradshaw, Carl C Broughton, Drewe DO Carey, Shaun SP Crook, Ian IS Eadie, Darren DM Sold to Leicester for £3 million Fleck, Robert RW Forbes, Adrian AE Gunn, Bryan BJ Hilton, Damien DA Jackson, Matt MA Johnson, Andy AJ Sold to Forest for £2.2 million Marshall, Andy AJ Milligan, Mike MJ Mills, Danny DJ Sold to Charlton for £800k Moore, Neil N Newman, Rob RN O''Neill, Keith KPG Valued at £4 million by Newcastle Ottosson, Ulf UP Polston, John JD Rocastle, David DC Rush, Matthew MJ Scott, Keith KJ Scott, Kevin KW Simpson, Karl KE Sutch, Daryl D Wright, Johnny J That means we realised £12 million from the sale of just four players alone add the O''Neill money the Akinbiyi cash etc you''ll see we were pushing a squad value of £15 million when Delia took over. Think you''d get a quarter of that if you sold our current squad? Investing millions and getting no return is not great for your finances.. That''s why you''d have to be mad to put money into a football club. delias words not mine.[:)][/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
