we8wba 0 Posted October 12, 2007 [quote user="Wings"]I''m suprised about the reaction to Hoddle; I think the man''s not good enough and has now been out of the game too long.As for we8wba, with respect a Wolves fan shouldn''t be commenting about a board making "disgraceful" appointments and signings; Wolves have had enough poor managers and signings over the years and I suggest you keep your mouth shut. [/quote]lets keep this norwich based, i got 1st hand opinion on twoddle n his dire football ask any wolves fan and theyll tell you the same, you''ll find it hard to hear a true wolves fan (whos not armchair supporter) to say twoddle was goodas wolves board - i think you''ll find the only board which poor hasnt been in helm for last 20yrs, sir jack put in 60m into the team, n morgan has so far provided fundsthe boards has never signed a player for us unlike yours whos obv bought in hartsonyou can get all angry n defensive but lets face it mate our board n manager better than yours in the last few years (not saying that wont change though) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carlos Valderrama 0 Posted October 12, 2007 [quote user="we8wba"]right - 1st of all old man mick not excatly doing a bad job i.e last year for us when we were in same sort of situation as you in the mire.on hoddle - i have watched his football at wolves, its not like im judging him not seeing him, someone said i feel threatend if you have him! seriosuly have him if you want, you wont do no bettersomeone commented if he had the talent? we just been relegated season previous with team who challenged to stay up except from henri camara and alex rae, but we signed seyi olafinjana for 2m so that replaced raehe tries to get to clever for the championship playing dimonds etc.. when we all know like derby football you got strong spine you more likely to pick up resultshe spent 1.5m on 31yr old tomasz frankowski claiming him to be "the final part of the jigzaw" the guy scored 0 goals in 17gameswe then went 4-3-3(4-5-1) bit like villa with moore n abanglor on wings n carew uptop, but he played cort wide n frankowski (5ft midget) up top launching long ballswhen pressure got to him n wolves board gave him NO MONEY up left, showing what he truly made of IF YOU REALLY WANT HIM, HAVE HIM, - BUT YOU''LL BE THE ONES MOANING IN 6-18MONTHS TIMEif i was norwich i would of had warnock you watch palace do well now! also qpr showing more ambition than you going for john collins of hibsyour board are taking you for mugs[/quote]OK smug boy, let me put this to you....Without the benefit of hindsight, managerless Wolves have to choose between both McCarthy and Hoddle, who would you choose.Just because things didn''t work out at Wolves doesnt mean he cant do a job for someone else. And you cant deny that A. he has the experience we crave, B. knows how the game should be played i.e attractive passing football, C. Is unemployed and available on a free, and D. has been out of the game for a while and may be chomping at the bit to get going again.Finally, yes McCarthy is doing OK at the moment but as I recall Wolves were in free fall when Hoddle took over. Is it safe to assume that he stabilised the ship, made you hard to beat etc. All McCarthy has done is build on the good work started by Hoddle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
we8wba 0 Posted October 12, 2007 [quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="we8wba"] right - 1st of all old man mick not excatly doing a bad job i.e last year for us when we were in same sort of situation as you in the mire.on hoddle - i have watched his football at wolves, its not like im judging him not seeing him, someone said i feel threatend if you have him! seriosuly have him if you want, you wont do no bettersomeone commented if he had the talent? we just been relegated season previous with team who challenged to stay up except from henri camara and alex rae, but we signed seyi olafinjana for 2m so that replaced raehe tries to get to clever for the championship playing dimonds etc.. when we all know like derby football you got strong spine you more likely to pick up resultshe spent 1.5m on 31yr old tomasz frankowski claiming him to be "the final part of the jigzaw" the guy scored 0 goals in 17gameswe then went 4-3-3(4-5-1) bit like villa with moore n abanglor on wings n carew uptop, but he played cort wide n frankowski (5ft midget) up top launching long ballswhen pressure got to him n wolves board gave him NO MONEY up left, showing what he truly made of IF YOU REALLY WANT HIM, HAVE HIM, - BUT YOU''LL BE THE ONES MOANING IN 6-18MONTHS TIMEif i was norwich i would of had warnock you watch palace do well now! also qpr showing more ambition than you going for john collins of hibsyour board are taking you for mugs[/quote]OK smug boy, let me put this to you....Without the benefit of hindsight, managerless Wolves have to choose between both McCarthy and Hoddle, who would you choose.Just because things didn''t work out at Wolves doesnt mean he cant do a job for someone else. And you cant deny that A. he has the experience we crave, B. knows how the game should be played i.e attractive passing football, C. Is unemployed and available on a free, and D. has been out of the game for a while and may be chomping at the bit to get going again.Finally, yes McCarthy is doing OK at the moment but as I recall Wolves were in free fall when Hoddle took over. Is it safe to assume that he stabilised the ship, made you hard to beat etc. All McCarthy has done is build on the good work started by Hoddle.[/quote]being 110% honest, i wasnt happy with when we had hoddlei would happily taken mccarthy after sunderland but not before he managered themat the time i wanted holloway or newell before hoddle took over im not kidding, ask any wolves fans he doesnt scout lower leagues what you need to do nowadays, he buys prem cast offs who aged 30+ he appoints his brother as a scout who''s size on hartson scalehe then has his brother standing pre match warm up n picking up the odd ball, so where is he scouting?i quite happy for you to take hoddle i dont know why you lot think im not n worriedim just warning youi want him sign up now, most norwich fans understand he crap in this leaguebut some obv dont Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted October 13, 2007 [quote user="Scromitus"]I hear things are progressing as expected. Glenn is very interested in taking Norwich to the next level.[/quote]How''s it progressing at the moment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worf 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Trust meHe really isn''t.My mate, a major shareholder, says that the board don''t feel that he has the passion. He has ''too many credentials''. He has nothing to prove. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stozza 0 Posted October 13, 2007 He is not my first choice but I would take him as the next boss. His record at club level is good overall and he likes to play football the right way. At international level he done reasonably well but his comments that got him the sack would worry me. The faith healer he used with the England players caused a lot of bad press but the players said they where never forced to see her. And if a faith healer works for one player then it''s worth trying. No premiership team would take him as a manager so the best he could hope for is a Championship club, so maybe he might end up at Carrow Road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted October 13, 2007 ''My mate, a major shareholder, says that the board don''t feel that he has the passion. He has ''too many credentials''. He has nothing to prove.'' Norwich need somebody with credentials..... that means experience and a good track record!! No more keen and untried managers because we have made too many wrong decisions and we cannot afford another relegation. Hoddle is keen because he still wants to prove himself a major success, and he has NOT been out of the game long at all. This time the board must go for EXPERIENCE.... not the cheap option !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted October 14, 2007 [quote user="stozza"]He is not my first choice but I would take him as the next boss. His record at club level is good overall and he likes to play football the right way. At international level he done reasonably well but his comments that got him the sack would worry me. The faith healer he used with the England players caused a lot of bad press but the players said they where never forced to see her. And if a faith healer works for one player then it''s worth trying. No premiership team would take him as a manager so the best he could hope for is a Championship club, so maybe he might end up at Carrow Road. [/quote]Keep the faith (healer). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southstand 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Why all the negatives about Glen Hoodle - he has a track record - more so than the previos managerwho should try managing greyhoundsYes I think that Glen might have a chance of revitalising City - I was not in agreementwith the decision to eject Worthington - but the starry eyed visionaries thought Grant could regainPremiership status....Not a chance, his last chance, with me, came when he ''released'' Safri, the only midfield player we hadIt''s obvious that Jarvis and Russell cannot create from midfield and Croft and Huckerby are not caplable of making up the numbers in this key areaYes - go for Glen - he would sort the midfield out as a number one priorityHis first decision would be to find a Safri replacement - Grant didn''t have a clue on this issueThe strikers , and Huckerby would get alot more quality balls -and perhaps chancesI have read a lot of posts and many do not want an ex England manager withexperience of premier league management - perhaps they prefer an assistant with no experiece-who immediately dispensers with his full time coach - inevitable failureSign up Glen and get us out of this mess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hog 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Rather Hoddle than Duffy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted October 14, 2007 [quote user="David Knights"]Why all the negatives about Glen Hoodle - he has a track record - more so than the previos managerwho should try managing greyhoundsYes I think that Glen might have a chance of revitalising City - I was not in agreementwith the decision to eject Worthington - but the starry eyed visionaries thought Grant could regainPremiership status....Not a chance, his last chance, with me, came when he ''released'' Safri, the only midfield player we hadIt''s obvious that Jarvis and Russell cannot create from midfield and Croft and Huckerby are not caplable of making up the numbers in this key areaYes - go for Glen - he would sort the midfield out as a number one priorityHis first decision would be to find a Safri replacement - Grant didn''t have a clue on this issueThe strikers , and Huckerby would get alot more quality balls -and perhaps chancesI have read a lot of posts and many do not want an ex England manager withexperience of premier league management - perhaps they prefer an assistant with no experiece-who immediately dispensers with his full time coach - inevitable failureSign up Glen and get us out of this mess [/quote]the fact u didnt want Worthington out says it all.... he''d of taken us down last season if he''d been left in charge.. and if u think otherwise then ur very very wrong! Glenn Hoddle is a useless manager... got promoted with Swindon but made a fist of his time at Chelski and Wolves and lets not forget the 1st round Exits and the gazza fiasco leading up the the 2000 European championships and world cups...he might of been a dcent player but he is a shocking manager... i''d sooner of kept Grant than have Hoddle!jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings 0 Posted October 14, 2007 [quote user="we8wba"]lets keep this norwich based, i got 1st hand opinion on twoddle n his dire football ask any wolves fan and theyll tell you the same, you''ll find it hard to hear a true wolves fan (whos not armchair supporter) to say twoddle was goodas wolves board - i think you''ll find the only board which poor hasnt been in helm for last 20yrs, sir jack put in 60m into the team, n morgan has so far provided fundsthe boards has never signed a player for us unlike yours whos obv bought in hartsonyou can get all angry n defensive but lets face it mate our board n manager better than yours in the last few years (not saying that wont change though)[/quote]You''re making vast and stupid assumptions.I didn''t question your experiences or opinions with Hoddle, nor did I question his achievements at Wolves. Hoddle was, without a doubt, not the right man for Wolves and that''s why they got rid. Nor did I question about how much your board put in.Our board has not "bought in" Hartson; that was obviously something Grant had started that Duffy sanctioned in his role as caretaker. And frankly I agree with the move. IMO, Hartson is a far better player than Boothroyd.Further, our board and manager in the last few years have taken us to the Premiership. And then gotten us into this mess. It''s a game of change as you rightly say and I think on the balance of things, it''d be hard to argue the superiority of either side in such terms. We''ve both been disappointing, to say the least.My point, however, stands. You cannot comment on being linked with poor managers. Even when Mick was appointed you were being linked with poor managers and prior to that, have hired poor managers. You are being a smug, hypocritical numpty. You''re welcome to post here, but don''t go lording over us as you are now. Frankly, you''re being a bit of a prat; and I''m sure my fellow Canaries here would agree. So stop acting like a nonce or leave this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings 0 Posted October 14, 2007 [quote user="David Knights"]Why all the negatives about Glen Hoodle - he has a track record - more so than the previos manager[/quote]I think, David, the worry concerning Hoddle is that his heart wouldn''t be in it and his man management skills are atrocious! We need someone capable of building a destroyed team spirit and individual''s confidence. I personally think there would be worse appointments than Hoddle; but equally I think there are far, far better out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Pilkington 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Would the team then run out to "Diamond Lights"?? I''d just got used to Clubfoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,373 Posted October 14, 2007 I dont like club foot, most of the singing sounds like someones dropped ice cubes down his back and he doesnt particularly appreciate it.There are SO many better songs out there- how about All Fired Up by Pat Benatar? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=koeN2YVVMwY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern 0 Posted October 14, 2007 As if we havent got enough problems now. Glenn Hoddle !!!!. Adam Drury at left back, Eileen Drewery at right back, David Ike up front and the boys runnig out to Boy Georges "Karma Chamelion". CHRIST NO.......NOT HODDLE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
we8wba 0 Posted October 14, 2007 as you know i am very anti hoddlebut i will agree with the one comment saying some managers do better jobs at other teams, that is agreed he may come n do brill job, but from my first hand viewing of him, i would honestly put him worst manager in last 10 years for wolves since grgham taylor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites