blahblahblah 2 Posted September 11, 2007 I don''t know if it''s been mentioned on here before, but it might trigger some debate so here goes :The Independents'' Survey of footballer wages - 2006.[quote]The average basic annual Championship salary is now £195,750, up from £128,000 six years ago, or an increase of 53 per cent.[/quote]I reckon that the championship average makes us an above average payer, on the basis of the figures suggested on here for some of our first team. Unprovable I suppose. What I get from this is the unsustainability of the whole thing. On the basis of a 53 per cent increase in wages over the last 6 seasons, with no doubt more to follow this season, and diminishing TV revenue, can any football club be run at a profit ? [:0] [;)]What The Independent''s survey revealed AVERAGE BASIC WAGEPremiership £676,000Championship £195,750League One £67,850League Two £49,600AVERAGE BASIC WAGE BY AGE GROUPPremiershipAge 17-18 £24,500Age 19-20 £95,000Age 21-22 £390,000Age 23-24 £582,500Age 25-26 £653,000Age 27-28 £899,500Age 29-30 £806,000Age 31-32 £586,000Age 33+ £660,500Average* £676,000ChampionshipAge 17-18 £22,500Age 19-20 £43,700Age 21-22 £79,000Age 23-24 £79,200Age 25-26 £136,000Age 27-28 £261,850Age 29-30 £247,000Age 31-32 £247,000Age 33+ £195,700Average* £195,750League OneAge 17-18 **Age 19-20 £18,950Age 21-22 £52,000Age 23-24 £61,650Age 25-26 £67,600Age 27-28 £71,750Age 29-30 £69,300Age 31-32 £87,000Age 33+ £72,000Average* £67,850League TwoAge 17-18 **Age 19-20 £16,000Age 21-22 £32,350Age 23-24 £43,650Age 25-26 £46,300Age 27-28 £47,300Age 29-30 £50,500Age 31-32 £52,000Age 33+ £45,800Average* £49,600*all players aged above 20. **insufficient sample pool for meaningful average.AVERAGE BASIC WAGE BY PLAYING POSITION PremChampionshipLeague 1League 2 Goalkeeper£533,000£179,500£53,500£45,900 Defender£653,000£167,000£61,000£44,400 Midfielder£754,000£185,950£79,000£46,800 Forward£806,000£292,900£75,000£67,900 Overall£676,000£195,750£67,850£49,600 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graeme Miles 0 Posted September 11, 2007 unbelievable, and thats average! I''d be interested to see what quality of player is pulling down an average salary? For instance, Safri was an average player, but I bet he was getting paid above that average figure!I wish I could play for Real Madrid for a week, on their average salary - it would set me up for years to come! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy_Bones 411 Posted September 11, 2007 What''s even scarier about this all is the fact that the average figures are being totally skewed by the selection of massively high earners at the bigger clubs.So Ballack with his suggested £140,000 per week at Chelsea would equate to £7,280,000 per year before tax!This is roughly 10.8 times greater than the average wage, meaning that to get the average, there would need to be approx 117 players on roughly £1,200 per week just to equal Ballack''s wages.In theory, this also means that with the likes of Lampard, Terry, Shevchenko, Drogba etc, Chelsea''s wage bill alone would consititute enough to pay for probably about 2000 players on about £2k per week!Shocking really... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted September 12, 2007 This proves conclusively we need a salary cap.. and if its run and managed in the same way it is in the NFL (where the leagues pay the wages... not the clubs) then theres no way it will be exploited like it is in Rugby League!jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Le Juge 0 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="jas the barclay king"]This proves conclusively we need a salary cap.. and if its run and managed in the same way it is in the NFL (where the leagues pay the wages... not the clubs) then theres no way it will be exploited like it is in Rugby League!jas :)[/quote]Has to be worldwide though otherwise the good players will all bugger off to Spain, Italy etc. Personally not sure that''d be such a bad thing - we have TV''s and could watch them on the TV still while at least then we might play some young English talent in our country but that''s another debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted September 12, 2007 If the only reason for not having a salary cap is that English teams wouldn''t do so well in the Champions League, I could live with that if it made the English game fairer. However, with a salary cap, wouldn''t the Manchester Uniteds and Arsenals just get bigger and bigger squads of the leftovers ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Judge 0 Posted September 12, 2007 If that is the average it just shows how overpaid some of the muppets Worthington bought in since relegation were.I understand our players wage bill last season was around £9m - if you divide that by the average salary we would have had 45 professional players on the books. We all know that wasn''t the case and our squad was widely touted to be too small - which it was.It was rumoured that Thorne was on £9k a week - thats £468k a year, Hughes £8k a week - thats £416k a year. Robinson, Fleming, McVeigh were also on good wages. God knows what Earnie was on, but I guess it was well over £10k a week - and Hucks will be in that bracket also.I have been, and still am highly critical of our board and how they have managed the clubs finances over the past 4/5 years, but if you take the above in to account you can''t say they haven''t put the money up over the past couple of seasons. Its just that we have had, and signed, very poor players that haven''t delivered for the money they have been getting paid - a responsibility that must lie with the scouting system, and the first team management and coaches. It re-inforces the fact that this years bargain basement buys have been to re-address our wage bill and bring them back to Championship average. Unfortunately it will also result in us being an average championship club........which brings us back to the debate on the vital need new investment if we are to challenge in this league again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My spoon is too big! 20 Posted September 12, 2007 Thanks for posting that. It was the most interesting post I''ve seen on here for a good couple of weeks!Also worth bearing in mind what the article states, and that''s BASIC salary. Additional payments for actually playing, and performance-based incentives often see the Premiership salaries double! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites