Michael Starr 519 Posted August 28, 2007 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_2691349,00.htmlSuch a shame... his collapse is on youtube, he appeared to fall to his knees, then collapse... they brought him round on the spot and he walked off the pitch only to collapse again in the dressing room moments later... he died today... it''s Vivien Foe all over again. Horrible, just horrible! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jerzy Krukowski 5 Posted August 28, 2007 hmm, a shame certainly. Makes me wonder about steroids to be honest. Hope that''s not the case, poor sod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom NCFC 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Isn''t it the same thing that happened to Marc Vivien-Foe?Poor Antonio, he was so young, i''m alway 2 years younger than him so it''s wierd to think about that sort of thing.Hopefully he''s someplace betterRIP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InLambertWeTrust! 0 Posted August 28, 2007 RIP Antonio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 519 Posted August 28, 2007 [quote user="SPat"]hmm, a shame certainly. Makes me wonder about steroids to be honest. Hope that''s not the case, poor sod.[/quote]That was my initial thought... but the three cases of this... Vivien Foe, Maher, and now this all point to heat exhaustion. Viivy was playing for Cameroon, Maher was in Portugal, and Puerta was in Spain... all three were also in the Summer. So i think it could be a lack of match fitness along with extreme heat putting extra pressure on the vitals... i don''t know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DisorientatedCanary 0 Posted August 28, 2007 sounds like something similar has happened at Notts Forest Vs Leicester. someones collasped, and its been abandoned, hopefully, its not as bad as previous examples!!!. good luck Clive Clark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InLambertWeTrust! 0 Posted August 28, 2007 What is going on? 2 footballers in the last week have died (sorry if ive forgotten anybody) and now Clive Clarke has collapsed. Get well soon Clive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buncey 1 Posted August 28, 2007 Bloody hell clive clarke collapsed for Leicester. What''s going on. This is really sad. His poor family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breaker2 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Feher, and Vivien Foe died of heart defects, and it was reported that Puerta had suffered from faints before, although there is also a rumour of possible doping.Clive Clarke collapsed on his way to the dressing room, but was recovered and taken to hospital, he is thought to be stable.thats all that has been reported so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DONT REMEMBER YOUR TENURE AS ENGLAND MANAGER 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Oh my goodness, just home from work. I actually watched this game on Sunday and it was shocking watching this incident happen. I had no idea it was as serious as this. What a tragdy.Rest in Peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Really sad. Just 22 but was a very talented footballer. Definetly had a big future and would have been a regular for Spain without doubt. His girlfriend is also 8 months pregnant so he had a bright future on and off the pitch..I follow La Liga, known of Puerta for a while, hasn''t sunk in that he''s died. He did have a heart condition and had fainted twice in the last few months though, so the signs were there.RIP Antonio.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjCkuub6684 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom NCFC 0 Posted August 30, 2007 [quote user="C.T"]What is going on? 2 footballers in the last week have died (sorry if ive forgotten anybody) and now Clive Clarke has collapsed. Get well soon Clive.[/quote]Two?Antonio Puerta and.........who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted August 30, 2007 It''s three...Chaswe Nsofwa, a former Zambia international, collapsed and died of heart failure during a training session with his Israeli club side, Hapoel Beersheba.And a week before Puerta, Walsall''s 16-year-old youth-team player Anton Reid inexplicably collapsed on the training ground and died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom NCFC 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Jesus christHave a read of this http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2158583,00.html sounds like a bloody good idea if you ask me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flying blue aviator 0 Posted August 30, 2007 See todays Independent for a detailed artiocle. Not as uncommon as you would think, but usually only high profile footballers/athletes make the news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savenell 0 Posted August 30, 2007 tom i think he was on about ray jones who died in the car crash but i could be wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InLambertWeTrust! 0 Posted August 30, 2007 yes i was, i know that how he died wasnt football related however its still a tragic death all the same (altough any death is tragic) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Jedi 0 Posted August 30, 2007 [quote user="Michael Starr"]http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_2691349,00.htmlSuch a shame... his collapse is on youtube, he appeared to fall to his knees, then collapse... they brought him round on the spot and he walked off the pitch only to collapse again in the dressing room moments later... he died today... it''s Vivien Foe all over again. Horrible, just horrible![/quote]Reminds me a little of this footage below, of Miklos Feher - gets carded by the ref, has a laugh and joke, bends over - then dead. Unbelievably tragic... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8mzeRVuDBU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shack Attack 0 Posted August 30, 2007 [quote user="ob1"][quote user="Michael Starr"] http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_2691349,00.htmlSuch a shame... his collapse is on youtube, he appeared to fall to his knees, then collapse... they brought him round on the spot and he walked off the pitch only to collapse again in the dressing room moments later... he died today... it''s Vivien Foe all over again. Horrible, just horrible![/quote]Reminds me a little of this footage below, of Miklos Feher - gets carded by the ref, has a laugh and joke, bends over - then dead. Unbelievably tragic... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8mzeRVuDBU[/quote]Do we really need to have YouTube clips of footballers dying posted here?Isn''t it a tiny bit sick?His death is a tragedy, but I don''t need to see super slo-mo replays to tell me that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sing Up The South Stand 0 Posted August 30, 2007 [quote user="ob1"][quote user="Michael Starr"] http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_2691349,00.htmlSuch a shame... his collapse is on youtu0W, he appeared to fall to his knees, then collapse... they brought him round on the spot and he walked off the pitch only to collapse again in the dressing room moments later... he died today... it''s Vivien Foe all over again. Horrible, just horrible![/quote]Reminds me a little of this footage below, of Miklos Feher - gets carded by the ref, has a laugh and joke, bends over - then dead. Unbelievably tragic... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8mzeRVuDBU[/quote] oh my god that is horrible, don''t know why i watched it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Jedi 0 Posted August 30, 2007 [quote user="Mark Rivers..."][quote user="ob1"][quote user="Michael Starr"] http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_2691349,00.htmlSuch a shame... his collapse is on youtu0W, he appeared to fall to his knees, then collapse... they brought him round on the spot and he walked off the pitch only to collapse again in the dressing room moments later... he died today... it''s Vivien Foe all over again. Horrible, just horrible![/quote]Reminds me a little of this footage below, of Miklos Feher - gets carded by the ref, has a laugh and joke, bends over - then dead. Unbelievably tragic... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8mzeRVuDBU[/quote]oh my god that is horrible, don''t know why i watched it![/quote]Yeah - it''s of someone actually dying... it''s not gonna be nice!Thinking about it, I''m not sure I''ve ever seen footage of a real person dying before that... it is disturbing. Especially since 5 seconds before he is collapses he is smiling, joking and looking perfectly normal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DONT REMEMBER YOUR TENURE AS ENGLAND MANAGER 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Agreed, wish I hadn''t watched it, very disturbing.Just so tragic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted August 30, 2007 Was surprised to hear today that the former West Ham player Jeroen Boere (remember him?) died a couple of weeks ago in an accident in Spain. Not seen the YouTube footage of the Marc Vivien Foe death etc, am surprised YouTube get away with what they do to be honest... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted August 30, 2007 you tubes excuse is "wwe dont make people look at it" which is true.. unfortunately i guess peoples Morbid Curioosity gets the better of them.. there was a contriversial website a few years back called www.rotten.com which was in the press as it had pictures of autopsies, corpses, disfiguring injuries etc... It billed itself as an educational site and got millions of hits daily despite the fact the stuff it was showing was nothing short of hideos.. i have no idear what happened to the site, this is going back a few years so i would of hoped it would of been closed down! They basically had a disclaimer on the front page warning people what they could expect and according to the Media reports told any potential viewrs that as a result of entering the site the administrators absolved all legal responsibilityperhaps you tube do the same?I have to say i dont think that Youtube will last much longer on the Internet. Sooner or later they will get hit with a legal writ forcing them to close down for good.. some might say good.jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted August 30, 2007 The video is shocking. However, death is a harsh fact of life, and no that is not a contradiction. I have no issues of the videos being in the public domain, especially in the format of youtube where the two that I watched as a result of reading this thread were setup as a tribute to the person, in a way I suppose to celebrate their life. What I would have an issue with would be if the family requested that they were removed and they were not. If people accessed the video through this thread they knew what they would be watching.I will make no more comment on this as there is danger of the thread going off topic.In relation to footballers dying as a result of playing football, more stringent screening would be a good idea. But as mentioned in a link on this thread, you would not catch everyone, inexplical deaths would still happen, as they do throughout all walks of life, another harsh reality of how fragile our lives really are. I incorrectly assumed that there were already regular cardio screening tests conducted throughout football in the UK, Germany, Italy, Spain, Holland etc. And it appears that there is not, which I think is the most shocking thing about this whole incident, especially in this day and age and with all the money floating about the game. This could be extended past football to other sports as well. Football on the whole is ''normally'' a good industry to be in. I know careers are short, but in many European countries the conditions and pay are good. Other so called glitzy industries in reality are normally not as glitzy as they look on the surface. The world of ''sports entertainment'' as epitomised by WWE is one of the most notorious for working conditions. The number of ''wrestlers'' and I use the term very losely here who die under the age of 40 is unbelievable.If there is not a campaign for regular cardio screening in football and other sports, it would be a good idea to start one. Saving just one life would make it worthwhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 519 Posted August 30, 2007 It appears that this is more common than originally reported, and hopefully... footage (as horrid as it is) may kick start some new specific testing and procedure... didn''t Chadwick collapse for Stoke a couple of seasons back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted August 31, 2007 Seems like i''m surrounded by heart attacks at the moment, watched my dog suddenly pass away after running around a bit in the park. Looked similar to the footballers deaths. I reckon it must just be the sun, and too much adreneline pumping, be that because of drugs, heart conditions, or sheer unluckiness with metabolism. Surely there should be a defibrilator on the sidelines of every profensional football game! My local team Harrogate town have the right idea! build the stadium next to the hospital! (well the hospital was after the stadium, but anyway!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted August 31, 2007 [quote user="Michael Starr"]didn''t Chadwick collapse for Stoke a couple of seasons back?[/quote]He did, through dehydration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canary cherub 1 Posted August 31, 2007 [quote user="Jimmy Smith"]Seems like i''m surrounded by heart attacks at the moment, watched my dog suddenly pass away after running around a bit in the park. Looked similar to the footballers deaths. I reckon it must just be the sun, and too much adreneline pumping, be that because of drugs, heart conditions, or sheer unluckiness with metabolism. Surely there should be a defibrilator on the sidelines of every profensional football game! My local team Harrogate town have the right idea! build the stadium next to the hospital! (well the hospital was after the stadium, but anyway!)[/quote]Agreed Jimmy. I''m not sure if people realise how close to death Clive Clarke was the other night. His heart had stopped and if they hadn''t had a defibrillator he would almost certainly have died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudolph Hucker 0 Posted August 31, 2007 The fitter you are the nearer you are to injury. I wonder if our players are pushed so hard on the fitness front this is why they break down.If we were a nation which valued technique more the necessity to compensate for the lack by constant running would be obviated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites