The money in the pot

[blahblahblah 2]

Ignoring positive and negative for a bit on this thread, if I may, and if it is possible, let''s indulge in a bit of fantasy football.We''ve missed out on Varney and Sharp, and in simplistic terms the Earnshaw money appears to have covered the 6 signings announced in the last couple of weeks.  So, in theory, there is still money in the pot, given that the bids for Marshall (500k) and Sharp (2m+ ) were on the table before Earnshaw left.If you have between 2 and 3 million pounds left to spend, who would you sign ?  Would you go all out on a "win-win" signing such as Ashton or Earnshaw, or spread your money about to improve strength in depth ?  Or would you save your money for Xmas ?

[Syteanric 1]

id spend 2 million now, then keep the rest for the muddy boots and pulled hamstrings of the barren winter.

 Not sure who id get in... a center back would be a definate, maybe Leon Cort, Bobby Hassell at Barnsley is a nother possible who seems to do well every week.

jas :)

[UEA Canary 0]

norwich must sign a couple of quality defenders because we lack depth and decetn cover in that area. davenport wud be great signing and i cant see why he wudnt want to coem coz he wont play at west ham. also maybe a loan signing from premiership. an attacking centre midfielder wud be nice too, kris commons of forest is a top player i think and he''d be a quality signing for norwich.

[Stevie Wonder 0]

I''d sell Hughes, Gallacher, Colin & Safri which should bring in at least a million giving me a pot of £4M. I would then sign;

Collins or Davenport from West Ham for £1.5m

Macleod from MK Dons for £750K

Dixon from Dundee for £250K

Marney from Hull £500K

This leaves a £1M for emergency loans etc in the event of injuries.

[Wings 0]

Sam Sodje from Reading for £750k and Ryan Shawcross on loan to cover the center back positions.

Paul Dixon from Dundee for £250k to give Drury someone to fight for his place.

Then I''d save the rest and make sure anyone leaving is replaced as well.

[SM 0]

If I had £3million to spend

Sam Sodje - £750,000

Paul Dixon - £250,000

David Mirfin - £500,000

Ben Watson - £1,000,000

 

I would then sell Gallacher and Hughes, then loan out a lot of the youth players.

[Tetteys Jig 830]

"Muddy boots and pulled hamstrings"! what a quote, sums up our failingsin the past 2/3 seasons and the whole point of the Jan Transfer window!

[ZLF 274]

I would look to spend at least half of the money now and target the known weak points by signing creativity/ability to pass in the middle of the park and competition at centre back.

The reason I would save some money is that at least two of the summer signings will fluff their lines due to injury, not settling, not being as good as we hoped, and so some contingency to push on with loans or signings in the new year may be needed. 

[mbncfc 1]

Ben Watson from Palace in midfield.

A qaulity centre back, although I still struggle who. Collins, Davenport, O''Brien or Griffin I guess.

That would see me please, and us probably out of money.

 

[UEA Canary 0]

id just like to point out that emergency loans are not permitted anymore. football league clubs can only get players on loan during transfer windows and they cant be short term deals either, they have to go right thru to at least a transfer window, ie minimum 5-6 months.

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote]creativity/ability to pass in the middle of the park[/quote]Do you not see Etuhu as our playmaker ?  He can certainly score the odd goal, maybe we''ll see more attacking flair from him with Brellier backing him up ?  I guess a fair bit of the creativity will come from the wings.  If Safri leaves, a decent quality replacement needs to arrive.  The problem you have there is who will be happy to play for a squad place when Etuhu and Brellier look to be first choice ?  We also definitely need a centre back to keep Shackell and Doherty on their toes, although I think they should be more comfortable this season than last, now that Otsemobor, Marshall (and Gilks), and Brellier are in the door.I agree that we should keep some money in the pot for a couple of key signings, who knows where we will be in January, and who might become available.

[mbncfc 1]

[quote user="DION is the king"]id just like to point out that emergency loans are not permitted anymore. football league clubs can only get players on loan during transfer windows and they cant be short term deals either, they have to go right thru to at least a transfer window, ie minimum 5-6 months.[/quote]

Is this right? No more 1 month loan deals at all?

[canarychris 0]

If Saf leaves then Watson would be a decent replacement, would then add Davenport and Kenton which would give us cover across the back and Dean Marney to do similar across the midfield. Still think we could do with another striker with pace but not sure who, possibly a young Prem player on loan would fit in nicely.

[Graham Humphrey 13]

[quote user="DION is the king"]id just like to point out that emergency loans are not permitted anymore. football league clubs can only get players on loan during transfer windows and they cant be short term deals either, they have to go right thru to at least a transfer window, ie minimum 5-6 months.[/quote]

If that is true then it''s absolutely crazy.

[ZLF 274]

I guess I have always had a problem with anyone being first choice;   for me that is the essence of the problem with etuhu,  he knows there is no alternative to him and so we get variable quality performances - competition would be good for him and the club and all new signings should be thinking they can oust the current job holder.

No - I do not see him as a creative or passing player.  He is one of the worst types of footballers that England seem to specialise in;  the power player.  Those can cover ground and harry but in reality is an athlete ahead of a footballer- their tackling is poor so while they can intimidate players and stand in the way they dont win back possession frequently enough,  when they have the ball their vision limits their options,  which is limited further by the lack of quality to get the ball to a colleague.  Take the ''energy'' out of their performance and they offer little - which sums up Etuhu to a T. 

Our creativity should not just come from the flanks,  just as the defensive duties should not be central;  there are 4 midfield roles and a midfielder needs to tackle, run, head, pass, cover ground.  What I feel our midfield lacks (count hux as an attacker) is the quality ball work and an ability to go past a player - hence my desire to see that type of playr added to the squad.  That could be fozzy,  if he adapts to thepace of champs football.... 

 

 

[Mello Yello 2,289]

I''d prefer to spend the money on refurbishing ''Scores'' into a supreme eating and meeting establishment and re-name/re-brand it into "YELLOWS"..........Damn! Deals no Deals and the board have beaten me to it!

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote]I''d prefer to spend the money on refurbishing ''Scores'' into a supreme

eating and meeting establishment and re-name/re-brand it into

"YELLOWS"..........Damn! Deals no Deals and the board have beaten me to

it![/quote]Yep, and they did it with their own money, before anybody bleats on about spending football club money on businesses.Has SOB got his new seat yet ?

[Mello Yello 2,289]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]I''d prefer to spend the money on refurbishing ''Scores'' into a supreme eating and meeting establishment and re-name/re-brand it into "YELLOWS"..........Damn! Deals no Deals and the board have beaten me to it![/quote]

Yep, and they did it with their own money, before anybody bleats on about spending football club money on businesses.

Has SOB got his new seat yet ?
[/quote]

Did they really? Well I''ll be a horses a**! My, what sterling folk we have at Carra. And I wonder where the profits will go to? Back into funding the squad? Will you be there at the grand opening wafting your autograph book and thrusting your big red crayon into the celebrideeez and the troo saviours of the club''s beaming faces?

So, you are saying that they''re doing it with their own dosh and they don''t expect anything in return?

Marvellous![:|] Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote]Did they really? Well I''ll be a horses a**! [/quote]

For your delight and delectation, Mr Mello sir.

[quote]Yellows! Yellows! Yellows! That is yet again the buzz word at Carrow

Road. Not just the thrill of a new season, but a whole new venture.[/quote] 

Not ''arf, great mate !  Who writes this stuff ?

[quote]Thanks to a loan from Delia and Michael our old but tired friend

Scores Restaurant has been gutted, given a classy makeover and is about

to become a friendly, New-York style diner for football fans, families,

hotel guests, Riverside residents and others who won''t mind driving a

mile or two for great food.

After already contributing £3.2 million in operating profits, and

being voted third-best matchday catering at football grounds in Europe,

Delia''s Canary Catering team are set to increase club profits still

further and, at the same time, serve the local community, offering the

same high standards as in the rest of the operation.

Catering General Manager, Steve Smith, commented: "We have to

continue to attract people to our football club to increase our revenue

in between matches, seven days a week, and Yellows will help to achieve

this."

Yellows will be advertising this week for staff to work both front of house and in the kitchens.[/quote]Should I be lucky enough to work in the kitchens ( The protruding tooth and facial warts might mean that I fail the front of house audition ), I''d be toiling away while honoured and esteemed guests make ludricous demands in a Nooyork diner style.  So dat''s fower pastrami''s on royeee, 3 sammin baygils, hold the mayo, anya worn da lettuce ornda soide ?Anywun warna kworrrfeee ?Sadly, I feel that my hygiene levels might not be up to working in the kitchens.  And the running around in a hot kitchen might be bad for my figure (of eight).  So I''ll carry on sitting down for a living.

[nutty nigel 7,531]

ZLF - I agree with you to a certain extent about the type of player Etuhu is and the job that he does. But it''s the way the game is played now, especially in this country. Both Safri and Etuhu can pass the ball and Safri is better at it, but his principal job is not that of a playmaker like we used to know them. His principal job is as a spoiler to stop the opposition having any time on the ball. Ian Crook would struggle to be effective in todays game I''m afraid.

Etuhu''s power and engine and size and the fact he is an athlete first and foremost is what makes him so valuable in todays game. He was a shrewd signing by Worthington who had chased him ever since Francis went. We wouldn''t have got him for 500,000 if there hadn''t been problems at Preston and if Grant manages to get a full and consistent season out of him I doubt we will be able to hold onto him in this league.

I believe the best place for creativity is in the final third. So my view is that we should get the ball up there to the creative players as quickly as possible. The quicker they get the ball the more room they will have to be creative. I''m not advocating hoofball, but fast running and power from midfield.

 

[Mello Yello 2,289]

[quote user="blahblahblah"]
[quote]Did they really? Well I''ll be a horses a**! [/quote]

For your delight and delectation, Mr Mello sir.

[quote]Yellows! Yellows! Yellows! That is yet again the buzz word at Carrow Road. Not just the thrill of a new season, but a whole new venture.[/quote] 

Not ''arf, great mate !  Who writes this stuff ?

[quote]Thanks to a loan from Delia and Michael our old but tired friend Scores Restaurant has been gutted, given a classy makeover and is about to become a friendly, New-York style diner for football fans, families, hotel guests, Riverside residents and others who won''t mind driving a mile or two for great food.

After already contributing £3.2 million in operating profits, and being voted third-best matchday catering at football grounds in Europe, Delia''s Canary Catering team are set to increase club profits still further and, at the same time, serve the local community, offering the same high standards as in the rest of the operation.

Catering General Manager, Steve Smith, commented: "We have to continue to attract people to our football club to increase our revenue in between matches, seven days a week, and Yellows will help to achieve this."

Yellows will be advertising this week for staff to work both front of house and in the kitchens.[/quote]

Should I be lucky enough to work in the kitchens ( The protruding tooth and facial warts might mean that I fail the front of house audition ), I''d be toiling away while honoured and esteemed guests make ludricous demands in a Nooyork diner style. 

So dat''s fower pastrami''s on royeee, 3 sammin baygils, hold the mayo, anya worn da lettuce ornda soide ?

Anywun warna kworrrfeee ?

Sadly, I feel that my hygiene levels might not be up to working in the kitchens.  And the running around in a hot kitchen might be bad for my figure (of eight).  So I''ll carry on sitting down for a living.


[/quote]

Oh, that''s strange. I thought you''d take up the offer of some sort of employment at "Yellows" (empty headed fruit trough wipin''?) funded by the "We care about the fans and the club" ''magnifico millionaires'' - if only to subsidise your income, (and in turn), temporarily escape your parental responsibilities and allow you to escape trudging to the North Norfolk coast on match-days, with your kinder in tow; an'' feasting on sossie an'' chips and pure organic ozone, occasionally watchin'' the "oink! oink" seals an'' the sailin'' boats tackin'' left an'' right an'' left an'' right etc, etc........Oh, an'' only being able to listen to Chris, Roy and Neil Adamski''s thoughts on games - an'' being deprived due to floundering finance, to witness the actually events visually - must be such a strain on how you equate your opinions on our fantabulous footballin'' feasts.......So, do you actually make it all up? Ray Dee Oh, Supporter? Or are you a firm believer in what''s written in the Naarfaalk Press.........."It''s all in black ''n'' white.....sooo it muz be troo!"

Me? I''m incredulously handsome, have a stunnin'' missus and with my superior astute intelligence, I''m able to arrange my hectic life and work con-mmitments, therefore, I go to all the games and many ''away days''.  I also have a young family, paid off my mortgage etc. But then again, I''m absolutely minted, drive a new car, holiday abroad, an'' sit reasonably close to the Demi-Gods at Carra.......and just see what I see.

That makes me a TRUE FAN!..........an'' you a part-timer who blows like a Dragon - but only produces smoke from a ''three strands o'' baccy'' rizla roll-up.......Now, I have a pair of marigolds an a brillo pad if you require the necessary ''tools'' to bring in that little extra - that''ll fund and allow you to see at first hand what you so energetically shout about from your soundproof cellar......

When applying for a job in ''Yellows'',  just mention in your CV that you absolutely adore the NCFC board and especially luvverly ''Our Saviour'' Delia, and that you regularly give that "narsty board bashin'' know nowt so-called supporter" ''Melliar Youliar'' a good run for his ''loadsa munny'' - when he types horribillus thingy''s about them......(allegedly).Which are totally unfounded and portray the magnificent frugal famileeeee club in a negative light......Then you''ll walk into the job - and they may even throw in an industrial bottle of fairy liquid, heavy duty pan scrubber - and a milk crate that you can stand on and watch the game from the ''Yellows'' kitchen window whilst you ''scrub a dub dub''......dub.

I''ve written it, it must be true.......because all the above, is from my honest and integral fingertips....

Journalism?.......Piece of P*ss....

I think I''ll change employment and become a ''Journo'' the pay''s shi**e - but boy is it fun!

D''yah think I''d make a good ''Journo'' Bleurgh?[:|] 

 

 

[ZLF 274]

Etuhu does have a future at this club NN and every club needs that sort of player,  I just despair that our game is so dominate by power in preference to touch players.   

I do disagree that Etuhus passing is much cop;  yes he can shuffle the ball (another feature of these athletes) on better than Hughes for example,  but we see no incisive passing from him,  and safri remains the only player at the club capable of that at the mo.

You are right that consistency (as with so many city players last season) is Etuhus biggest issue,  and that is exactly why we need another midfielder to push that consistency along;  anything that shakes the torpour from him has to be a good thing!  Creative play has to be in the final third,  but with the midfielders joiningt he attackers they have to have the ability to create a chance too.

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote]Oh, that''s strange. I thought you''d take up the offer of some sort

of employment at "Yellows" (empty headed fruit trough wipin''?) funded

by the "We care about the fans and the club" ''magnifico millionaires''

- if only to subsidise your income, (and in turn), temporarily escape

your parental responsibilities and allow you to escape trudging to the

North Norfolk coast on match-days, with your kinder in tow; an''

feasting on sossie an'' chips and pure organic ozone,

occasionally watchin'' the "oink! oink" seals an'' the sailin'' boats

tackin'' left an'' right an'' left an'' right etc, etc....[/quote]When I heard that the club was signing Semmy, I thought it was one of the seals off of Blakeney Point, Semmy the Seal, see what I did there ?  HaHaHa Ha, no, stop it, it hurts.Maybe we should swap for a weekend ?  The way you talk about the footy, I''d have thought that you would want to temporarily escape your responsibilities as a season ticket holder and trudging around the grate-ungrateful-unwashed with your programme and roll-ups in tow, feasting on a "3rd best in Europe - Champions League Semi-finalist" half-time pie, avoiding a cup of "I think it''s" soup, occasionally watching the "woooooooaah-yorrrr-spit-aaaaaaaaaaaaaah" Barclay, an'' the ball bobbing left an'' right an'' left an'' right in a game of Chumpionship ''ead tennis.[quote]So, do you actually make it all up? Ray Dee Oh, Supporter? Or are you a

firm believer in what''s written in the Naarfaalk Press.........."It''s

all in black ''n'' white.....sooo it muz be troo!"[/quote]Well, there''s an easy answer to that, I''m a gobsh!te.  I''m extremely good at talking crud about any subject.  Actually, most of my posts just ask people to back up what they''ve said, and offer an alternative view based upon the facts at hand, it''s only fair that if you''re going out of your way to knock the club that you have some basis in reality to do so.  An argument becomes stronger if it survives a challenge.  I also sometimes have crazy ideas like "Why don''t we sell the name of the stadium for 2 million a year or summing", and ask peoples opinions, so even if it''s all about football, it''s not always all about bein'' there. Where the actual football is concerned, I''ll happily admit that I have very little to say of my own, nickin'' an'' pilferin'' the best bits of Waghorn / Pinkun / Beeb, an'' generally bein'' annoyin'' in an "I knows best you know" authoritatative manner.  It''s one way to waste my work(shy) days.[quote]I''m able to arrange my hectic life and work con-mmitments, therefore, I

go to all the games and many ''away days''.  I also have a young family,

paid off my mortgage etc. But then again, I''m absolutely minted, drive

a new car, holiday abroad, an'' sit reasonably close to the Demi-Gods at

Carra.......and just see what I see.[/quote]God, life must be a drag for you.  What would I do with my money and time if I didn''t have a mortgage to pay off ?  I''d have to go and buy a football club or something.  I''d get really bored if I didn''t have to ( turn up for ) work.  I really appreciate getting to talk with the likes of you TEROO supporters, bein'' a part-time FM listenin'' windbag, it''s jolly decent of you to spare a bit of time out of your hecticerer schedule for the little guys. [:|][quote]I''m incredulously handsome, have a stunnin'' missus and with my superior astute intelligence...D''yah think I''d make a good ''Journo'' Bleurgh?[/quote]As far as reporting the facts, errr....  I''d certainly read anything you had to say Mello.

[Old Shuck 183]

[quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]

I guess I have always had a problem with anyone being first choice;   for me that is the essence of the problem with etuhu,  he knows there is no alternative to him and so we get variable quality performances - competition would be good for him and the club and all new signings should be thinking they can oust the current job holder.

No - I do not see him as a creative or passing player.  He is one of the worst types of footballers that England seem to specialise in;  the power player.  Those can cover ground and harry but in reality is an athlete ahead of a footballer- their tackling is poor so while they can intimidate players and stand in the way they dont win back possession frequently enough,  when they have the ball their vision limits their options,  which is limited further by the lack of quality to get the ball to a colleague.  Take the ''energy'' out of their performance and they offer little - which sums up Etuhu to a T. 

Our creativity should not just come from the flanks,  just as the defensive duties should not be central;  there are 4 midfield roles and a midfielder needs to tackle, run, head, pass, cover ground.  What I feel our midfield lacks (count hux as an attacker) is the quality ball work and an ability to go past a player - hence my desire to see that type of playr added to the squad.  That could be fozzy,  if he adapts to thepace of champs football.... 

 

Spot on! Football now seems to be about getting atheletes to play football, rather the other way round! Dickson is a prime example, full of muscle, energy and running but little creativity or footballing nous. Ashley Cole is a great example, I don''t think he is half the footballer or left back that Wayne Bridge is, but he gets the nod at Chelsea and England because he is a power player-fit, hard as teak and runs all day.

There is room for a fit and motivated Dickson in the team, don''t get me wrong-but he needs a completely different sort of player alongside him, else we need an option.

 

 

[/quote]

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

Etuhu''s power and engine and size and the fact he is an athlete first and foremost is what makes him so valuable in todays game. He was a shrewd signing by Worthington who had chased him ever since Francis went. We wouldn''t have got him for 500,000 if there hadn''t been problems at Preston and if Grant manages to get a full and consistent season out of him I doubt we will be able to hold onto him in this league.

[/quote]

Considering our midfield has been a weak area these last two seasons he ain''t been doing that great a job.  And he was utterly useless during his first season here.  As for his lack of consistency, well thats why he lost his starting place at Preston - nothing has changed as yet.

His passing is poor, he has pace and power but he does not often combine the two, being easily brushed off the ball at times. When he wins the ball, unlike Francis who used to drive forward, Etuhu often dallies with the ball before passing backwards.  He does not get forward often enough and his decision making at times is chronic.

That said, he has some technique on the ball at times, and if he used his strength and power more often he could be an exceptional player.  Does he have a footballing brain??  Not really - and I think this along with his weak mental aspects are his main problems. 

[Mello Yello 2,289]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Oh, that''s strange. I thought you''d take up the offer of some sort of employment at "Yellows" (empty headed fruit trough wipin''?) funded by the "We care about the fans and the club" ''magnifico millionaires'' - if only to subsidise your income, (and in turn), temporarily escape your parental responsibilities and allow you to escape trudging to the North Norfolk coast on match-days, with your kinder in tow; an'' feasting on sossie an'' chips and pure organic ozone, occasionally watchin'' the "oink! oink" seals an'' the sailin'' boats tackin'' left an'' right an'' left an'' right etc, etc....[/quote]

When I heard that the club was signing Semmy, I thought it was one of the seals off of Blakeney Point, Semmy the Seal, see what I did there ?  HaHaHa Ha, no, stop it, it hurts.

Maybe we should swap for a weekend ?  The way you talk about the footy, I''d have thought that you would want to temporarily escape your responsibilities as a season ticket holder and trudging around the grate-ungrateful-unwashed with your programme and roll-ups in tow, feasting on a "3rd best in Europe - Champions League Semi-finalist" half-time pie, avoiding a cup of "I think it''s" soup, occasionally watching the "woooooooaah-yorrrr-spit-aaaaaaaaaaaaaah" Barclay, an'' the ball bobbing left an'' right an'' left an'' right in a game of Chumpionship ''ead tennis.

[quote]So, do you actually make it all up? Ray Dee Oh, Supporter? Or are you a firm believer in what''s written in the Naarfaalk Press.........."It''s all in black ''n'' white.....sooo it muz be troo!"[/quote]

Well, there''s an easy answer to that, I''m a gobsh!te.  I''m extremely good at talking crud about any subject.  Actually, most of my posts just ask people to back up what they''ve said, and offer an alternative view based upon the facts at hand, it''s only fair that if you''re going out of your way to knock the club that you have some basis in reality to do so.  An argument becomes stronger if it survives a challenge.  I also sometimes have crazy ideas like "Why don''t we sell the name of the stadium for 2 million a year or summing", and ask peoples opinions, so even if it''s all about football, it''s not always all about bein'' there. Where the actual football is concerned, I''ll happily admit that I have very little to say of my own, nickin'' an'' pilferin'' the best bits of Waghorn / Pinkun / Beeb, an'' generally bein'' annoyin'' in an "I knows best you know" authoritatative manner.  It''s one way to waste my work(shy) days.

[quote]I''m able to arrange my hectic life and work con-mmitments, therefore, I go to all the games and many ''away days''.  I also have a young family, paid off my mortgage etc. But then again, I''m absolutely minted, drive a new car, holiday abroad, an'' sit reasonably close to the Demi-Gods at Carra.......and just see what I see.[/quote]

God, life must be a drag for you.  What would I do with my money and time if I didn''t have a mortgage to pay off ?  I''d have to go and buy a football club or something.  I''d get really bored if I didn''t have to ( turn up for ) work.  I really appreciate getting to talk with the likes of you TEROO supporters, bein'' a part-time FM listenin'' windbag, it''s jolly decent of you to spare a bit of time out of your hecticerer schedule for the little guys. [:|]

[quote]I''m incredulously handsome, have a stunnin'' missus and with my superior astute intelligence...D''yah think I''d make a good ''Journo'' Bleurgh?[/quote]

As far as reporting the facts, errr....  I''d certainly read anything you had to say Mello.
[/quote]

Even if you copy and paste till your keyboard turns to milk, you''re still an untrue fan who doesn''t attend games - and therefore have no place on this message board. So, ''narf orf'' and make extra room for my exceptional gargantuan ego; as I have so much to say, and so little room in cyber-space to say it........and everybody enjoys my posts and totally ignore yours! FACT! [:P].......apparently.

 

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote]Even if you copy and paste till your keyboard turns to milk, you''re still an untrue fan who doesn''t attend games - and therefore have no place on this message board. So, ''narf orf'' and make extra room for my exceptional gargantuan ego; as I have so much to say, and so little room in cyber-space to say it........and everybody enjoys my posts and totally ignore yours! FACT! .......apparently.[/quote]

It''s a fair cop.

Seeya.

Take care.

Bye !