Martin or Earnshaw - Who would you sell ?

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Let''s assume we get to the end of the season in a mid-table spot.  Chris Martin continues his rich vein of goalscoring form, and gets an average of a goal a game for the rest of the season.  This gives him the kind of record that gets young players noticed by Premiership teams.  Theo Walcott was probably an exception, but a goal every 2 games over a decent period of time in the Championship can translate into a 2 million valuation, in fact David Cotterill was sold to Wigan for over 2 million on the basis of his record at League 1 Bristol City, and that goal he scored that was shown on Sky a lot.Going into next season we know that we''re going to be short of cash, and the decision has to be made to sell one of the more highly valued players.  Do you sell Rob Earnshaw, knowing that a 5 million pound sale would bring money in to rebuild the squad, or Chris Martin for a Coterill-like 2 million plus add-ons, in the hope that holding on to Earnshaw will give us the goals to push for the Premiership next season ?

[london Canary 0]

Well i wouldn''t sell either but to answer your question i definatly wouldn''t sell earnshaw as he has to be here next season if we are to do anything in terms of promotion.

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[quote]and gets an average of a goal a game[/quote]That should read a goal every other game.  Oops.

[Freeza 0]

There''s no way we will get £5million for Earnie this summer due to his injury, if he has the same 1st half of the season that he did this year then we could get good money for him next January and he will have set us on our way nicely.

[barclay4ever 0]

well i suppose youv got to look at whos gonna be here longer and get the goals for us. i wud imagine earnshaw wud be looking at leaving if not in the summer then the next if we dont make any porgress so maybe taking the money for him but it would be a gamble cos martin isnt necessarily going to continue like this. i guess it just depends on the offers which com in but the simpl answer is neither

[Ark 0]

Good question.... Ideally we don''t want to sell either but, on a purely financial level, I''d probably consider letting Earnie go... If we could get 5million, I think that''s the most we''d ever get for him, whereas Martin might well continue to increase in value during next season and beyond. HOWEVER, this all depends on Martin keeping up his scoring form and looking like he can lead the strikeforce in the long term. Equally, Ryan Jarvis returning to the side in scoring form would make the decision to sell Earnie much easier.Another thing to remember about Earnie: He wants to be playing in the Premiership, whether for Norwich or anyone else... He might be willing to wait until the end of next season given his long injury layoff, but certainly not beyond - so the question is, what could we sell him for NEXT summer? (if we don''t get promoted).

[nutty nigel 7,963]

I guess it depends on how we finish this season and how much we fancy a gamble.

I would try and keep both players and go into next season with a strong squad. If we are challenging for auto promotion by Christmas we will have more TV revenue to carry on the gamble until the end of the season. If we are failing again we will need to sell in January.

 

[charlies dad 0]

Neither! The club has sold enough players in the last 3 seasons.  

[ZLF 342]

Its a tough call,  Earnie guarantees goals but seems to come at the expense of negative impact on the team (shape, performance, tactics, fewer goals from the rest of the team), while Martin seems to suit the team better but probably (although not certain) scores less goals personally.

It depends why you are selling - if for cash Earnie will probably get more than Martin and used wisely could change us into championship contenders.

The right answer is sell neither, let them compete for their place in the side and strengthen the squad again during the summer.   Personally I think we look more like a team without Earnie.

Its squads that win promotion, not individual players.

[JC 0]

We will get nowhere near £5 million for Earnshaw, three and a half maybe now he has been out injured for so long.

I would sell earnshaw rather than Martin, for one reason.  If we sold Martin, but then a big club came in for Earnshaw, we would probably lose both of them!  Better to aim to re-coup the money on Earnshaw and hold on to a bright star of the future.

Mind you, if we only bring in a couple of cheapie''s, and with some of the bigger wages gone, I see no reason why we should let either of them go if we are serious about trying to go up next season.

 

[quote user="blahblahblah"]Let''s assume we get to the end of the season in a mid-table spot.  Chris Martin continues his rich vein of goalscoring form, and gets an average of a goal a game for the rest of the season.  This gives him the kind of record that gets young players noticed by Premiership teams.  Theo Walcott was probably an exception, but a goal every 2 games over a decent period of time in the Championship can translate into a 2 million valuation, in fact David Cotterill was sold to Wigan for over 2 million on the basis of his record at League 1 Bristol City, and that goal he scored that was shown on Sky a lot.

Going into next season we know that we''re going to be short of cash, and the decision has to be made to sell one of the more highly valued players.  Do you sell Rob Earnshaw, knowing that a 5 million pound sale would bring money in to rebuild the squad, or Chris Martin for a Coterill-like 2 million plus add-ons, in the hope that holding on to Earnshaw will give us the goals to push for the Premiership next season ?
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[Shack Attack 0]

Interesting question, and if we absolutely had to sell one of them then I think the fact that the extra money that Earnie''s sale would generate has to influence your decision. Although we''re starting to see a few encouraging signs it''s still clear that there is a lot of work to be done in the summer to turn this squad into one that is capable of challenging for promotion. The squad is far too small at present so not only do we need to get rid of the dead wood (McVeigh, Thorne, Henderson & MLJ for starters), we also need to replace them and then add more. That will take money, and assuming that we haven''t got much cash laying around, I think we''d have to take the option to sell Earnie.

I was thinking something similar over the weekend actually, but my question was more ''Who are we more likely to receive a bid for, Earnie or Martin?''.

 

[BBFF 0]

Why would we want to sell either if we are going for promotion next season?  

All depends on the boards priorities in the year to come, will it be on the pitch or off as normal?

[Shack Attack 0]

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All depends on the boards priorities in the year to come, will it be on the pitch or off as normal?

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Are you the new spokesman?

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Why would we want to sell either if we are going for promotion next season?  

All depends on the boards priorities in the year to come, will it be on the pitch or off as normal?[/quote]On the basis that we are without a parachute from next season, can we afford to "go for promotion", if "going for promotion" means spending money (and I don''t believe it does ini this league) ?

[gissing canary 2]

i agree, we can keep both, mlj, mcveigh, thorne, doc, and hendo gone, with only doc needing replacing with 2 players, should take a chunk off the budget, and in my opinion not effect the squad at all.

 

[BBFF 0]

[quote user="Shack Attack"][quote user="BB FOOTBALL FIRST"]

All depends on the boards priorities in the year to come, will it be on the pitch or off as normal?

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Are you the new spokesman?

[/quote]Spokeperson of what Shack? Im just a FOOTBALL fan who has supported NCFC for 50 years. I just say it as I see it.

FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

[Evil Monkey 52]

Good hypothetical question, bbb... ignoring whether or not we will need to sell in the Summer (which I doubt, since I believe our board will budget for Earnie remaining, which is maybe why less money is available for transfers elsewhere), I would personally sell Earnie - £3-5mil should be easy (he''s not been out that long and had scored 17 goals before the injury) so I''d be inclined to take the money and gamble on Martin providing the goods on as regular a basis as he is now.  Maybe that''s a lot of pressure for one so young, but sometimes certain players thrive on pressure and, so far, it looks like this is so with Martin... it would be easy for him, now, to buckle under the pressure of filling Earnie''s boots and leading the line, but it seems to me that he''s filling no one''s boots but his own and that can only be a good thing...

[BBFF 0]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote] Why would we want to sell either if we are going for promotion next season?  

All depends on the boards priorities in the year to come, will it be on the pitch or off as normal?[/quote]

On the basis that we are without a parachute from next season, can we afford to "go for promotion", if "going for promotion" means spending money (and I don''t believe it does ini this league) ?

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blabla we wont have to spend that much to "go for promotion" A new centre back, full time keeper and the belief we can do it with Hucks feeding two free scoring forwards. But all the club has got to want it to happen from the bottom to the top.

 

FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

[blacko 0]

Don''t forget if we sell Martin we would need to spend to replace him, with the added sign on fees agents etc we would not get much of a player so we definately need to keep him. I think, as has been suggested we would have to wait till January to see if Earnie is fit to get a decent fee for him. That could work in our favour because we may be riding high with both scoring and therefore it would be worth the gamble to kepp them both. (s*** I just woke up!)

[ricky knight 0]

No comparison Earnie has done it right up to international Level, Martin is a young kid starting out, albeit very well, to expect him to carry us to a promotion position, over a whole season, would be unwise and unfair. Earnie must stay if we are to have a chance next season imo.

[NottsCanary 0]

In answer to the question I would have to say Earnshaw as the money genererated could be used to buy a replacement.

But they haven''t played together yet have they? With Martin being a team player bringing others in and holding it up, and Earnshaw being more selfish and ruthless, it looks like a good partnership to me. Just lacks a little height but should encourage the team to pass on the floor and get it down the wings, cause if Hucks and Croft play like Barnsley every week we should keep destroying teams...

[Shack Attack 0]

[quote user="BB FOOTBALL FIRST"][quote user="Shack Attack"][quote user="BB FOOTBALL FIRST"]

All depends on the boards priorities in the year to come, will it be on the pitch or off as normal?

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Are you the new spokesman?

[/quote]Spokeperson of what Shack? Im just a FOOTBALL fan who has supported NCFC for 50 years. I just say it as I see it.

FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

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Sorry, I just wondered if you were theolster''s replacement what with your thoughts about ''off pitch priorities''. Easy mistake..

[Huddy 0]

I would sell etuhu for 1.5M if Boro are after him!

Yes, i think he has been over critisized at times, but he''s certainly no world beater aand isnt irreplaceable!!!

[Mello Yello 2,585]

I would sell, whoever wished to leave. I think Mr Martin ''the boy from Beccles'' would prefer to advance his career at the club that he is also a supporter of.

I think Earnie would have gone to pastures new in the transfer period if he wasn''t crocked (and ''maybe'' not through his own choice).

Sell Earnshaw, if push comes to shove - that''s what this club''s been doing since I can remember! Everything has a price..........sadly.

[Alex Harvey-Jones 0]

Neither!!!! Earnie shouldn''t be sold because he''s class and we need his goals. Martin shouldn''t be sold because we wouldn''t get much for him at the moment (if anything) as he''s not on a pro contract. He might be the best home grown player to grace this club for a while and rapidly increase in value so selling him now makes no sense!!

[Foggo_on_the wing 0]

Easy - Assuming Martin can keep up to somewhere near Earnie''s scoring rate, Earnshaw would have to go. We play like a team without him. Martin doesn''t get pushed off the ball, and he can head the ball under pressure. He''s also far better at linking up with other players.

 

[london Canary 0]

[quote user="Evil Monkey"]Good hypothetical question, bbb... ignoring whether or not we will need to sell in the Summer (which I doubt, since I believe our board will budget for Earnie remaining, which is maybe why less money is available for transfers elsewhere), I would personally sell Earnie - £3-5mil should be easy (he''s not been out that long and had scored 17 goals before the injury) so I''d be inclined to take the money and gamble on Martin providing the goods on as regular a basis as he is now.  Maybe that''s a lot of pressure for one so young, but sometimes certain players thrive on pressure and, so far, it looks like this is so with Martin... it would be easy for him, now, to buckle under the pressure of filling Earnie''s boots and leading the line, but it seems to me that he''s filling no one''s boots but his own and that can only be a good thing...
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i don''t see how selling earny can help our team, he is a proven goal scorer. martin isn''t, if we rely on him we''re going nowhere. Im not saying he isn''t good but he is still very young. selling earny would be a sad day. just like when we sold ashton.

[Gingerpele 0]

i would sell nethier