norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted January 23, 2007 Right, correct me here please if I am wrong, but the official site barely covers Norwich during the war years (ww2).I have read through the history on the official site and there is no mention of the 18-0 victory over Brighton on Christmas day 1940. I know this is technically not our biggest victory as games were haphazard, the Brighton side turned up with only 5 players and had to make the rest up with Norwich reserves and soldiers.However, clubs were sanctioned to do this as long as they did not pay a player more than 30 shillings, and there were organised leagues, so perhaps it could be argued it was a sanctioned competitive match, although competitive may be stretching the boundaries a bit.The official site says iirc the 3rd div south was abandoned 3 games in because of the war and that is pretty much it.Surely Norwich''s history during the war years deserves a bit more of a mention, and the 18-0 victory, if only as a querky aside[:)]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted January 23, 2007 I take back my last post, however the official site has it under the wrong section 1941-1958, when the game took place in 1940. However, they barely mention it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gentleman Jim 0 Posted January 24, 2007 In the 1939/1940 season City played ,as you said only three games, against Cardiff (h), Bristol C (a) and Ipswich (a). They then didn''t play official football league matches until 1946/1947 and finished 21st out of 22. I would assume that any match played in those intervening years were an impromptu affair and hardly received any worthwhile notice or recognition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeCanary 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Yes Jim, that''s all very interesting but.... did we beat Ipswich? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted January 25, 2007 War games were not well organised, but there are league tables 1939-42, I''ve only included the division Norwich were in. Someone on here probable knows more about Norwich during world war 2. Apologies in advance for the long post.[:)]England 1939/40South Regional ChampionshipsGroup ''A''1. Arsenal FC 18 13 4 1 62:22 30 2. West Ham United FC 18 12 1 5 57:33 25 3. Millwall FC 18 8 5 5 46:38 21 4. Watford FC 18 9 3 6 44:38 21 5. Norwich City FC 18 7 6 5 41:36 20 6. Charlton Athletic FC 18 8 1 9 61:58 17 7. Crystal Palace FC 18 5 3 10 39:56 13 8. Clapton Orient FC 18 5 3 10 28:60 13 9. Tottenham Hotspur FC 18 5 2 11 37:43 1210. Southend United FC 18 4 0 14 30:61 8Group D1. Crystal Palace FC 18 13 1 4 64:30 27 2. Queen''s Park Rangers FC 18 10 3 5 38:28 23 3. Watford FC 18 7 7 4 41:29 21 4. Southend United FC 18 8 3 7 41:37 19 5. Aldershot FC 18 7 3 8 38:36 17 6. Clapton Orient FC 18 7 3 8 33:45 17 7. Norwich City FC 17 6 4 7 31:31 16 8. Bournemouth&Boscombe Ath.FC 17 7 2 8 38:40 16 9. Reading FC 18 6 2 10 31:42 1410. Brighton & Hove Albion FC 18 2 4 12 30:65 8England 1940/41South Regional ChampionshipNB: ranking according to goal average because of the discrepancy of games played. 1. Crystal Palace FC 27 16 4 7 86-44 1.955 2. West Ham United FC 25 14 6 5 70-39 1.795 3. Coventry City FC 10 5 3 2 28-16 1.750 4. Arsenal FC 19 10 5 4 66-38 1.737 5. Cardiff City AFC 24 12 5 7 75-50 1.500 6. Reading FC 26 14 5 7 73-51 1.431 7. Norwich City FC 19 9 2 8 73-55 1.327 8. Watford FC 35 15 6 14 96-73 1.315 9. Portsmouth FC 31 16 2 13 92-71 1.296 10. Tottenham Hotspur FC 23 9 5 9 53-41 1.293 11. Millwall FC 31 16 5 10 73-57 1.281 12. Walsall FC 32 14 7 11 100-80 1.250 13. West Bromwich Albion FC 28 13 5 10 83-69 1.203 14. Leicester City FC 33 17 5 11 87-73 1.192 15. Northampton Town FC 30 14 3 13 84-71 1.183 16. Bristol City FC 20 10 2 8 55-48 1.146 17. Mansfield Town FC 29 12 6 11 77-68 1.132 18. Charlton Athletic FC 19 7 4 8 37-34 1.088 19. Aldershot FC 24 14 2 8 73-68 1.074 20. Brentford FC 23 9 3 11 51-51 1.000 21. Chelsea FC 23 10 4 9 57-58 0.983 22. Birmingham City FC 16 7 1 8 38-43 0.884 23. Fulham FC 30 10 7 13 62-73 0.849 24. Luton Town FC 35 11 7 17 82-100 0.820 25. Stoke City FC 36 9 9 18 76-96 0.792 26. Queen''s Park Rangers FC 23 8 3 12 47-60 0.783 27. Brighton & Hove Albion FC 25 8 7 10 51-75 0.680 28. Nottingham Forest FC 25 7 3 15 50-77 0.649 29. Bournemouth&Boscombe Ath.FC 27 9 3 15 59-92 0.641 30. Notts County FC 21 8 3 10 42-66 0.636 31. Southend United FC 29 12 4 13 64-101 0.634 32. Southampton FC 31 4 4 23 53-111 0.477 33. Swansea Town FC 10 2 1 7 12-33 0.364 34. Clapton Orient FC 15 1 3 11 19-66 0.288England 1941/42 South Regional ChampionshipNB: ranking according to points per 18 matches 1. Leicester City FC 17 11 3 3 40-17 25 26.471 2. West Bromwich Albion FC 13 9 1 3 62-26 19 26.308 3. Cardiff City AFC 15 9 1 5 43-28 19 22.800 4. Norwich City FC 8 4 2 2 20-13 10 22.500 5. Bournemouth&Boscombe Ath.FC 10 6 0 4 26-18 12 21.600 6. Bristol City FC 15 9 0 6 46-45 18 21.600 7. Walsall FC 18 9 1 8 49-45 19 19.000 8. Northampton Town FC 16 7 2 7 39-38 16 18.000 9. Wolverhampton Wanderers FC 16 6 2 8 27-36 14 15.75010. Southampton FC 10 4 0 6 27-32 8 14.40011. Luton Town FC 18 5 1 12 34-73 11 11.00012. Nottingham Forest FC 13 2 1 10 18-39 5 6.92313. Swansea Town FC 9 1 0 8 18-39 2 4.000League Championship (December 27, 1941 to May 30, 1942)NB: ranking according to points per 23 matches 1. Manchester United FC 19 12 4 3 44-25 28 33.895 2. Blackpool FC 22 14 4 4 108-34 32 33.455 3. Northampton Town FC 21 14 2 5 70-31 30 32.857 4. Liverpool FC 21 14 2 5 57-39 30 32.857 5. Wolverhampton Wanderers FC 20 13 1 6 52-29 27 31.050 6. Huddersfield Town AFC 20 9 6 5 42-33 24 27.600 7. Blackburn Rovers FC 22 10 6 6 40-31 26 27.182 8. West Bromwich Albion FC 18 9 3 6 53-43 21 26.833 9. Grimsby Town FC 18 8 5 5 31-22 21 26.83310. Sunderland AFC 22 9 7 6 53-42 25 26.13611. Cardiff City AFC 20 9 4 7 59-38 22 25.30012. Preston North End FC 19 6 7 6 41-30 19 23.00013. Chesterfield Town FC 18 8 2 8 32-31 18 23.00014. Middlesbrough FC 18 7 4 7 37-36 18 23.00015. Everton FC 23 9 5 9 37-41 23 23.00016. Stoke City 20 9 2 9 41-49 20 23.00017. Leicester City FC 18 6 4 8 39-38 16 20.44418. Bradford Park Avenue AFC 19 5 6 8 35-40 16 19.36819. Halifax Town AFC 19 4 7 8 30-40 15 18.15820. Burnley FC 19 7 1 11 29-53 15 18.15821. Chester FC 20 6 3 11 34-41 15 17.25022. Oldham Athletic AFC 18 4 3 11 30-43 11 14.05623. Barnsley FC 15 9 3 3 48-23 21 32.20024. Norwich City FC 12 7 1 4 27-19 15 28.75025. Bristol City FC 17 9 3 5 55-29 21 28.41226. Sheffield United FC 17 8 4 5 39-33 20 27.05927. Lincoln City FC 13 7 1 5 45-33 15 26.53828. Manchester City FC 17 9 1 7 33-26 19 25.70629. York City FC 17 6 7 4 39-37 19 25.70630. Nottingham Forest FC 16 8 1 7 32-30 17 24.43831. Southampton FC 12 5 2 5 27-32 12 23.00032. Newcastle United FC 17 5 6 6 33-40 16 21.64733. Bury FC 15 6 2 7 46-39 14 21.46734. Rotherham United FC 15 6 2 7 32-34 14 21.46735. Bolton Wanderers FC 15 5 4 6 26-33 14 21.46736. Bradford City AFC 14 6 1 7 28-25 13 21.35737. New Brighton FC 11 5 0 6 23-38 10 20.90938. Southport FC 16 6 2 8 30-38 14 20.12539. Wrexham AFC 12 4 2 6 26-32 10 19.16740. Leeds United AFC 17 7 0 10 33-33 14 18.94141. Sheffield Wednesday FC 15 5 2 8 22-36 12 18.40042. Gateshead AFC 13 4 2 7 23-36 10 17.69243. Rochdale FC 13 5 0 8 23-39 10 17.69244. Bournemouth&Boscombe Ath.FC 8 2 2 4 11-21 6 17.25045. Tranmere Rovers AFC 15 4 3 8 24-55 11 16.86746. Luton Town FC 16 4 2 10 20-54 10 14.37547. Walsall FC 13 4 0 9 14-34 8 14.15448. Swansea Town FC 11 1 4 6 11-39 6 12.54549. Stockport County FC 10 1 3 6 12-38 5 11.50050. Doncaster Rovers FC 9 2 0 7 10-30 4 10.22251. Mansfield Town FC 11 1 2 8 15-36 4 8.364League Cup Qualifying Competition (December 27, 1941 to March 28, 1942) NB: ranking according to points per 10 matches 1. Northampton Town FC 9 7 1 1 27-14 15 16.667 2. Blackburn Rovers FC 10 7 2 1 19- 7 16 16.000 3. Manchester United FC 10 6 3 1 23-13 15 15.000 4. Blackpool FC 10 6 2 2 45-19 14 14.000 5. Barnsley FC 10 6 2 2 33-16 14 14.000 6. Liverpool FC 10 7 0 3 33-24 14 14.000 7. Bristol City FC 10 5 3 2 29-16 13 13.000 8. Nottingham Forest FC 9 5 1 3 15- 9 11 12.222 9. Leicester City FC 9 4 3 2 27-19 11 12.22210. Rotherham United FC 9 5 1 3 20-15 11 12.22211. Grimsby Town FC 9 4 3 2 15-12 11 12.22212. Cardiff City AFC 10 5 2 3 39-19 12 12.00013. Sunderland AFC 10 5 2 3 30-19 12 12.00014. Wolverhampton Wanderers FC 10 6 0 4 28-19 12 12.00015. Huddersfield Town AFC 10 5 2 3 23-16 12 12.00016. Middlesbrough FC 10 4 4 2 24-17 12 12.00017. Everton FC 10 5 2 3 15-16 12 12.00018. Norwich City FC 6 3 1 2 17-11 7 11.66719. Lincoln City FC 9 5 0 4 27-21 10 11.11120. West Bromwich Albion FC 9 4 2 3 29-24 10 11.11121. Preston North End FC 10 4 3 3 26-13 11 11.00022. Manchester City FC 10 5 1 4 21-14 11 11.00023. Stoke City 10 5 1 4 22-15 11 11.00024. Sheffield United FC 10 4 3 3 23-19 11 11.00025. Southampton FC 10 5 1 4 25-28 11 11.00026. Bury FC 9 4 1 4 33-24 9 10.00027. Bradford City AFC 8 4 0 4 14-11 8 10.00028. Southport FC 9 4 1 4 20-19 9 10.00029. Oldham Athletic AFC 10 4 1 5 18-17 9 9.00030. Chester FC 10 4 1 5 19-20 9 9.00031. Burnley FC 10 4 1 5 18-19 9 9.00032. Bradford Park Avenue AFC 10 3 3 4 22-26 9 9.00033. York City FC 10 2 5 3 22-27 9 9.00034. Chesterfield Town FC 10 4 1 5 15-20 9 9.00035. Wrexham AFC 9 3 2 4 22-23 8 8.88936. Bolton Wanderers FC 9 3 2 4 16-17 8 8.88937. Leeds United AFC 10 4 0 6 22-15 8 8.00038. Newcastle United FC 10 2 4 4 15-23 8 8.00039. New Brighton FC 10 4 0 6 18-38 8 8.00040. Bournemouth&Boscombe Ath.FC 8 2 2 4 11-21 6 7.50041. Swansea Town FC 8 1 4 3 9-21 6 7.50042. Halifax Town AFC 9 2 2 5 11-20 6 6.66743. Rochdale FC 9 3 0 6 13-29 6 6.66744. Gateshead AFC 10 2 2 6 15-30 6 6.00045. Luton Town FC 10 2 2 6 12-30 6 6.00046. Tranmere Rovers AFC 10 2 2 6 16-42 6 6.00047. Doncaster Rovers FC 8 2 0 6 10-27 4 5.00048. Stockport County FC 10 1 3 6 12-38 5 5.00049. Mansfield Town FC 7 1 1 5 10-19 3 4.28650. Walsall FC 10 2 0 8 9-29 4 4.00051. Sheffield Wednesday FC 8 1 1 6 8-25 3 3.750 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gentleman Jim 0 Posted January 25, 2007 I hope I haven''t given you the impression that I was there YC, even I am not that old (yet)!Anyway the score was 1-1, but I''m pretty sure we were the better team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gary 0 Posted January 25, 2007 I know they are always a battle , but to start a war on the next day sounds a bit extreme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
