JonnyJonnyRowe 1,056 Posted January 10 Rob Edwards being sacked and Luton being in a relegation scrap. I guess they'd be really reluctant to sell in this window as it would mean almost certain relegation as he's their top scorer? But he's the type of striker and leader that I think Webber was hoping Ashley Barnes would be, which is a bit ironic really isn't it. And we need to sign homegrown players in the summer, this one is homegrown at club (apparently have to have 1 of those in the squad). In the summer he enters the final year of his Luton deal, so you'd expect them to want to convert into cash at that point. Might be a shrewd signing at the right price? Need the odd experienced head and some players with top level experience, and he ticks both of those boxes without being absolutely ancient like Forshaw, Barnes & Duffy (he has just turned 29) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewis DW 35 Posted January 10 I appreciate the homegrown discussion, but I do wonder if this is a player people would genuinely want to sign if he didn't have a NCFC connection/past... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 948 Posted January 10 He's never coming here to play second fiddle to Sargeant. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,205 Posted January 10 Not quick or versatile enough for what we are building 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRB2 104 Posted January 10 I'd take Jacob Brown over Carlton Morris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 1,056 Posted January 10 28 minutes ago, Lewis DW said: I appreciate the homegrown discussion, but I do wonder if this is a player people would genuinely want to sign if he didn't have a NCFC connection/past... Not sure we're in the financial position to grumble about signing any player he achieved double figures in the Premier League last season and 20 goals in the Championship the season before. But would depend on price really, for a few million the yeah I think he'd be a snip at that. Problem is a relegated team will probably fancy him, he'll end up being signed by Ipswich when they get relegated and lose Delap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 1,056 Posted January 10 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said: He's never coming here to play second fiddle to Sargeant. Sargeant is basically a 25 game a season player though isn't he. 26 games last season. 12 games so far this season. 40 the year before that, but the year before that it was 26 as well. Had one full season out of him in 4 years, that's why I don't think we'll ever get a big fee for him, injury prone. Without a decent Sargeant alternative we won't get out of this league. A 'second fiddle' to Sargeant probably end up getting more minutes over the course of the season than Sargeant. Edited January 10 by JonnyJonnyRowe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,966 Posted January 10 I don't see us making any big moves for a striker- it seems clear the club views Crnac as a forward so unless Sargent leaves we'd be buying someone to be third choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,939 Posted January 10 Left us for more game time. Doesn't want to he sat on a bench. Besides what's the obsession some of us seem to have with the idea of signing former players? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,665 Posted January 10 Duffy had him in his pocket for 2 games, says all you need to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,593 Posted January 10 Well personally, I think Carlton would do a good job for us.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 502 Posted January 10 Too much money for us to consider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,265 Posted January 10 (edited) Believe it or not his u21 strike partner was a much better player but Norwich cut him the night before that youth cup victory. Quiet lad lacked confidence but technically insane. Genuinely one of the best kids I've coached and he ended up in Tesco's 😞😞 Edited January 10 by Nexus_Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,742 Posted January 10 Useful Championship player who should have a few years left in him given his playing style, despite being 29 (where does the time go!!?) Probably around the £2-3m mark nowadays. However, he's not a player for our system or business model, so it's a non-starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 948 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: Sargeant is basically a 25 game a season player though isn't he. 26 games last season. 12 games so far this season. 40 the year before that, but the year before that it was 26 as well. Had one full season out of him in 4 years, that's why I don't think we'll ever get a big fee for him, injury prone. Without a decent Sargeant alternative we won't get out of this league. A 'second fiddle' to Sargeant probably end up getting more minutes over the course of the season than Sargeant. Ok, he's never coming here to just play when Sargeant is injured / needs resting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 836 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Gordon Bennett said: He's never coming here to play second fiddle to Sargeant. Might not be an issue come the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,160 Posted January 10 We need competition for Sargent. Big 2nd half of the season coming up for Josh. He needs to get fit and stay fit and score some goals. World Cup next year and he needs to get back in that US squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 2,333 Posted January 10 2 hours ago, GRB2 said: I'd take Jacob Brown over Carlton Morris I'd take Mrs Brown over Carlton Morris 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 1,056 Posted January 10 18 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said: Ok, he's never coming here to just play when Sargeant is injured / needs resting. If we're relying on Sargeant as our only good striker with no competition then we're not getting out of this league. That's not a healthy situation. Leeds have got Bamford, Piroe, and Gelhardt who are all number 9's and Gnonto who can play there. Was it the 2014/15 season when we had Grabban, Hooper and Jerome all competing for the number 9 shirt? Becchio couldn't get a sniff, Carlton Morris couldn't get any minutes, and Van Wolfswinkel was farmed out on loan. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 802 Posted January 10 Bit of a non starter seeing as we have said we wont be buying another striker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 1,056 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Left us for more game time. Doesn't want to he sat on a bench. Besides what's the obsession some of us seem to have with the idea of signing former players? The fact that we're going to need to sign homegrown players in the summer, and in every matchday squad have one player who came through our own academy (like Morris) is a big factor in my post. If not Morris then it has to be somebody else English, and that limits options massively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 1,056 Posted January 10 Just now, jaberry2 said: Bit of a non starter seeing as we have said we wont be buying another striker. I took that to mean not signing one in this window. Summer might be a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Pete 2,395 Posted January 10 Well done on your choice of username. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 948 Posted January 10 41 minutes ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: If we're relying on Sargeant as our only good striker with no competition then we're not getting out of this league. That's not a healthy situation. Leeds have got Bamford, Piroe, and Gelhardt who are all number 9's and Gnonto who can play there. Was it the 2014/15 season when we had Grabban, Hooper and Jerome all competing for the number 9 shirt? Becchio couldn't get a sniff, Carlton Morris couldn't get any minutes, and Van Wolfswinkel was farmed out on loan. Somebody will be signed I'm sure but it won't be Morris. Just as in the case of replacing Gunn there are many, many players out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 802 Posted January 10 42 minutes ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: I took that to mean not signing one in this window. Summer might be a different story. Correct, but with respect we are not at the summer window yet and are probably more working towards short term options rather than longer term of summer acquistions. Much will depend and vary between now and the end of the season. But I hear what you're saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,964 Posted January 10 I wouldn't mind signing someone with that sort of profile, even if not Morris himself. It would give us the option of going more direct and of course resting Sargent. However, I'm not sure that's what the club wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Europe_93 51 Posted January 10 I think he is a decent player and he does suit our style. There is a good chance Sargent will leave in the summer, and Crnac has some ground to make up to fill his boots immediately. Thorrup has also stated we can't just sign young players, and if we let Barnes & one would assume Hanley go in this window, that call for experience would become even louder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,498 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Useful Championship player who should have a few years left in him given his playing style, despite being 29 (where does the time go!!?) Probably around the £2-3m mark nowadays. However, he's not a player for our system or business model, so it's a non-starter. Can't see a Championship club that is getting parachute payments selling their main striker to another team in the league for as little as £3m. Think you'd have to go to around £6/£7m to tempt them to sell, even with 12 months left on his deal and he definitely isn't worth that to Norwich. 53 minutes ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: The fact that we're going to need to sign homegrown players in the summer, and in every matchday squad have one player who came through our own academy (like Morris) is a big factor in my post. If not Morris then it has to be somebody else English, and that limits options massively. Given the premier cost of strikers and homegrown players, having a 2nd choice striker as a homegrown player isn't the most efficient use of resources. I can see why the club want a homegrown keeper or two, as they tend to be cheaper players. As for club grown, this has to be a player who has been at the club for 12 months up-to the end of their U19 season. So Schwartau will qualify as club grown by the end of the summer (although not 'home grown'), as will Fisher, Forsyth, Hills and Gibbs. I don't think it is too much of a concern. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaUnionCanary 150 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, BigFish said: I'd take Mrs Brown over Carlton Morris Or even Charlie Brown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,480 Posted January 11 Not for me, the premier league stint has gone to his head a bit. bullied a team mate off the pitch the other week and thinks he’s bigger than the club. id actually take a punt on adebayo if we were looking at any Luton striker, similar to the Oli Johnson signing when we were in league one, won’t be the main guy but will come on and cause havoc in the last 15-20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
