match thread *Official lappinitup match thread; Canaries V Hatters*

[canarydan23 4,831]

Just now, baldy09 said:

Our defense is really sloppy-its all attack and no defense  the hoff needs to get a grip on  our defense ad sign some decent  defenders

It's not been the defence today, two howlers from midfielders caused both Luton goals today.

[The Great Mass Debater 1,275]

All the goals we concede seem so soft

[Gordon Bennett 948]

JHT needs to get that all-important balance between attack and defence right, we are scoring plenty but need to be far tighter at the back.

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,712]

Just now, baldy09 said:

Our defense is really sloppy-its all attack and no defense  the hoff needs to get a grip on  our defense ad sign some decent  defenders

It’s not so much the defence, but the style of play and tactic. We play too much in dangerous areas.. to draw the press and counter at speed. It requires super technical players to carry it out, and we don’t have enough of them.

[The Great Mass Debater 1,275]

5 minutes ago, canarydan23 said:

If we stop setting up Luton goals we would be quite comfortable here. Slimane with the assist in the first half and was it Kenny putting it on a plate by passing it neatly across his own goal face? Ridiculous. 

We create opportunities at both ends... 

[All the Germans 1,246]

1 minute ago, Gordon Bennett said:

JHT needs to get that all-important balance between attack and defence right, we are scoring plenty but need to be far tighter at the back.

Whilst I agree. I will take this all day, every day over the Hughton style. Even if we lose, it feels like we've "had a go".

[S_81 1,139]

1 minute ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

It’s not so much the defence, but the style of play and tactic. We play too much in dangerous areas.. to draw the press and counter at speed. It requires super technical players to carry it out, and we don’t have enough of them.

Totally this. Our defenders just aren’t up to silky play with the ball at the back. We end up giving the ball away on the edge of our box far too much just by the opposition applying even a medium bit of pressure 

[Helsinki canary 312]

4 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

Defensively this is just not good enough. 
 

Stacey has been great going forward but twice now Moses has had acres down that wing and Stacey has been 40 yards away up the pitch just jogging back. 
 

nobody scores “good” goals against us. Just gifts or scrappy efforts where the ball should have been cleared. 

Maybe we should play Stacey as right winger and put fisher as RB again

[Gordon Bennett 948]

1 minute ago, All the Germans said:

Whilst I agree. I will take this all day, every day over the Hughton style. Even if we lose, it feels like we've "had a go".

Absolutely, great VFM

[NWC 335]

I know he's a great defender and tackler, but I would change Fisher for Crissenne now as we lack attacking creativity down the left hand side, especially when Borja goes wandering. 

[Robert N. LiM 6,449]

3 minutes ago, All the Germans said:

Whilst I agree. I will take this all day, every day over the Hughton style. Even if we lose, it feels like we've "had a go".

JHT said a while ago that his favourite result was 1-0. Not much sign of that at the moment.

[Jim Smith 2,673]

5 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said:

JHT needs to get that all-important balance between attack and defence right, we are scoring plenty but need to be far tighter at the back.

I don’t think it’s a balance thing. It’s not like we are being sliced open as we are all charging forward (apart from Stacey at times). It’s suicidal sloppy passes in our own half and players not clearing the ball when they should do. 

[S_81 1,139]

Got an assist but that was a waste of an hour having Forson in that position, largely 

[The Great Mass Debater 1,275]

5 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

Defensively this is just not good enough. 
 

Stacey has been great going forward but twice now Moses has had acres down that wing and Stacey has been 40 yards away up the pitch just jogging back. 
 

nobody scores “good” goals against us. Just gifts or scrappy efforts where the ball should have been cleared. 

This was always the problem in the Farke era. 'We' ll score one more than you'. 

You can't expect success from achieving attacking prowess by sacrificing solidity. It's a cheap gain. 

[TheGunnShow 7,471]

1 minute ago, NWC said:

I know he's a great defender and tackler, but I would change Fisher for Crissenne now as we lack attacking creativity down the left hand side, especially when Borja goes wandering. 

Would argue "take Stacey off, move Fisher right, put Chrisene left", personally.

[S_81 1,139]

Great stuff from Onel there 

[canarydan23 4,831]

We're not winning this today, not with a David Coote apostle with the whistle.

[The Great Mass Debater 1,275]

Call me crazy but for this game where Sainz has not had much joy I'd consider moving Sainz to the right and playing Onel on the left

[S_81 1,139]

1 minute ago, canarydan23 said:

We're not winning this today, not with a David Coote apostle with the whistle.

Our defending has cost us far more than the ref 

[The Great Mass Debater 1,275]

Nunez for Slimane and Chrisene for Fisher anyone? 

[All the Germans 1,246]

Let's get Nunez on. If he's fit enough for the bench, he should be capable of 30 minutes.

[Jim Smith 2,673]

We have to stop letting them make us static with the ball at the back. Every time leads to us giving it away. Move it bl**dy quicker. 

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,712]

Just now, The Great Mass Debater said:

Nunez for Slimane and Chrisene for Fisher anyone? 

Definitely bring Nunez on. 

3pts massive, come on Norwich!

[S_81 1,139]

Duffy’s passing has been awful at times today. Needs to just do the most basic thing, gets way ahead of himself 

[All the Germans 1,246]

I've been impressed by Marcondes generally. I had no opinion of him before he joined, he took a few games to get up to speed - to be expected - but he's been good since.

[Helsinki canary 312]

So careless at the back, this has to be dealt with by Thorup and Ridderholm 

[S_81 1,139]

No team that’s all about playing out from the back, with Duffy in defence, is getting promoted. It’s that simple. 

[canarydan23 4,831]

Might see a few yellow cards now he's fulfilled his no Luton bookings before 70 minutes order from his Chinese betting ring.

[The Great Mass Debater 1,275]

13 minutes ago, All the Germans said:

Whilst I agree. I will take this all day, every day over the Hughton style. Even if we lose, it feels like we've "had a go".

Hughton was an inverted Farke/Thorup. All the focus on defence and expecting the forwards to sort goals out for themselves. 

Snodgrass and Gutierrez and a slow meandering counter was completely the wrong supply line for RvW/Hooper. 

We need tactics which represent a set of balanced scales, not an anvil on one side and a feather on the other

[Gordon Bennett 948]

13 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

I don’t think it’s a balance thing. It’s not like we are being sliced open as we are all charging forward (apart from Stacey at times). It’s suicidal sloppy passes in our own half and players not clearing the ball when they should do. 

 

4 minutes ago, Helsinki canary said:

So careless at the back, this has to be dealt with by Thorup and Ridderholm 

I'm confident they'll get it right. Their tenure is still in its infancy.