Crnac; Your thoughts so far

[cambridgeshire canary 7,940]

Worth almost the ten million we paid or should we wait a year or two for him to develop?

[S_81 1,139]

We never had the time to wait for him to develop. Not at that cost. He’s a waste of money right now in positions where we need instant results. Can only be judged as a waste of money so far on that basis 

[Samwam27 612]

Sarg didnt play well 1st season, nor did Sainz, nor did Sara (nor did Tzolis lol)

And to be fair nor did Iwan Roberts when we bought him.

He'll take this seasin to adjust, but just wish we could buy players who immediately improve our team

[Yellow and Green 355]

Yep we need to give them time. Important to remember how young these guys are, moving abroad and settling in. It takes time. You can see he's got something about him.

The transfer strategy was always to reduce the age profile of the squad and sign younger players. No one was complaining before the international break... better to bemoan the injuries rather than blame the players struggling for form.

[S_81 1,139]

10 minutes ago, Yellow and Green said:

Yep we need to give them time. Important to remember how young these guys are, moving abroad and settling in. It takes time. You can see he's got something about him.

The transfer strategy was always to reduce the age profile of the squad and sign younger players. No one was complaining before the international break... better to bemoan the injuries rather than blame the players struggling for form.

I don’t think he has anything about him at no9. 

[Capt. Pants 5,160]

For me it was more why did we waste time on Marcondes up front?

 

[Virtual reality 885]

He has potential but that money needed to have been spent on competition for Sargent 

[Worthy Nigelton 1,335]

24 minutes ago, Samwam27 said:

Sarg didnt play well 1st season, nor did Sainz, nor did Sara (nor did Tzolis lol)

And to be fair nor did Iwan Roberts when we bought him.

He'll take this seasin to adjust, but just wish we could buy players who immediately improve our team

Sarg was in the PL and we finished bottom, Sara scored 7 from midfield, Sainz scored 6 and clearly looked a player. None of them cost that much relatively to where the club is either. He looks a proper dud to me, but I hope I'm wrong.

[Robornio 131]

22 minutes ago, Samwam27 said:

Sarg didnt play well 1st season, nor did Sainz, nor did Sara (nor did Tzolis lol)

And to be fair nor did Iwan Roberts when we bought him.

He'll take this seasin to adjust, but just wish we could buy players who immediately improve our team

That’s not actually true. Sainz shone out in places last year – he scored on his debut against Fulham – and Sara had clear glimpses of brilliance too. And Iwan had games where he looked good in the first season – then lost a lot of weight which helped him with mobility in the second season. So far I’ve seen nothing where Crnac has shone out as anything other than below average, which is a huge disappointment. 

[hogesar 10,965]

8.5m when the squad clearly lacks any element of depth in multiple positions is absurd to me.

[Cowboy 262]

In all honesty, a massive waste of money which as others have said would have been MUCH better spread out elsewhere.

[overthebordercanary 167]

The Croatian lurch, has as much pace as a oil tanker.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,076]

No better than Sydney van hooijdonk...only we've spent £8m on him.

The good business of getting a decent fee for Idah nulified here

[Ulfotto 836]

He has a fantastic technique l’ll give him that but looks lost in English football at the moment. The further we get away from it but Abou Kamara could we have handled that better. I mean it seems he throw his toys out of the pram due to not starting the Oxford game when Fassnacht was preferred despite not featuring in pre season. 

[AJ 1,377]

Struggling to see what and him is worth £8m at the moment. Idah would certainly have done a better job today. 

[daly 556]

34 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

No better than Sydney van hooijdonk...only we've spent £8m on him.

The good business of getting a decent fee for Idah nulified here

Goodness I’ m better than Sydney

[The Dog 52]

Worrying thing for me is his complete lack of anticipation and reading of the game. Not sure you can really coach those either. 

[Conrad 279]

1 hour ago, Yellow and Green said:

Yep we need to give them time. Important to remember how young these guys are, moving abroad and settling in. It takes time. You can see he's got something about him.

The transfer strategy was always to reduce the age profile of the squad and sign younger players. No one was complaining before the international break... better to bemoan the injuries rather than blame the players struggling for form.

Why bemoan the injuries when Bristol had as many missing as we did?

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,712]

1 hour ago, hogesar said:

8.5m when the squad clearly lacks any element of depth in multiple positions is absurd to me.

Yep, pretty much this. I’d like to have been a fly on the wall during the ‘governance’ process.. it seems a difficult one to sign off for me.

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,234]

Lets turn this question on its head.

We have £8.5M to spend on a striker who will be back up for Sarge, basically sitting on the bench waiting for him to be injured  or getting maybe one or two cup games and the occasional 5/10 minutes at the end of the game.

Assuming Sarge is the only one injured who would you have bought and why, for a max of £8.5M up front who would be guaranteed to score goals from the get go?........ 

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,712]

7 minutes ago, Conrad said:

Why bemoan the injuries when Bristol had as many missing as we did?

I’d argue we have more key players injured. But what can’t be argued, is Bristol City have a better squad.

Bar Boro, we’d have comfortably beat the other 5 in the winless run with our first 11 playing. That’s the most frustrating thing… but injuries are part and parcel of the game, the injuries are bad luck, but not a surprise. Therefore having no squad resilience shows a degree of incompetence from Knapper and the management team and so blame should be attributed.

Edited November 9, 2024 by Creedence Clearwater Couto

[Capt. Pants 5,160]

I mean Crnac was in his preferred position today and did nothing. Marcondes an imposter centre forward and did nothing other than moan at Crnac. Fcuking shambles really.

[Burton Canary 2]

2 hours ago, S_81 said:

We never had the time to wait for him to develop. Not at that cost. He’s a waste of money right now in positions where we need instant results. Can only be judged as a waste of money so far on that basis 

Totally Agree

[Burton Canary 2]

1 minute ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

I’d argue we have more key players injured. But what can’t be argued, is Bristol City have a better squad.

Bar Boro, we’d have comfortably beat the other 5 in the winless run with our first 11 playing. That’s the most frustrating thing… but injuries are part and parcel of the game, the injuries are bad luck, but not a surprise. Therefore having no squad resilience shows a degree of incompetence from Knapper and the management team. 

Snapper should resign having sold our two best forwards and not signing a quality replacement, giving way to our free fall

[Conrad 279]

10 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

I’d argue we have more key players injured. But what can’t be argued, is Bristol City have a better squad.

Bar Boro, we’d have comfortably beat the other 5 in the winless run with our first 11 playing. That’s the most frustrating thing… but injuries are part and parcel of the game, the injuries are bad luck, but not a surprise. Therefore having no squad resilience shows a degree of incompetence from Knapper and the management team and so blame should be attributed.

I agree, bar the expected starting 11 we look very poor.

[ricardo 8,125]

He will be ok given time.

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,838]

Needs time, very Tzolis-like in that respect. Not necessarily signed for the here and now, but for the next season or two, unfortunately we NEED performances for the here and now also. 

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,076]

1 minute ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

Needs time, very Tzolis-like in that respect. Not necessarily signed for the here and now, but for the next season or two, unfortunately we NEED performances for the here and now also. 

Was he not signed as a replacement for the position on the field Rowe was occupying?.....thats very much here and now

Championship clubs shouldbt be spending £8m on anyone whos not ready to play

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,742]

It's easy to forget how young he is. He's only 20.

Him and Schwartau aren't ready to be regular first team players but Crnac kinda has to play given the outlay, and Schwartau has been given more minutes than he is ready for because of injuries. 

They're both still learning and adapting to the Championship and given that we knew in the summer this was a long-term project, we can't expect instant results. 

However, £8.5m for Crnac was much too high in our situation, I feel. I understand that we were building a a squad for the long term, but that's too much for a player who is at the moment just potential.

[Capt. Pants 5,160]

If he needs time why did Thorup swap him back to the wing? It's almost as though he has given up with him as a CF already. Bit of a shambles from Thorup today as neither Crnac or Marcondes were in a position that could influence the game.