Elephants in the Room

[Lazza 69]

29 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

Personally, I would cash in on Josh because...

I wouldn't as I don't think we will get a lot for him given his injury record, and he is very good when fit. Sign another striker to come in as 1st choice and have Josh as a 2nd striker for games where we can play 2 or as an impact sub. Of course, that takes money we probably don't have.

[CUSDP 62]

Re Forson & Crnac, they are 2 young lads in a new league in a country they are settling in.

Buendia, Sarge, Sainz, and Tzolis all took time to settle, im not saying they will be as good but we have to give them time. Whilst we now have all these injuries,they are probably benefitting.

[Conrad 267]

15 hours ago, Ulfotto said:

Doyle has 5 assists this season already which is why it makes sense he plays left back. Sure there are downsides but I think there are obvious upsides. Although I do think the whole pattern of play is around the triangle between McLean, Doyle and Sainz. With Sargent creating space. It’s pretty one dimensional the ball rarely if ever goes down the right side of the pitch.

I would prefer Doyle to play as part of a back 3, with wing backs. Particularly with the stretched resources that we currently have. Wing backs would allow Doyle to do what he is good at without exposing him to the deficicies that he shows when playing at full back.

Wing backs would help strengthen our currently weak midfield and then I would suggest going with a front two of Crnac and Sainz. A change of system would be required but our current one is clearly not working due to injuries and suspension.

[rock bus 1,098]

16 minutes ago, Conrad said:

I would prefer Doyle to play as part of a back 3, with wing backs. Particularly with the stretched resources that we currently have. Wing backs would allow Doyle to do what he is good at without exposing him to the deficicies that he shows when playing at full back.

Wing backs would help strengthen our currently weak midfield and then I would suggest going with a front two of Crnac and Sainz. A change of system would be required but our current one is clearly not working due to injuries and suspension.

Think I put on another thread that I hope the reason, JHT didnt bring on Stacey and Chrisene last night was because he was saving them for Saturday. It feels like a bit of a negative step but we need a bit of a reset at the moment at least until we get Nunez and McLean back .

[Mason 47 1,994]

15 minutes ago, rock bus said:

We need a bit of a reset at the moment

I think this is a big, big part of what is going on. Teams have found a way to stop our positives and exploit our negatives and the currently available players don't appear to have the answer to that.

For a case in point, the first goal yesterday. Teams have been targeting Cordoba's blind side for a while now, forwards exploiting the space between him and Duffy/ Doyle for a run in behind- and it keeps working. Time for a switch up IMO to ask different questions of the opposition.

[Capt. Pants 5,144]

Our current form is worse than 2 of the bottom 3. Sure injuries are partly to blame but you can't turn a blind eye to the fact we concede a lot of goals. 

I don't think it's a bad thing that Thorup has something to think about and work on. With the exception of Watford the top 6's GA is measly. We have to get better.

[andyc24_uk 79]

We're hamstrung by the lack of options right now due to injury, much too early to be making judgments about elephants and rooms. I think there's a lot of good things to come from most, if not all, of those we've signed over the summer... In the immediate future, surely the first thing we need to do is play Mair in goal because the defence have understandably absolutely zero confidence in Calamity George behind them and that added pressure is not helping them to concentrate on their own jobs. I definitely agree with the idea of wingbacks and a back 3 for the next game, particularly when we have limited options further forward in any case.

[Channon’s Windmill 428]

Could we play an elephant in goal?

[hogesar 10,933]

3 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

Our current form is worse than 2 of the bottom 3. Sure injuries are partly to blame but you can't turn a blind eye to the fact we concede a lot of goals. 

I don't think it's a bad thing that Thorup has something to think about and work on. With the exception of Watford the top 6's GA is measly. We have to get better.

At least this division is a lot tighter. There aren't 5 or 6 clearly good teams with good consistency 

[king canary 8,912]

3 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

Our current form is worse than 2 of the bottom 3. Sure injuries are partly to blame but you can't turn a blind eye to the fact we concede a lot of goals. 

I don't think it's a bad thing that Thorup has something to think about and work on. With the exception of Watford the top 6's GA is measly. We have to get better.

This is just a bizarre stat. Our current form is also better than two of the top 9. 

[Capt. Pants 5,144]

52 minutes ago, king canary said:

This is just a bizarre stat. Our current form is also better than two of the top 9. 

Bonkers league. Only 7 pts between 6th and 22nd!

[All the Germans 1,244]

12 hours ago, Lazza said:

I wouldn't as I don't think we will get a lot for him given his injury record, and he is very good when fit. Sign another striker to come in as 1st choice and have Josh as a 2nd striker for games where we can play 2 or as an impact sub. Of course, that takes money we probably don't have.

I'd suggest we definitely don't have sufficient money to buy a striker of required quality to make Sargent 2nd choice, not without enormous luck by stumbling across a hidden gem who would never be signed on the premise that he would make Sargent 2nd choice. I don't find it a sensible option to consider. Having a suitable understudy is a different matter.

[dylanisabaddog 6,187]

On 28/10/2024 at 13:45, jaberry2 said:

 

Im sure Gunn wont leave the club high and dry on his contract. Knapper seems pretty on the ball.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Gunn is currently paid less than John Ruddy at Newcastle.

I wouldn't say he'll be leaving us "high and dry" but I'm sure he'll go elsewhere if the money is significantly better. I wouldn't blame him, so would I. 

I've seen many great goalkeepers at Carrow Road over the last 55 years. Angus Gunn is adequate but I certainly wouldn't put him on that list. It shouldn't be difficult to replace him with someone of a similar standard. 

As for Crnac, the Polish club we signed him from have gone on record as saying that we overpaid for him. Having said that, let's take the pressure off him and give him a season to get up to speed. I think most of us have seen glimpses of potential. 

[Lazza 69]

3 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said:

As for Crnac, the Polish club we signed him from have gone on record as saying that we overpaid for him. Having said that, let's take the pressure off him and give him a season to get up to speed. I think most of us have seen glimpses of potential. 

Haven't we pretty much said the same thing with our sales of Rowe, Idah & Kamara

[dylanisabaddog 6,187]

4 minutes ago, Lazza said:

Haven't we pretty much said the same thing with our sales of Rowe, Idah & Kamara

I don't really think that's relevant. People on this forum are quoting Crnac's transfer fee as £9m.  Perhaps there would be less pressure if we had paid a more realistic fee? 

[The Dog 40]

As another week passes the elephants appear to have got a whole lot bigger.