Capt. Pants 5,138 Posted October 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, Petriix said: I do find it odd that the Sargent 'foul' didn't make the highlights and is generally getting less attention than the (ultimately less significant) Kenny red card. I was right behind that one as was the ref. Unfortunately Sarge angles his run directly into the defender. I believe the ref gave the foul against Sarge, which was probably right. Had he run away from the defender then it would have been very different. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,248 Posted October 29, 2024 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: I was right behind that one as was the ref. Unfortunately Sarge angles his run directly into the defender. I believe the ref gave the foul against Sarge, which was probably right. Had he run away from the defender then it would have been very different. I agree in principal, but the issue is regardless of where Josh was, what gave the defender the OK to put both his arms round his neck? Like grab him by the torso or something, but the head and neck?! Thats dangerous play. Edited October 29, 2024 by Nexus_Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 3,240 Posted October 29, 2024 Haaland won plaudits for doing exactly the same recently. If you're goal-side, defending the ball by getting your body between it and the defender is exactly what you should do. There's nothing wrong with protecting the ball, it's putting your arms around the other player and preventing them moving that's the foul. Football is a contact sport and using your strength is a massive part of the game. If you penalise strikers for fending off the defender with their upper body then you'll halve the number of goals you see. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 3,128 Posted October 29, 2024 58 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: I was right behind that one as was the ref. Unfortunately Sarge angles his run directly into the defender. I believe the ref gave the foul against Sarge, which was probably right. Had he run away from the defender then it would have been very different. Didn't the ref play advantage? That means the ref saw it as a foul on Sargent but saw advantage to be had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazza 69 Posted October 29, 2024 5 hours ago, Petriix said: That would be like us calling ourselves 'The Rich'... We call ourselves The Canaries, but that's not the teams name. From the MFC website... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,138 Posted October 29, 2024 45 minutes ago, chicken said: Didn't the ref play advantage? That means the ref saw it as a foul on Sargent but saw advantage to be had. Can't remember now. I haven't seen a replay but in real time it looked 6 of one and half a dozen the other from my seat. Although my mate who sits about 10 rows back from me was absolutely incandescent with rage. It's all about angles and again from where I sat Kenny's red card looks utterly ridiculous, until you see it from a side on view. The ref is really close and probably had the benefit of a few sound affects from the Boro player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 931 Posted October 29, 2024 Well we are not appealing the red card so that tells you all you need to know. Whilst not 'violent' in the sense of a double footed, 'over the top' challenge, there was no way the red card was going to be overturned hence our decision not to pursue. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 6,404 Posted October 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, yellowrider120 said: Well we are not appealing the red card so that tells you all you need to know. Whilst not 'violent' in the sense of a double footed, 'over the top' challenge, there was no way the red card was going to be overturned hence our decision not to pursue. Yeah. Surprised there's been so much debate, to be honest. It's a bit harsh but you can absolutely see why the referee made the decision he did. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 3,240 Posted October 29, 2024 3 hours ago, chicken said: Didn't the ref play advantage? That means the ref saw it as a foul on Sargent but saw advantage to be had. I think it might have been the other way. The ball went through to the keeper and they played on so maybe he gave Brough the advantage. I thought it was a clear foul on Sargent and a definite straight red. I'm fairly sure one of the Norwich coaching staff got booked for their reaction to the incident, the whole bench were fuming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,700 Posted October 29, 2024 6 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: I was right behind that one as was the ref. Unfortunately Sarge angles his run directly into the defender. I believe the ref gave the foul against Sarge, which was probably right. Had he run away from the defender then it would have been very different. I made this point, before being shot down as a Kenny McLean hater 😅 Sarge tried to be clever, and 9 times out of 10 I think he gets it.. but the ref has the perfect view, and the significant deviation of his run probably sways the refs thinking…. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,700 Posted October 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Robert N. LiM said: Yeah. Surprised there's been so much debate, to be honest. It's a bit harsh but you can absolutely see why the referee made the decision he did. 💯 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy2600 392 Posted October 29, 2024 Scythed - Independent, Mirror, Telegraph… oh well, I thought a yellow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites