canarydan23 4,749 Posted October 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sgncfc said: I cannot believe Long is being hammered again on here. Genuinely believe if we had a player who had a game like that binner yesterday, was it Clarke? You'd get people on here avidly defending his performance. Long's howler let Boro back in, Doyle and Slimane's ineptitude has knocked us out. Edited October 27 by canarydan23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 4,272 Posted October 27 9 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Two seasons in a row that Gunn gets an injury, Long goes in goal and it all seems to turn to sh1t. Is it a lack of trust in him so the defence turns to turd? It's exactly this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 793 Posted October 27 Just now, Foxy2600 said: 45 minutes to retrieve it!! Think that’s harsh it looks like a game too many and it just shows we don’t have much squad depth. Really missing Gunn and Nunez and probably Barnes in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,578 Posted October 27 6 minutes ago, sgncfc said: I cannot believe Long is being hammered again on here. Any chance you could all look at the midfield which is completely non-existent? Or the defence which is all over the place? Slimane not taking down Doak for their second when the whole world could see he should have; Doyle being completely outplayed by Doak all half and no one covering; Cordoba and Duffy not picking up Conway in the box. Thorup has to move Fisher across and bring on Chrisene, take Cordoba off; take Crnac off and get another body in the middle. We can still get something here. Absolutely should not take Cordoba off but we need to move Doyle from left back 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 793 Posted October 27 Let’s be honest we are playing for a year unbeaten at home. It’s got along come Norwich all over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,578 Posted October 27 Just now, Jim Smith said: Absolutely should not take Cordoba off but we need to move Doyle from left back And the reason Long is being hammered is because their equaliser completely changed the game. We were well on top before that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,611 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, sgncfc said: So the fact that their only striker is completely unmarked 4 yards from our goal is not a feature in who is to blame for you? Yes, he should have stopped that one, but neither the second or third were down to him - and he has made several decent saves. Facing 7 shots on target in 45 minutes at home is not his fault. The first is indefensible. And honestly, as others have pointed out, he has to either hold the ball (difficult) or push the ball out for a corner for the 3rd.. not a mistake.. but a better keeper probably does one of those. Anyway, let’s hope we turn it around eh 🤞 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,228 Posted October 27 6 minutes ago, kick it off said: But competent keepers push that round the post... how is him failing to do that, and giving it to the striker on a plate not his fault? So, we let them take a shot from range, we are not marking the or closing down the rebound and we totally - and i mean totally - switch off as Duffy ball watched and let the man walk past him for a tap in and it's Long's fault? I repeat myself. He's sh*t but let's not use confirmation bias to blame every single problem on him. The first, absolutely his fault, the rest, not really. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,749 Posted October 27 Very, very concerning he hasn't changed it at half time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,903 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, All the Germans said: So, we let them take a shot from range, we are not marking the or closing down the rebound and we totally - and i mean totally - switch off as Duffy ball watched and let the man walk past him for a tap in and it's Long's fault? I repeat myself. He's sh*t but let's not use confirmation bias to blame every single problem on him. The first, absolutely his fault, the rest, not really. We need to defend our box better, for sure, but in the case of the 3rd Boro goal it's something we've seen Long concede from before. It's a confirmed weakness of his and IMO avoidable by most Championship keepers. He's far from the only problem today. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,749 Posted October 27 Having said that, it does look like he's gone 3 at the back, but that means Sainz is wingback? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,611 Posted October 27 Lacking composure in the final third Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 2,062 Posted October 27 (edited) 6 minutes ago, All the Germans said: So, we let them take a shot from range, we are not marking the or closing down the rebound and we totally - and i mean totally - switch off as Duffy ball watched and let the man walk past him for a tap in and it's Long's fault? I repeat myself. He's sh*t but let's not use confirmation bias to blame every single problem on him. The first, absolutely his fault, the rest, not really. He's not the only problem, but he is by far the biggest problem. Also, lets break it down, why does the shot come in? Cuz the entire team have piled into the box and dont close it down... i wonder if the fact that they cant trust the keeper who has conceded yet another howler, plays any part in them staying in the box and not defending aggressively... Edited October 27 by kick it off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,228 Posted October 27 2 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Having said that, it does look like he's gone 3 at the back, but that means Sainz is wingback? Looks like Marcondes to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,228 Posted October 27 Just now, kick it off said: He's not the only problem, but he is by far the biggest problem. I agree that he's the biggest problem that we have. I don't agree that he was the biggest problem in that goal/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,578 Posted October 27 We really lack pace. Crnac starting to look tidy but he’s not quick. Nor really is Gordon. I was hoping he would be the pace option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 2,062 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, All the Germans said: I agree that he's the biggest problem that we have. I don't agree that he was the biggest problem in that goal/ It's the first thing you teach a kid when coaching them to be a goalkeeper. You never parry it into the area. The shot was at a distance where he had time to react and push it round the post. He didn't. If he pushes it round the post, none of the rest mayters because it can't be a goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldy09 191 Posted October 27 The Hoff been shown how to do attacking play today - teams are now working out the Hoff style and one our weakness I believe is that when we go forward in a block,,-one pass behind this block and we are in trouble Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,611 Posted October 27 Zero composure in attack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,228 Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, kick it off said: It's the first thing you teach a kid when coaching them to be a goalkeeper. You never parry it into the area. The shot was at a distance where he had time to react and push it round the post. He didn't. If he pushes it round the post, none of the rest mayters because it can't be a goal. Football is a matter of opinions. We agree to differ. I think the first goal aside, which is absolutely his fault, the rest is not his and if it was Gunn, nobody even mentions it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interwebme 60 Posted October 27 Is Doak this good or Doyle this bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 2,062 Posted October 27 Just now, All the Germans said: Football is a matter of opinions. We agree to differ. I think the first goal aside, which is absolutely his fault, the rest is not his and if it was Gunn, nobody even mentions it. Probably cuz if it's Gunn, it doesn't happen 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,578 Posted October 27 I was fearful about this game because all the stats say Boro create the most good chances in the league. With the joker in goal that was always a worry.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 2,062 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, interwebme said: Is Doak this good or Doyle this bad? Both I think, Doyle was awful midweek too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,356 Posted October 27 Mad that Doyle is still on the pitch, Chrisene should have been on at HT 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,228 Posted October 27 Not sure about these changes. Marcondes had to be coming off for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,778 Posted October 27 Oh Sainz come on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy2600 375 Posted October 27 1 minute ago, kick it off said: Both I think, Doyle was awful midweek too Doak needs to be in Panto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
