Emiliano Marcondes

[JonnyJonnyRowe 1,041]

Sounds like he might be one who turns up, attacking midfielder.

https://www.tipsbladet.dk/nyhed/generelle/selvfoelgelig-er-emiliano-marcondes-interessant

The Thorup quotes translated into English?

https://sportwitness.co.uk/great-person-good-player-norwich-city-manager-throws-some-transfer-hints-to-danish-media/

Thorup been talking to him.

I believe we can still sign free agents.

ps. Shouldn't the Pink'un journalists be picking up on things like this?

[dylanisabaddog 6,189]

I just read that as Thorup trying to help a player he has previously managed. 

[daz 161]

The one who played for Brentford? Yes plz

[chicken 3,138]

Short term deal to cover Onel/Gibbs?

[Feedthewolf 5,921]

40 minutes ago, chicken said:

Short term deal to cover Onel/Gibbs?

No harm at all in signing him until next summer with a club option for an extra year IMO.

[JonnyJonnyRowe 1,041]

10 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

No harm at all in signing him until next summer with a club option for an extra year IMO.

It does feel like we need another option there with Forson having an inconsistent start, and Gibbs always been completely unconvincing that far up the pitch in my view (a bit better deeper).

[JonnyJonnyRowe 1,041]

2 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said:

I just read that as Thorup trying to help a player he has previously managed. 

That may be the case, however he was only his manager for 8 games, is that anywhere long enough to develop that sort of bond?

Could equally be holding out for Marcondes to lower his wage demands by a few grand to fit into our budget 😀

[Capt. Pants 5,151]

In the article Thorup is hinting that Marcondes needs to be somewhere for 2 or 3 years.

The only slight issue some might have is that bringing in someone now is being a bit judgemental on players who haven't had many games to adjust. I don't have a problem with it as Forson, Crnac and Schwartau aren't consistent enough, but they might not be if Marcondes takes their place.

[JonnyJonnyRowe 1,041]

2 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

In the article Thorup is hinting that Marcondes needs to be somewhere for 2 or 3 years.

The only slight issue some might have is that bringing in someone now is being a bit judgemental on players who haven't had many games to adjust. I don't have a problem with it as Forson, Crnac and Schwartau aren't consistent enough, but they might not be if Marcondes takes their place.

If we signed Marcondes my first thought would probably be that Thorup doesn't fancy Fasshnacht at all. 

Fassnacht out of contract in the summer, and he's a year older.

So Marcondes in now, Fassnacht out on loan somewhere in January when Marcondes is up to speed to try and earn a perm or put himself in the shop window would make some sense to me. 

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,486]

If Norwich were going to sign him, they would have done so already. I read Throup's quotes more as a sign that Norwich have passed on him and won't be going for him. He gives some nice platitudes about him, but is also fairly clear he isn't a player Norwich want to bring in.

"As a club, we had to find out how he would fit into that strategy and how he would fit into our plans. Immediately it wasn't exactly something we were missing[...]"

"Of course he will be interesting, but for the strategy we have laid out, he does not fit in 100 percent. He would raise the average age, and we have lowered the average age in our squad and starting line-up."

[chicken 3,138]

3 hours ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

If Norwich were going to sign him, they would have done so already. I read Throup's quotes more as a sign that Norwich have passed on him and won't be going for him. He gives some nice platitudes about him, but is also fairly clear he isn't a player Norwich want to bring in.

"As a club, we had to find out how he would fit into that strategy and how he would fit into our plans. Immediately it wasn't exactly something we were missing[...]"

"Of course he will be interesting, but for the strategy we have laid out, he does not fit in 100 percent. He would raise the average age, and we have lowered the average age in our squad and starting line-up."

I sort of take that with a pinch of salt. I think it very interested that he hasn't been completely ruled out at all. "Immediately" for example, which was said during the summer.

I think I'm right in saying Barnes, Hernandez and Fasi are all out of contract next summer? Three, experienced attacking players, all older than Marcondes.

As they say, anything is possible. I can see a situation where Barnes and Fasi are told they're free to find themselves new clubs in Jan and Marcondes brought in.

[jaberry2 787]

We are very light up front in terms of if Sargeant gets injured currently. Of course crnac can play there and you can move an option to right hand side in Gordon 

[JonnyJonnyRowe 1,041]

6 hours ago, chicken said:

I sort of take that with a pinch of salt. I think it very interested that he hasn't been completely ruled out at all. "Immediately" for example, which was said during the summer.

I think I'm right in saying Barnes, Hernandez and Fasi are all out of contract next summer? Three, experienced attacking players, all older than Marcondes.

As they say, anything is possible. I can see a situation where Barnes and Fasi are told they're free to find themselves new clubs in Jan and Marcondes brought in.

Thorup "he needs two or three years" and the lowering age of the squad stuff..

Probably translates roughly into "we offered him a year with a one year trigger due his age but he wanted a three year deal, maybe he'll come and sign for us now he hasn't found the deal he wants elsewhere"

 

Edited October 1, 2024 by JonnyJonnyRowe

[Gordon Bennett 948]

https://www.pinkun.com/sport/norwich-city/24627451.norwich-city-transfer-news-emiliano-marcondes-deal-close/

[jaberry2 787]

I do wonder what Marcondes can offer still after a brief spell in the scottish league, but we are a little light in offensive options. Albeit this is slightly against the grain of what players we are currently looking at but injuries have seemingly forced us into the market.

[king canary 8,933]

On 01/10/2024 at 19:20, jaberry2 said:

We are very light up front in terms of if Sargeant gets injured currently. Of course crnac can play there and you can move an option to right hand side in Gordon 

Yes I wonder if we see him as an option to play out wide and free up Crnac to be an alternative to Sargent.

[norwich canary 171]

An indication of how bad our summer transfer window has been. When last did we have to scrap the bottom of the barrel for a player 

[NewNestCarrow 306]

On 01/10/2024 at 09:44, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

If Norwich were going to sign him, they would have done so already. I read Throup's quotes more as a sign that Norwich have passed on him and won't be going for him. He gives some nice platitudes about him, but is also fairly clear he isn't a player Norwich want to bring in.

"As a club, we had to find out how he would fit into that strategy and how he would fit into our plans. Immediately it wasn't exactly something we were missing[...]"

"Of course he will be interesting, but for the strategy we have laid out, he does not fit in 100 percent. He would raise the average age, and we have lowered the average age in our squad and starting line-up."

And the very next paragraph he suggests that if a particular need arose then the situation might change:

“Singing about something that doesn’t fit 100 percent in the strategy, it has to be because it’s something we’re specifically missing in a position or as support for some players. But he's obviously interesting and one we're always keeping an eye on," Hoff Thorup told Tipsbladet in September [my emphasis]

Since September we have learned that we will be without Barnes for an extended period. 

[chicken 3,138]

6 minutes ago, norwich canary said:

An indication of how bad our summer transfer window has been. When last did we have to scrap the bottom of the barrel for a player 

Summer transfer window was pretty decent considering the behaviour of players like Idah and Rowe.

You can't legislate for injuries and some of it appears to be ability to play Hoffs style. Fasi, for example, not given a chance wide.

Onel injured along with Barnes means Crnac wide and Sargent up front is what we're looking at.

Roberts not deamed quite ready too.

I suspect it could be more about experience too. Onel and Barnes represent our two most experienced players in the attacking department both in number of games and the level at which they've played.

Youth is grand, you still need some wise heads.

McLean and Duffy are it on the pitch at the moment.

[Carrow89 270]

I see no problem with signing him. We are well short of experienced players, hence Slimane being brought in. Looks like he is not quite up to PL level but should be OK for the Championship. And with not knowing who else will next be injured, an extra body will not go amiss. Let's hope though, he is not another Sid Honkytonk 😉

 

[Jim Smith 2,641]

I would struggle a bit to understand this move as we have plenty of attacking midfielders which is what I’ve always thought he is? What we lack is a Sargent replacement should something happen to him. Marcondes is not the same type of player. 

[Carrow89 270]

So we should wait another 3 months ?

 

[Carrow89 270]

"In all likelihood, if Norwich do bring Marcondes in, it will be on a short-term deal until January, and then they can assess their options.

If you're a club with a lack of attacking midfield options because of a mini injury crisis, and you have the option to sign a player who is experienced in your division and who your manager already knows, then why wouldn't you?

If he can play at a consistent level in the top Scottish league for one of their better teams, then he should be able to do a job in the Championship, even if it's just temporarily. They'd just need to hope that his fitness picks up quickly enough that they can get some decent use out of him, if he does join on a short-term deal"

Edited October 3, 2024 by Carrow89

[Ken Hairy 4,319]

3 goals in 81 for Brentford, I always thought he seemed more prolific than that when he was with them 

[AJ 1,377]

2 hours ago, Ken Hairy said:

3 goals in 81 for Brentford, I always thought he seemed more prolific than that when he was with them 

Sounds more prolific than Drmic 😅

[AJ 1,377]

Basically confirmed by Thorup it's nearly done, said wasn't a target before but injuries have forced hand. It's a long ol' season so probably a sensible piece of business if he's on a short term or relatively low expenses deal

[LaUnionCanary 150]

Rest of the season with an option for another year.

[Bovril 269]

His record is woeful but is an emergency signing due to bodies needed. Only on a 1-year deal (with option) so nothing to lose really. 

[aBee 176]

20 hours ago, Ken Hairy said:

3 goals in 81 for Brentford, I always thought he seemed more prolific than that when he was with them 

We had the feeling Dean Smith didn’t particularly want him and didn’t play him in his best position. He also had quite a lot of time out injured. 
 

In his final season he was offered a new contract reflecting that he wasn’t going to be a regular first team starter. He played very well the remainder of the season including scoring in the play offs. Well enough that it felt a little sad that he was off and I think he hoped he’d done enough to get a new offer. 
 

Friends who are Hibs STs say he was excellent for them last season and they’d have loved him to stay. 
 

He seems a v nice guy and I think he’d do well in the Championship again if he fitted a position you need. 29 is hardly ancient and it doesn’t hurt to have a senior player who’s won a play off final. 

[Robert N. LiM 6,435]

4 minutes ago, aBee said:

We had the feeling Dean Smith didn’t particularly want him

This sounds very promising.