Team Culture

[Monty13 2,736]

Does there seem to be a noticeable difference in team culture to others?

I know it’s easy to be all smiles and hugs when you’ve just won 4-1, but I actually thought throughout the match there was some real signs of togetherness coming from the players.

I thought they just seemed to be noticeably more pleased to be playing with and for each other from their interactions.

[Robert N. LiM 6,279]

Have always loved that Steve Archibald line that "team spirit is an illusion glimpsed in the aftermath of victory". 

So who knows. But all my favourite City teams have been greater than the sum of their parts, so here's hoping. Certainly seems what JHT is all about.

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

Yeah I thought this.

Fisher getting congratulated by the rest of the back 4 after beating multiple men was a lovely touch, as was Duffy leading the applause when he was subbed.

Proper togetherness seems to be growing. Team spirit and having a squad unit is what makes it.

Even Duffy impressed me a lot today a great outing and even some leadership from him today.

[Capt. Pants 5,008]

It's better but there was a few moments after Watford scored and that rather shambolic corner when it looked a bit flakey.

We clawed our way back into the game and scored our 2nd at a perfect time. Everybody did their job with each player having good moments. Good team performance all round I thought.

[canarydan23 4,761]

51 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said:

as was Duffy leading the applause when he was subbed.

I actually think Duffy was applauding the crowd after everyone got their feet to clap Fisher off, as he clapped to each of the stands.

[cornish sam 1,040]

I loved the way that after the final whistle everyone seemed to be so genuinely happy for Nunez getting a goal

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

1 hour ago, canarydan23 said:

I actually think Duffy was applauding the crowd after everyone got their feet to clap Fisher off, as he clapped to each of the stands.

Either way, class from Duffy to be sure 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,615]

2 hours ago, cornish sam said:

I loved the way that after the final whistle everyone seemed to be so genuinely happy for Nunez getting a goal

He's been our best player so far this season, in my opinion, but always seems to go under the radar.

[Capt. Pants 5,008]

2 hours ago, canarydan23 said:

I actually think Duffy was applauding the crowd after everyone got their feet to clap Fisher off, as he clapped to each of the stands.

It was a nice reaction from the crowd and a great moment in the game. Fisher put in one of those performances that fans love. Not perfect by any means but did an awful lot right including a couple of great challenges and that chase back after being beaten (possibly fouled) by their winger was superb.

Duffy was solid today, he didn't do much wrong either.

[East Rider 589]

A lot of our players were on their A game and it showed.

[Newtopia 573]

Team spirit is often over used, I genuinely thought Wagner also did a good job with the outward appearance of unity.   Thorup seems to be doing a good job, especially considering he is giving less game time to some big characters - Hanley and Barnes (although he is apparently injured) and some talented youngsters opted out.

Edited September 22 by Newtopia

[Petriix 3,219]

9 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

He's been our best player so far this season, in my opinion, but always seems to go under the radar.

Whisper it, but he might just be developing some of those CDM attributes we've been missing. 

[Jim Smith 2,610]

35 minutes ago, Petriix said:

Whisper it, but he might just be developing some of those CDM attributes we've been missing. 

I agree although the area their number 8 (class player) was operating in did show that we still lack someone to sit in that area consistently. fortunately there are not many players like him at championship level. 

[East Rider 589]

16 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

I agree although the area their number 8 (class player) was operating in did show that we still lack someone to sit in that area consistently. fortunately there are not many players like him at championship level. 

Their number 8, Giorgi Chakvetadze (Georgian) was absolutely brilliant in midfield yesterday and ran the show for them. Easily their best player in my opinion.

If we ever get promoted again we should be looking at someone like him, especially as he is only 24/25 yrs old right now.

[andyc24_uk 79]

We brought in what, 9 new players over the summer, let quite a few go who'd been here for a while, and there are 5 or 6 youngsters who are stepping up from maybe being around the club but not in and amongst the first team squad to regular seats at the top table. It was always going to take a month or two for everything to begin to click as players form bonds and connections on and off the pitch, but signs are there that it's happening now and we seem to have a team of lads who are all pulling in the same direction. Very positive signs and exciting for the future!

[Ulfotto 798]

Meh I thought the team unity was pretty good last season. It is helped by having a really honest group of players imo. Everyone is working hard and putting a shift in there are no players with bad attitudes or bad body language.

I guess the difference is that expectation. That  was the first home league win of the season? Nearly two months into the seasons in either of the last seasons if we hadn’t got a home win by the end of September the atmosphere in the stadium would have been very different.

[dylanisabaddog 6,135]

50 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

I agree although the area their number 8 (class player) was operating in did show that we still lack someone to sit in that area consistently. fortunately there are not many players like him at championship level. 

Early days but we won't see many better players than him this season. I don't know his name but he played very well 

[canarydan23 4,761]

10 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

He's been our best player so far this season, in my opinion, but always seems to go under the radar.

I agree, but I'm biased because I made an early prediction that he'd be POTS if he stayed during all those Besiktas rumours.

[Badger 2,745]

10 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

He's been our best player so far this season, in my opinion, but always seems to go under the radar.

If you look at the 4th goal he had five or six passes in it! Great goal!

[Mason 47 1,924]

I think it's fair to say that yesterday was a bit of a watershed for the players. As JHT suggested in his post-match, he's been telling the group that we're improving and results will come, but there is only so long that'll hold water if we dont pick up wins.

Yesterday felt like a real demonstration that what they're working on can yield serious results. Not perfect by any means- Watford were quite poor IMO-but there's something there, and we know now where the bar for performance needs to be.

[Mengo 852]

14 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

It's better but there was a few moments after Watford scored and that rather shambolic corner when it looked a bit flakey.

We clawed our way back into the game and scored our 2nd at a perfect time. Everybody did their job with each player having good moments. Good team performance all round I thought.

We clawed our way back into the game and scored our 2nd at a perfect time. Everybody did their job with each player having good moments. Good team performance all round I thought.

This and This. Everybody did their job. 

Great impressive performance 👍🎯

[Hackney Canary 106]

4 hours ago, East Rider said:

Their number 8, Giorgi Chakvetadze (Georgian) was absolutely brilliant in midfield yesterday and ran the show for them. Easily their best player in my opinion.

If we ever get promoted again we should be looking at someone like him, especially as he is only 24/25 yrs old right now.

Totally agree. Thought he was outstanding. Had a bit of the Rooney about him, for me. Only on loan at Watford for the season, so when Thorup inevitably takes us up at the first time of asking he might be worth a look. 
 

Also thought the team spirit was outstanding. The reaction after Nunez scored being only one example. You don’t get many whole team pile ons in the second month of the season. Also the general fist bumping and slapping. It’s clearly something that’s been thought about on the training ground, as a way of drawing commitment. I like it. 
 

Let’s hope there’s more to come - if we can operate on or near this level on the regular, and iron out the patches of passivity, we’ll give most teams in the league a damn good game. 

[PurpleCanary 6,382]

18 minutes ago, Hackney Canary said:

Totally agree. Thought he was outstanding. Had a bit of the Rooney about him, for me. Only on loan at Watford for the season, so when Thorup inevitably takes us up at the first time of asking he might be worth a look. 
 

Also thought the team spirit was outstanding. The reaction after Nunez scored being only one example. You don’t get many whole team pile ons in the second month of the season. Also the general fist bumping and slapping. It’s clearly something that’s been thought about on the training ground, as a way of drawing commitment. I like it. 
 

Let’s hope there’s more to come - if we can operate on or near this level on the regular, and iron out the patches of passivity, we’ll give most teams in the league a damn good game. 

The loan was turned into a permanent move in the last winter window. He certainly looked  classy, and hard-working.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

13 hours ago, Ulfotto said:

Meh I thought the team unity was pretty good last season. It is helped by having a really honest group of players imo. Everyone is working hard and putting a shift in there are no players with bad attitudes or bad body language.

I guess the difference is that expectation. That  was the first home league win of the season? Nearly two months into the seasons in either of the last seasons if we hadn’t got a home win by the end of September the atmosphere in the stadium would have been very different.

I think the team spirit and unity was exceptional last season. In the end you had a manager and group of players who despite knowing there'd be huge changes in the summer produced enough pride in performance and the shirt to qualify for the play-offs with zero help from outside the group. But that was a siege mentality unity and hopefully this season the unity will be broader. I see no reason why we can't make the play-offs again.

[TheGunnShow 7,377]

8 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

I think the team spirit and unity was exceptional last season. In the end you had a manager and group of players who despite knowing there'd be huge changes in the summer produced enough pride in performance and the shirt to qualify for the play-offs with zero help from outside the group. But that was a siege mentality unity and hopefully this season the unity will be broader. I see no reason why we can't make the play-offs again.

I dunno, at the bit in bold you're looking at the team collective gelling quickly and efficiently enough, not to mention getting results consistently enough so it can withstand the departures of Rowe and Sara, and at the moment we're really a Sargent injury from wondering who's going up top as Crnac is still settling in and Barnes is out. Unless Onel fancies another crack after his Stevenage exploits in the Carabao??

[rock bus 1,059]

10 hours ago, TheGunnShow said:

I dunno, at the bit in bold you're looking at the team collective gelling quickly and efficiently enough, not to mention getting results consistently enough so it can withstand the departures of Rowe and Sara, and at the moment we're really a Sargent injury from wondering who's going up top as Crnac is still settling in and Barnes is out. Unless Onel fancies another crack after his Stevenage exploits in the Carabao??

Whilst I agree with general point and that play offs are unlikely. Saturday proved we can score goals across the team which I think is JHT’s aim with the style of play. Sargent brings a lot to the team, even without scoring but we might end up not being quite so reliant on him.

Edited September 23 by rock bus

[TheGunnShow 7,377]

4 minutes ago, rock bus said:

Whilst I agree with general point and that play offs are unlikely. Saturday proved we can score goals across the team which I think is JHT’s aim with the style of play. Sargent brings a lot to the team, even without scoring but we might end up not being quite so reliant on him.

Definitely agree in essence with that, I'm just saying it generally needs a well-grooved team for that to be a consistent occurrence when we're very much in the opening stages of getting a team together.

The thing I'd question is not being so reliant on Sargent. In terms of goals then sure, that's a fair point. But I'd say his willingness and ability to lead from the front is something we're invariably going to rely on as his workrate really is something, and it creates space for the others to be more dangerous themselves even if Sargent's shooting boots mean he should be demoted to Special Constable. 😉

[Year of the tiger 66]

On 22/09/2024 at 08:16, Ulfotto said:

Meh I thought the team unity was pretty good last season. It is helped by having a really honest group of players imo. Everyone is working hard and putting a shift in there are no players with bad attitudes or bad body language.

I guess the difference is that expectation. That  was the first home league win of the season? Nearly two months into the seasons in either of the last seasons if we hadn’t got a home win by the end of September the atmosphere in the stadium would have been very different.

First home win at the end of September...we've only played 3 home games & the previous one was 4 weeks ago. You make it sound as if we'd played  half a dozen games & lost them all. 

[Ulfotto 798]

1 hour ago, Year of the tiger said:

First home win at the end of September...we've only played 3 home games & the previous one was 4 weeks ago. You make it sound as if we'd played  half a dozen games & lost them all. 

I agree but just imagine if Wagner and Smith had no wins in there first three home games. The game would have been seen as make or break, boos at half time and full time if we weren’t winning.

Edited September 23 by Ulfotto

[Capt. Pants 5,008]

It's really too early to make any assumptions. With a fair wind and strengthening the squad further in January we could realistically make the play-offs.

Likewise a couple of injuries and we could be scrapping around the bottom half, but that's the case for most teams in the league.

No reason we can't push for top 6 and 'rebuild' at the same time. At some point you have to learn to win matches and in the Championship in particular you don't necessarily have to play well to do it.