Sarge watch

[Dean Coneys boots 1,531]

I will be so disappointed if we sell Sarge. We saw last night how toothless we are without him. It would be suicidal at this stage. 

however Brentford have just sold Toney and I have a horrid feeling they might take a punt…

fingers crossed, someone block him into his drive, better still lock him up for 48 hrs without a phone…

[jaberry2 769]

Be suicidal this late in the window to sell him regardless of price 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,620]

Brentford have not sold Toney. 

Only you could be this 'disappointed' about something that's incredibly unlikely to happen. 

[cambridgeshire canary 7,799]

We turned down 20 million for him already. Would have to be a huge bid. Do you see them bidding 30-40 million for him?

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

Just now, cambridgeshire canary said:

We turned down 20 million for him already. Would have to be a huge bid. Do you see them bidding 30-40 million for him?

Would have to be a daft figure with a certain replacement coming the other way - it seems unlikely but you never know. 

[Mason 47 1,925]

5 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

We turned down 20 million for him already. Would have to be a huge bid. Do you see them bidding 30-40 million for him?

The key thing is that he's probably never going to be worth much of a profit to whoever buys at the price we will require. He doesn't represent an investment IMO which is why I'd rule Brentford out in particular- they will either get proven PL quality or someone with a tonne of potential + resale value. Sargent is neither.

Edited August 28 by Mason 47

[Mason 47 1,925]

Double post

Edited August 28 by Mason 47

[Capt. Pants 5,013]

Toney linked with Chelsea and Man Utd but Sterling and Sancho included in the deals which reduce Brentford's need for Sargent.

There's a good post on the transfer rumours thread mentioning Sarge to the MLS in January, which sounds more likely to me.

 

 

[Walcombe canary 82]

I think Chris Sutton knows - That our Top Striker can be sold this window. The issue will be the replacement

[Dean Coneys boots 1,531]

I think Chris Sutton is bang on in suggesting losing Sargent could end in relegation too 

[Hardhouse44 289]

I think if we sell Sarge now it would  be a damming reflection on the new owners ambitions and understanding of the game and the fans. 
From both the fans and the clubs side we can’t just keep saying we’re in a rebuilding period when someone like Sargent is already where we need a player to be and as our only recognised first team striker needs to stay and fight for the cause. 

[norfolkngood 1,174]

it is not really if he goes it is who the replacement will be and if we sign say two players with the money will they make the team stronger ?

i think say sarge goes for 25 million and we sign two players for 12.5 million then is that a bad thing ? 

the problem is if we were interested in two 12.5 million players i think we might know something by now ,

Once the club decides to sell the player i am more worried about who is going to replace him and Knapper would have to do well to replace Sarge 

Edited August 29 by norfolkngood

[Coneys Knee 1,050]

5 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

it is not really if he goes it is who the replacement will be and if we sign say two players with the money will they make the team stronger ?

i think say sarge goes for 25 million and we sign two players for 12.5 million then is that a bad thing ? 

the problem is if we were interested in two 12.5 million players i think we might know something by now ,

Once the club decides to sell the player i am more worried about who is going to replace him and Knapper would have to do well to replace Sarge 

Exactly this. Luv doesn’t have a good track record of making adequate replacements. That’s what worries me.

[norfolkngood 1,174]

Just now, Coneys Knee said:

Exactly this. Luv doesn’t have a good track record of making adequate replacements. That’s what worries me.

yes that worries me to but that is how as a club and team we can improve 

the problem is we have sold Sara and Rowe ,

we have got some good young players in and i am sure they will do well ,

if Sarge goes it is a bit different in my eyes we can not wait years for a youngster to improve ,

the replacement is going to have to score goals this season unless we are in trouble ,

we had Pukki when Sarge was getting up to speed ,

this season we have Sarge and only Sarge 

 

 

[JonnyJonnyRowe 974]

11 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Brentford have not sold Toney. 

They will though.

That is beyond doubt. He's out of contract next summer, he'll be leaving in this window. To either Chelsea or Man Utd.

[JonnyJonnyRowe 974]

1 hour ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

I think Chris Sutton is bang on in suggesting losing Sargent could end in relegation too 

I completely agree with this assessment.

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,620]

1 minute ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said:

They will though.

That is beyond doubt. He's out of contract next summer, he'll be leaving in this window. To either Chelsea or Man Utd.

I'm sure they will but it hasn't happened yet. 

He's been offered £400k a week in Saudi Arabia and that's a real possibility as well.

[norfolkngood 1,174]

2 minutes ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said:

They will though.

That is beyond doubt. He's out of contract next summer, he'll be leaving in this window. To either Chelsea or Man Utd.

i think he will go to Man Utd 

they need someone like him 

[Paul101 191]

28 minutes ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said:

They will though.

That is beyond doubt. He's out of contract next summer, he'll be leaving in this window. To either Chelsea or Man Utd.

Tony turned down the Saudi move and might turn down the others as well who knows  

one thing is certain next year he can get that 400k a week in saudi plus the 35m-50m  transfer fee in his pocket as well 

[Hardhouse44 289]

The other thing is. If owners have any ambition at all then you can’t sell a player deemed not good enough in the form of Idah for £9m say and then expect to bring in better for £5m. You have to pay the going rate for what’s available. 
a rate that is set but what someone else is will to pay in many cases. 

[S_81 1,102]

There’s surely no financial need to sell Sarge. Obviously a huge 25m+ offer will tempt them however. And if Sarge wanted to go that’s another matter. But as far as the books at this point are concerned surely there’s no ‘need’ to sell. 

[Yobocop 1,444]

If we sell him now it’ll be at an overly inflated price, yes it would be a shame but may be the best thing for player and club

[Badger 2,745]

31 minutes ago, Hardhouse44 said:

The other thing is. If owners have any ambition at all then you can’t sell a player deemed not good enough in the form of Idah for £9m say and then expect to bring in better for £5m. You have to pay the going rate for what’s available. 
a rate that is set but what someone else is will to pay in many cases. 

Paying the "going rate" is highly unlikely to be part of their plans. The aim will be to buy cheap and sell high. Find potential diamonds, polish them up and sell them for a good profit is the strategy.

[birchfest 401]

I feel very relaxed about Sarg to be honest, generally teams that have a top target and big funds go in early to secure their player, abit like Buendia and Villa being at the very start of that window.  You leave it to the last minute and you know you’ll have to pay well over the odds to compensate not just the player but also for the teams inability to likely get a replacement. For that exact reason the valuation we have will likely be 5- 10 million more than clubs currently would be willing to go in for him with.

 

I think, and it’s fairly realistic to say, when we don’t go up he will be off in the summer. But thankfully he’s on a long contract and if he pushes on and gets 20+ we could be in a position to play hardball for a club record of 40 million or so. 

[wr4sb 66]

Ah, like when Liverpool replaced Fernando Torres with Andy Carroll 

[birchfest 401]

I mean they also signed Suarez that window so six of one and half a dozen of the other 

[In my blood 107]

On the Pinkun main page, McLean states that Sarge is the best striker in the championship. Thanks for pointing that out Kenny!

[Mason 47 1,925]

19 minutes ago, In my blood said:

 Thanks for pointing that out Kenny!

Well, it is what he's known best for after all 

[Indy 3,471]

If Sarge wants to leave and has the correct offer then good on him, deserves the chance to player higher level.

Its about managing replacements correctly.

[Hardhouse44 289]

11 minutes ago, Indy said:

If Sarge wants to leave and has the correct offer then good on him, deserves the chance to player higher level.

Its about managing replacements correctly.

Fair enough but what if we can’t get a replacement of the right standard before the window closes? Surely we have to think of what’s best for the club not just the player!