Is it time to put an arm around Rowe?

[Capt. Pants 5,146]

13 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

I really hope you are right. We need a united squad because this is going to be a tough season. Disunity could make the difference between mid-table and struggling. There have been many teams in the Championship who suddenly hit a downward spiral and then can't stop it, including ourselves more than a decade ago.

Agreed. There were positive signs against Stevenage; good goals, Onel's attitude, Forson's performance and even Hanley coming on the pitch at the end to congratulate those that played.

It's far from broken yet, we hope!

[horsefly 5,307]

12 minutes ago, chicken said:

Beyond that, as @Feedthewolf has said it's money. You don't want a player sitting in the U21's if you want to sell them. It gives the impression you don't want them, which means clubs are less likely to meet your valuation.

Work with them, get their heads back in the game, get them back in the squad and you send the message that this player is valuable to you, and you are prepared to work with them still.

It's a complete lose-lose if you consign them to the U21's. Maybe some humble pie and groveling to the first team squad first?

Indeed! Remember when Lambert acted tough by publicly humiliating Darren Bent. Ended up being an £18m acquisition who spent his time out of the first team before leaving for nothing.

[Big Vince 430]

18 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

 

Throwup has no clue what he is talking about and comes across as painfully weak.

Since when does anyone in football have it tough in comparison to Joe Nobody?

It is now too late for Rowe to publicly apologise. He needed to do it immediately. 

He thinks he is bigger than the club and must be punished harshly.

[Michael Starr 583]

Sometimes it's a smart move to compromise. Ultimately, we kinda need Rowe and Rowe kinda needs us. Stubbornness = lose lose all round. What we're doing is smart. Punishment has happened but the message is "there is a way back"

Edited August 16, 2024 by Michael Starr

[shefcanary 3,072]

5 hours ago, canarybubbles said:

Rowe has done nothing publicly as far as I know

He did "like" the club's posts on Instagram which covered the match versus Stevenage. 

Not much, but a potentially a sign .... it is a social media driven world of comms nowadays.

5 hours ago, Blofield Canary said:

In some respects this shows the lack of on field leadership at the club. One of the senior players should be taking him to one side and have a word in his ear about his attitude and behavior.  A few choice words from Grant Hanley, Shane Duffy or even the Mayor would not go amiss. Let him know what his team mates think of his behavior.

I agree with this - if there was the right level of leadership among the older hands, then a young player would have approached them for a quiet word, then would have been properly advised, and nothing would have been heard about it. I just don't see that with these three. 🤷‍♂️

Edited August 16, 2024 by shefcanary

[Norfolk Mustard 106]

7 hours ago, Big Vince said:

Throwup has no clue what he is talking about and comes across as painfully weak.

Since when does anyone in football have it tough in comparison to Joe Nobody?

It is now too late for Rowe to publicly apologise. He needed to do it immediately. 

He thinks he is bigger than the club and must be punished harshly.

Modern-day 'Empathetic Leadership' in action - it gets my support Vince...

[ricardo 8,098]

7 hours ago, Big Vince said:

 

He thinks he is bigger than the club and must be punished harshly.

Hangin's too good for 'im.

[baldy09 200]

11 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Hangin's too good for 'im.

Stocks ! I say let the fans decide whether its tomatoes or custard to be thrown at him- 

[Fen Canary 1,462]

1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Hangin's too good for 'im.

He’ll probably get away with crucifixion, first offence 

[Mello Yello 2,585]

58 minutes ago, Fen Canary said:

He’ll probably get away with crucifixion, first offence 

Nailed it.....

[astro 423]

Anyone else think that it’s possible he’ll play a part tomorrow? 🤔

[Grando 342]

3 minutes ago, astro said:

Anyone else think that it’s possible he’ll play a part tomorrow? 🤔

Er, no.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,065]

11 minutes ago, astro said:

Anyone else think that it’s possible he’ll play a part tomorrow? 🤔

...can only imagine the reception if he warmed up in front of the snakepit

....unless he's issued a public apology between now and then

Edited August 16, 2024 by GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary

[Branston Pickle 4,168]

6 minutes ago, astro said:

Anyone else think that it’s possible he’ll play a part tomorrow? 🤔

Seems unlikely if he has been training with the u21’s.

Seems Vince will only be happy if he is wheeled out to the centre circle to prostrate himself in apology to all and sundry.  Back in the real world, that is also unlikely to happen. 

[wcorkcanary 4,839]

9 hours ago, Fen Canary said:

He’ll probably get away with crucifixion, first offence 

Keel hauling him will soften his cough.

As stated  somewhere, punishment activated, cool down, kiss n make up, but no capitulation to stroppy players. 

[kenfoggo 261]

If Rowe is “forgiven “ then what signal does that send to other more committed players in the squad? No, Rowe should rightly be ostracised and treated as a pariah until he gets sold. He should never be allowed to pull on a yellow shirt again. Selfish, ungrateful, deluded, unprofessional acts such as his have no place in our club and community culture. Shame on him.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,065]

6 minutes ago, kenfoggo said:

If Rowe is “forgiven “ then what signal does that send to other more committed players in the squad? No, Rowe should rightly be ostracised and treated as a pariah until he gets sold. He should never be allowed to pull on a yellow shirt again. Selfish, ungrateful, deluded, unprofessional acts such as his have no place in our club and community culture. Shame on him.

What message does it send if he does get sold?, that all you have to do is act in this way to force what you want?

Unless Marseille (or anyine else) meets our valuation ,we shouldnt back down.

If he's still here in 2 weeks time, he has no alternative but to apoligise and get on with it, if he wants to play football

[Capt. Pants 5,146]

I wonder if he might sneak onto the bench today? Selected of course, not just in disguise!

[canarybubbles 2,210]

I'm on the strict side as my other comments on this have made clear. But whatever action the club takes, definitely nothing should be done until the transfer window closes. Either he's gone, and so has the problem (sadly also the skill). Or he's here, and the pressure goes on him big time to apologise and make amends with the team mates he has so badly let down, or not play any football for the foreseeable future.

Edited August 17, 2024 by canarybubbles

[Satriales 1,046]

8 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

I wonder if he might sneak onto the bench today? Selected of course, not just in disguise!

Doubt it. 

[Capt. Pants 5,146]

1 minute ago, Satriales said:

Doubt it. 

Me too. Anyway Onel deserves a chance ahead of Rowe, particularly as he didn't even make the bench at Oxford.

[Robert N. LiM 6,422]

14 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

I'm on the strict side as my other comments on this have made clear. But whatever action the club takes, definitely nothing should be done until the transfer window closes. Either he's gone, and so has the problem (sadly also the skill). Or he's here, and the pressure goes on him big time to apologise and make amends with the team mates he has so badly let down, or not play any football for the foreseeable future.

Agree with that on the club's options. But if Rowe's got any sense (and I realise the jury is very much out on this), he should apologise before the window closes, though. An apology after it shuts, if he's still here, is worth much less.

[canarybubbles 2,210]

7 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

Agree with that on the club's options. But if Rowe's got any sense (and I realise the jury is very much out on this), he should apologise before the window closes, though. An apology after it shuts, if he's still here, is worth much less.

Agreed. And if he wants to get the fans onside, it must be public. I don't think an article in the Pink Un stating that he has privately apologised to his coach and team mates will do it for a lot of us. It'll just look like a stitch up between him and the club to keep us on board.

Edited August 17, 2024 by canarybubbles

[Robert N. LiM 6,422]

Just now, canarybubbles said:

Agreed. And if he wants to get the fans onside, it must be public. I don't think an article in the Pink Un stating that he has privately apologised to his coach and team mates will do it for a lot of us. It'll just look like a stitch up between him and the club.

Yup, agreed. Perhaps he should sack his agent and take us on instead.

[kick it off 2,062]

37 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

I wonder if he might sneak onto the bench today? Selected of course, not just in disguise!

No chance. JHT said very clearly in his press conference that Rowe won't be involved today. The other comments he made, essentially sounded like he will bring Rowe back intot the first team fold next week and then see how he behaves moving forward.

[kenfoggo 261]

Even if Rowe is still here at the end of the transfer window and even if Rowe apologises to the Club, his team mates and the supporters I still believe his disgraceful behaviour cannot be overlooked, forgotten or forgiven. A loan spell at Kings Lynn would be appropriate.

[CowboyCanary 39]

On 16/08/2024 at 02:07, Big Vince said:

Throwup has no clue what he is talking about and comes across as painfully weak.

Since when does anyone in football have it tough in comparison to Joe Nobody?

It is now too late for Rowe to publicly apologise. He needed to do it immediately. 

He thinks he is bigger than the club and must be punished harshly.

"tough on him?"  Rowe started this mess and suggesting sympathy?  Not no, but NO! I say dock his pay.