Another goodbye, Abu Kamara

[Fuzzar 1,845]

1 hour ago, Carrow89 said:

"Scottish Premiership side Celtic are now in the race with Hull City to recruit Norwich City attacker Abu Kamara."

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/celtic-join-hull-city-in-race-for-norwich-city-abu-kamara/

Ken Hairy's going to have to hire a minibus at this rate. 

[Harry53 229]

If Hull and Celtic are interested in Kamara, that tells me he is worth keeping and developing. Hope he starts tonight,  as he needs game time to get upto speed

[Yobocop 1,439]

15 hours ago, mannings bandy legs said:

Go on then. Explain what he brings to our game.

Theres a player there for sure, he just hasn’t shown it enough 

[jaberry2 769]

Looks competent on the ball, just lacks pace. Another one which needs gametime. Hopefully we will see this evening.

[Bristol Canary 150]

Kamara featured in the NTT20 21 Under 21 Series and generally those guys don't miss a trick in relation to the EFL. Think it is pretty clear patience will be required but when he gets up to speed he is difficult to stop. 

"Nobody in this list typifies the upward curve of a talent well nurtured than Abu Kamara. Out on loan at a Portsmouth side fighting for and winning promotion, he started in fits and bursts, averaging just 53 minutes of game-time over his first 10 appearances. His campaign’s high-water mark was reached in ‘the business end’. 

In February, Kamara provided a hat-trick of assists in a 4-1 dismantling of Reading. He scored crucial goals in draws that helped to fend off title-chasing Derby and Bolton. He provided threat, creativity and flair, leading to 8 goals and 10 assists over the course of the season – 11 of those goal contributions coming after 1 February 2024."

Hes being asked to play a new role in a new team. Different to one he excelled at last season, it will take time but I believe he is a real talent if nurtured correctly. I hope he gets a start tonight too. 

[Capt. Pants 4,991]

It seems a bit odd to pass the 'get rid' judgement on Kamara based on just 1 league game and an indifferent pre-season when pretty much everyone looked crap.

I don't think there is much difference between top end League One and the Championship tbh, as we found with Ipswich!

We're not exactly flush with attacking wide players at the moment so I like the idea of waiting until January before we decide on his future.

[Carrow89 172]

3 hours ago, Harry53 said:

If Hull and Celtic are interested in Kamara, that tells me he is worth keeping and developing. Hope he starts tonight,  as he needs game time to get upto speed

Nope. You 'get up to speed' in training. You don't field an under par player, when there is likely to be another who is up to speed..I know it is only the League Cup but this slide has to be addressed.

[kenfoggo 261]

Bit difficult to get up to speed in training when you are training against Hanley,McLean, Duffy and other assorted cart horses 

[Rich T The Biscuit 676]

6 hours ago, Fuzzar said:

Ken Hairy's going to have to hire a minibus at this rate. 

Hold that minibus, he's playing tonight so he's not off yet 😆

[MC_NCFC 268]

23 minutes ago, Rich T The Biscuit said:

Hold that minibus, he's playing tonight so he's not off yet 😆

Not everyone does a Rowe and refuses to play before it’s over the line. Give it until mid next week. I’m assured it will be happening. 

[Branston Pickle 4,140]

Glad he scored, but he tried desperately to miss the easiest chance I’ve ever seen!

Edit - holy crap, are we dreadful at defending or what!?  That was pathetic.

Edited August 13 by Branston Pickle

[Danke bitte 1,151]

7 hours ago, Fuzzar said:

Ken Hairy's going to have to hire a minibus at this rate. 

At this rate I’m going with them. Fingers in ears singing “they’ll be comin’ round that mountain when she comes” etc 

[chicken 3,081]

I was walking past an underpass and heard a voice whisper, Kamara's going.

It's nailed on. An underpass is just a corridor under something so it's a sure bet now.

[AJ 1,357]

1 hour ago, Branston Pickle said:

Glad he scored, but he tried desperately to miss the easiest chance I’ve ever seen!

Edit - holy crap, are we dreadful at defending or what!?  That was pathetic.

I did think he'd fluffed it before finally recovering. Don't see him pressing Sargent for a start any time soon on tonight's showing

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

9 hours ago, Fuzzar said:

Ken Hairy's going to have to hire a minibus at this rate. 

Can we sell Rowe to Celtic too? It'll save me a lot of messing about 👍

[Branston Pickle 4,140]

1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said:

Can we sell Rowe to Celtic too? It'll save me a lot of messing about 👍

Just drop him when you’re passing Leeds 

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

2 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said:

Just drop him when you’re passing Leeds 

We'll stop off for a Maccies at Leeds Skelton Lake Services, I'll drop him there.

Should I suggest to Hanley him jumping in, I can pop to Ibrox whilst I'm in Glasgow

[Soldier on 289]

2 hours ago, MC_NCFC said:

Not everyone does a Rowe and refuses to play before it’s over the line. Give it until mid next week. I’m assured it will be happening. 

By who exactly . Your copy of Football manager ?

[Monty13 2,736]

2 hours ago, MC_NCFC said:

Not everyone does a Rowe and refuses to play before it’s over the line. Give it until mid next week. I’m assured it will be happening. 

Guess we’ll find out soon.

[Feedthewolf 5,885]

Kamara didn't really look particularly impressive tonight. Some decent touches, but didn't seem to have much mobility about him or any spark to make things happen.

[canarydan23 4,754]

2 hours ago, MC_NCFC said:

Not everyone does a Rowe and refuses to play before it’s over the line. Give it until mid next week. I’m assured it will be happening. 

Like the time you told us we'd be signing a midfielder and then claimed you were right because it was Eliot Myles who'd already been at the club 2 years?

[ged in the onion bag 959]

On 13/08/2024 at 11:02, Branston Pickle said:

I’ve not written anyone off - from what I’ve seen of him Kamara just doesn’t look ready for Champs yet.  You’re entitled to a different opinion, but clearly Fassnacht was considered a better option on Saturday so Hoff obviously agrees.

What seemed clear on Saturday was that the gaffer got it wrong big time.    Not only in his team selection but also in his bravery, positivity and trust of the younger players.      He must know from existing staff what the problems are.   Its the same old tired names on the teamsheet.    A lack of heart, an expectation to be selected.     A going through the motions on the pitch, evidenced on Saturday and most bizarrely in the play-offs.    Hanley, Duffy, Barnes and McLean need to be tutors now, not mainstays.    

You were asked to explain what Fassnacht bought to the team / game and you didn't do that.   Just because a player is selected in front of another, it doesn't mean that was the right choice.    Based on the evidence, Fassnacht is a bland type player, not sure what he offers and definitely not a guarantee you will get a performance from him when selected...     

[Rich T The Biscuit 676]

17 hours ago, MC_NCFC said:

Not everyone does a Rowe and refuses to play before it’s over the line. Give it until mid next week. I’m assured it will be happening. 

Are you canaryjerry 🤔😆

[hogesar 10,734]

14 hours ago, Feedthewolf said:

Kamara didn't really look particularly impressive tonight. Some decent touches, but didn't seem to have much mobility about him or any spark to make things happen.

I disagree a bit. I wouldn't say he was particularly special but for the first time including pre-season, he looked like he worked well within the shape and structure of the team, and ultimately little things like his lay-off to Mclean is what created Hernandez' first goal. 

[JonnyJonnyRowe 957]

14 hours ago, Feedthewolf said:

Kamara didn't really look particularly impressive tonight. Some decent touches, but didn't seem to have much mobility about him or any spark to make things happen.

I'd still rather we triggered the one year option and loaned him out again than flog him like we did Mumba, he showed last season in League One that there is a player there.

He's just turned 21, he's an England U20 international.

And ultimately, he scored one and assisted one last night against an experienced League One side. 

A few heavy touches and hesitated a couple of times, but I think flogging him would be a rash decision unless it was a silly offer that we couldn't turn down.

[Wimbledoncanary 37]

With Fass and Soro in boots , Rowe learning in the under 21s it would be foolish to loan or sell kamara currently. Need bodies in building. He wont't start against Blackburn but will almost certainly come off the bench. 

[Bristol Canary 150]

I'm almost certain he won't be leaving. All the messaging from the club and the Pinkun is that he is a big part of the plans for this season. Even last night Connor shot down the idea the club would cash in and I don't think he would do that lightly.

My concern is that there seems to be such a rush to judge whether or not he is ready to be a star in the Championship and get similar numbers Jon Rowe. That in my view is not going to be the case. Much more patience will be required and I don't think he is seen as a key starter. 

I really like him, I think he is a classy and much more controlled player than the chaos of Onel and Rowe. His one touch passing is good, has a cultured left foot and can finish off both feet. Importantly he played every game for Portsmouth last year so is rarely unavailable and improved as the year went on as he became more comfortable.  So far he has played 104 minutes for us and has a goal and an assist. 

I'd hazard a guess that if we signed him from Portsmouth off the back of last season he would be getting a lot more patience and people would be genuinely excited by his potential after watching the below highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz0Qg_zWIBQ

[jaberry2 769]

My only concern with Kamara is that he looks about as happy as Hanley half of the time. Clearly a player with potential and one we should give time to, rather than flog and regret it. He needs game time and of course the championship is a step up for him so will take time to see how he fares against a better defender.

I like the fact we have several young england internationals in our team and given time I hope we invest in them so they can reach their potential.

[wr4sb 66]

54 minutes ago, ged in the onion bag said:

What seemed clear on Saturday was that the gaffer got it wrong big time.    Not only in his team selection but also in his bravery, positivity and trust of the younger players.      He must know from existing staff what the problems are.   Its the same old tired names on the teamsheet.    A lack of heart, an expectation to be selected.     A going through the motions on the pitch, evidenced on Saturday and most bizarrely in the play-offs.    Hanley, Duffy, Barnes and McLean need to be tutors now, not mainstays.    

You were asked to explain what Fassnacht bought to the team / game and you didn't do that.   Just because a player is selected in front of another, it doesn't mean that was the right choice.    Based on the evidence, Fassnacht is a bland type player, not sure what he offers and definitely not a guarantee you will get a performance from him when selected...     

Or played a blinder.

Give last years team the chance to show they good enough (or not) for him.

If they are, great, I have a squad I can work with and bring the younger players in gradually, if not, thank you for your service, we'll move on from here without you.

[Branston Pickle 4,140]

53 minutes ago, ged in the onion bag said:

What seemed clear on Saturday was that the gaffer got it wrong big time.    Not only in his team selection but also in his bravery, positivity and trust of the younger players.      He must know from existing staff what the problems are.   Its the same old tired names on the teamsheet.    A lack of heart, an expectation to be selected.     A going through the motions on the pitch, evidenced on Saturday and most bizarrely in the play-offs.    Hanley, Duffy, Barnes and McLean need to be tutors now, not mainstays.    

You were asked to explain what Fassnacht bought to the team / game and you didn't do that.   Just because a player is selected in front of another, it doesn't mean that was the right choice.    Based on the evidence, Fassnacht is a bland type player, not sure what he offers and definitely not a guarantee you will get a performance from him when selected...     

And Kamara was the answer? My opinion is that Fassnacht was a far better option, he is more solid and it appears he does more than you see.  And Hoff obviously agreed.  He didn’t have a great game but that’s life.

Meanwhile, I am hoping we get some decent loans in, that’ll really pee you off😉!