Another goodbye, Abu Kamara

[mastoola 203]

3 hours ago, S_81 said:

If this is true it only adds to the amount of players we need to bring in. Unless we’re relying on some of the dross that have failed us already. 

Of course we are!

[canarybubbles 2,197]

Comments on Fassnacht are unfair in my opinion. He found out he was starting maybe twenty minutes (?) before the game.

Kamara is a bit of a mystery to me. Apparently he was fantastic at Portsmouth, but in his try-outs last season and in his pre-season games he has looked out of his depth. Can it really be as simple as the difference in level between the Champs and L1?

[Indy 3,471]

6 hours ago, Branston Pickle said:

That’s fair but playing in L1 is a lot different to the Champs - I’m not convinced Kamara is ready for the step up yet.

Wasn’t for Oxford! 😉😉

[Feedthewolf 5,885]

I think Fassnacht's strengths are positional discipline and providing cover to the fullback, which can be important. He's also good at drifting into small pockets of space and linking the attacking play with simple passes. Not the most exciting of players, and rarely does anything particularly expansive, but a useful 'continuity' player. Similar to Lukas Rupp when he used to play in a more advanced position; solid and unspectacular. A good player to bring on to protect a lead, or to start a tough away match where we need more positional discipline.

Like most of them, though, he was very poor on Saturday.

Edited August 13 by Feedthewolf

[TheGunnShow 7,362]

1 minute ago, Feedthewolf said:

I think Fassnacht's strengths are positional discipline and providing cover to the fullback, which can be important. He's also good at drifting into small pockets of space and linking the attacking play with simple passes. Not the most exciting of players, and rarely does anything exciting, but a useful 'continuity' player. Similar to Lukas Rupp when he used to play in a more advanced position; solid and unspectacular. A good player to bring on to protect a lead, or to start a tough away match where we need more positional discipline.

Like most of them, though, he was very poor on Saturday.

Not to mention, Fassnacht is always good for ghosting in at the back stick for anything sent across. He basically is a taller, slower version of Rupp in many ways.

[jaberry2 768]

50 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

I think Fassnacht's strengths are positional discipline and providing cover to the fullback, which can be important. He's also good at drifting into small pockets of space and linking the attacking play with simple passes. Not the most exciting of players, and rarely does anything particularly expansive, but a useful 'continuity' player. Similar to Lukas Rupp when he used to play in a more advanced position; solid and unspectacular. A good player to bring on to protect a lead, or to start a tough away match where we need more positional discipline.

Like most of them, though, he was very poor on Saturday.

His body* language just makes him look devoid of confidence. Clearly competent in front of goal but for me doesn't have the attributes to play a winger

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[Feedthewolf 5,885]

Just now, jaberry2 said:

His bloody language just makes him look devoid of confidence. Clearly competent in front of goal but for me doesn't have the attributes to play a winger

Why don't you mind your bloody language? 😉

Under Farke, for example, we played with narrow 'wide attacking midfielders' rather than conventional touchline-hugging wingers. Fasi could do that pretty well, I reckon.

[TheGunnShow 7,362]

15 minutes ago, jaberry2 said:

His bloody language just makes him look devoid of confidence. Clearly competent in front of goal but for me doesn't have the attributes to play a winger

As a native-standard German speaker, that's pretty much what I think of Swiss German. Pain in the f*cking ****, that dialect.

[jaberry2 768]

31 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

As a native-standard German speaker, that's pretty much what I think of Swiss German. Pain in the f*cking ****, that dialect.

Sorry I meant body language lol

[Mason 47 1,907]

If he's not seen as good enough and there's a decent bid for him, I guess that's life. 

Though, I'd take a break from social media for a spell if so as the 'BUT THEY SAID THEY WOULD ONLY USE YOUTH PLAYERS' mob will be out in force 

[Barham Blitz 866]

8 hours ago, Robornio said:

I hope we have players lined up to come into the club. At this rate, we’ll have a smaller squad than the Villa team of 1980/81. All a bit frantic at present.

As I recall they did ok ...

[Robornio 131]

7 minutes ago, Barham Blitz said:

As I recall they did ok ...

They did… But they also had the miracle of zero injuries. When was the last time that happened to us, if ever? 

[Barham Blitz 866]

Just now, Robornio said:

They did… But they also had the miracle of zero injuries. When was the last time that happened to us, if ever? 

You may be taking that more seriously than intended, but yes, a fair point.

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10 hours ago, Branston Pickle said:

Far more than Kamara. And that’s the point.  Fassnacht wasn’t meant to play on Saturday and got the late call to replace Rowe.  It really doesn’t matter to me that tou don’t get it. 

 

What kind of an answer is that.... What does Faasnacht bring to the team?    He's had his chance, bought little in reality, isn't the kind of player you'd pay to watch, is ineffective.   

Kamara hasn't had a chance.   Pre-season isn't a chance.   Its fitness and trying things... the manager needs to try and get the best out of him, that hasn't happened yet but seems half the fans have written Kamara off already.   Strange!  

[Feedthewolf 5,885]

Only unsubstantiated Twitter gossip, but this account (75k followers) reporting a rumour that Celtic are also looking at Abu:

https://x.com/CelticGossip/status/1823272105510682973

[Robornio 131]

Just now, Barham Blitz said:

You may be taking that more seriously than intended, but yes, a fair point.

Sorry, wasn’t meant to sound patronising. I wish we had an indestructible first-team though. 😎

[Ulfotto 793]

Faasnacht scored 6 goals from midfield last season. It’s nothing to get massively excited about but a key difference between last season and the previous was goals from the goals from midfield and Faasnacht along with Rowe and Sainz played a massive role in that.

Kamara is a strange one though. Thorup has been brought in to bring through youngsters. Kamara is a player on the up with a great season behind him at Portsmouth. Playing in a system similar to what Thorup is trying to do. Surely it’s a easy one to give him a chance over Fassnacht.

If they don’t rate Kamara why didn’t they sell him to Pompey at the start of the summer.

[Branston Pickle 4,132]

51 minutes ago, ged in the onion bag said:

What kind of an answer is that.... What does Faasnacht bring to the team?    He's had his chance, bought little in reality, isn't the kind of player you'd pay to watch, is ineffective.   

Kamara hasn't had a chance.   Pre-season isn't a chance.   Its fitness and trying things... the manager needs to try and get the best out of him, that hasn't happened yet but seems half the fans have written Kamara off already.   Strange!  

I’ve not written anyone off - from what I’ve seen of him Kamara just doesn’t look ready for Champs yet.  You’re entitled to a different opinion, but clearly Fassnacht was considered a better option on Saturday so Hoff obviously agrees.

[Fen Canary 1,456]

11 hours ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

Is he not buying a house either? 

The housing crisis is getting worse, even footballers are stuck renting!

[JonnyJonnyRowe 955]

1 hour ago, Feedthewolf said:

Only unsubstantiated Twitter gossip, but this account (75k followers) reporting a rumour that Celtic are also looking at Abu:

https://x.com/CelticGossip/status/1823272105510682973

Lovely, can get twice his market value then 🤣

[JonnyJonnyRowe 955]

12 hours ago, sgncfc said:

In the last year of his contract, he either signs a new one or we get a couple of million for him. Didn't do enough to get a new one, presumably.

We have a one year option on top of that, so it isn't the case at all that we need to flog him this summer.

Personally I'd rather we triggered the year extension and sent him back out on loan for another season, nab a loan fee, in the hope that he'll look more ready next summer when we can release Fassnacht if he doesn't do enough to have his own one year option triggered.

That would make much more sense to me, and suggest a new culture of longer term thinking, but what do I know. 

[Carrow89 169]

"Scottish Premiership side Celtic are now in the race with Hull City to recruit Norwich City attacker Abu Kamara."

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/celtic-join-hull-city-in-race-for-norwich-city-abu-kamara/

[Ernie Wise 112]

12 hours ago, Monty13 said:

I think that’s more a reflection on how Kamara performed in pre-season.

In the St Pauli friendly Kamara played as alone striker, which is not his position. 
It seems as if some people are writing him off just as they did with Harry Kane after very few minutes on the field!!   (I am not comparing the 2 players’ abilities, just the principle.)

If we are looking at how players performed in preseason, how did Stacey justify his place in the team?

 

[Monty13 2,734]

2 minutes ago, Ernie Wise said:

In the St Pauli friendly Kamara played as alone striker, which is not his position. 
It seems as if some people are writing him off just as they did with Harry Kane after very few minutes on the field!!   (I am not comparing the 2 players’ abilities, just the principle.)

If we are looking at how players performed in preseason, how did Stacey justify his place in the team?

 

To be clear I’m in no way writing him off. I just think he didn’t do enough to suggest he’s ready to start over a much more experienced player.

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14 hours ago, MC_NCFC said:

Doing some digging on the Idah deal. Got wind that Abu Kamara is also off. Boss in from multiple clubs and has been pushed for sales by Norwich rather than the other way round. The belief is he’s not able to step up.

Again, to come across ITK you need to post this stuff BEFORE it's already posted 100 times on twitter

[wcorkcanary 4,762]

13 hours ago, S_81 said:

Too early to be calling Forson quality, or assuming Kamara couldn’t play a wing if Rowe goes. IMO it would be a very premature sale - and in the face of what Knapper and Thorup are meant to be doing, somewhat 

Not if they deem him not good enough. It's  rxactly what they should  be doing, making the tough calls. You can say Carlton Morris if you wish but he looked  woeful last night for Luton,  falling down at slightest  touch, hardly affected the game.  

[norwich canary 171]

14 hours ago, MC_NCFC said:

Doing some digging on the Idah deal. Got wind that Abu Kamara is also off. Boss in from multiple clubs and has been pushed for sales by Norwich rather than the other way round. The belief is he’s not able to step up.

I love a clue less ITK account 😂😂

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14 hours ago, Nuff Said said:

But he has failed to stand out when he has had minutes for us. Maybe League 1 is his level, maybe we think we have better players (or potential signings) in his position.

One old Barn Door may suit that role!!?

If he is being actively considered then may the Lord Almighty have mercy on us.

 

[chicken 3,081]

57 minutes ago, Ernie Wise said:

In the St Pauli friendly Kamara played as alone striker, which is not his position. 
It seems as if some people are writing him off just as they did with Harry Kane after very few minutes on the field!!   (I am not comparing the 2 players’ abilities, just the principle.)

If we are looking at how players performed in preseason, how did Stacey justify his place in the team?

 

That's not entirely true is it? Pretty sure when playing for the accademy sides he was played as a striker. It was only really whilst on loan at Pompey that he was deployed more as a wide attacking player.

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He looks so physically under where we need him to be, it looks like when we go up and play against the PL players.