official club news Norfolk Holdings to to enable majority control of club

[GMF 1,006]

1 hour ago, MrBunce said:

I also think it would have really tested what the club has messaged around budgeting for every eventuality.

Quite, and that’s what happens when you put too much faith in certain people….

[chicken 3,071]

12 hours ago, wcorkcanary said:

It's scant reward for their years of Stewardship of the club, you invested a few quid and truckload of entitlement and you got a free home ST , I don't see the problem, you don't see the reasons ( well claim not to)..  only shows you to be petty,  but we knew that.  

No, no, no corky, he's ordinary, like one of us. Nothing special about him at all...

 

 

 

 

 

... entitled you say?

[GMF 1,006]

2 minutes ago, essex canary said:

Covid aside that is why we are where we are.

It was completely disingenuous to blame everything on Covid and the £30m loss in revenues arising there from. It was unforeseen at the time, obviously, but did that excuse what happened subsequently in the summer of 2021?

Unforeseen events, like Covid, should have been reflected in the subsequent, revised budget for 2021-22, a season in the Premier League, with its subsequent record revenues.

The gamble failed, and meant the need for a significant working capital injection following relegation. That was, undoubtedly, the primary driver behind MF’s subsequent decision. Any outside rhetoric about his sale price completely ignores the reality of the situation.

[Big Vince 420]

16 minutes ago, GMF said:

Quite, and that’s what happens when you put too much faith in certain people….

It was always their approach from day one that they were not going to be running the club day to day and would leave that to others. This was their undoing in the end, just that it took 28 years and some other close shaves along the way, which they survived.

[PurpleCanary 6,363]

23 hours ago, Big Vince said:

Told you the Delaware Capitalists were going to sell.

 

Yes, congratulations are really in order, Big Vince. No other poster here has ever said Attanasio would eventually sell what he has bought. Not one. This genius revelation is yours and yours alone. In decades to come there will be statues of you, celebrating this unique insight. Young Canaries will be told the story in awed tones, as if of a myth. Fast-food outlets at the ground selling inedible muck at extortionate prices will be named in your honour.

Edited October 9 by PurpleCanary

[GMF 1,006]

10 hours ago, Big Vince said:

It was always their approach from day one that they were not going to be running the club day to day and would leave that to others. This was their undoing in the end, just that it took 28 years and some other close shaves along the way, which they survived.

As a point of principle, I’ve never had an issue with them not being involved with the day-to-day running of the Club.

However, they are the principal non-executive directors of the Club and therefore have primary responsibility for the appointment of other non-executive directors, who are appropriately qualified people and capable of challenging any proposals, or recommendations put forward by the executive team. I will leave it to others to decide for themselves if that has always been the case.

[essex canary 610]

11 hours ago, chicken said:

No, no, no corky, he's ordinary, like one of us. Nothing special about him at all...

 

 

 

 

 

... entitled you say?

You changed your mind quite quickly there. Typical chicken tie themselves in knots stuff.

[wcorkcanary 4,748]

2 hours ago, essex canary said:

You changed your mind quite quickly there. Typical chicken tie themselves in knots stuff.

Jaysus, any form of humour is lost on you , except your own.  Just another indication  of how un self aware you are.  

[essex canary 610]

21 hours ago, GMF said:

It was completely disingenuous to blame everything on Covid and the £30m loss in revenues arising there from. It was unforeseen at the time, obviously, but did that excuse what happened subsequently in the summer of 2021?

Unforeseen events, like Covid, should have been reflected in the subsequent, revised budget for 2021-22, a season in the Premier League, with its subsequent record revenues.

The gamble failed, and meant the need for a significant working capital injection following relegation. That was, undoubtedly, the primary driver behind MF’s subsequent decision. Any outside rhetoric about his sale price completely ignores the reality of the situation.

Nothing to disagree with there. Disingenuity has been something of a theme on numerous occasions with the Club cherry picking aspects of the truth or exaggerating it whilst ignoring other aspects that it finds less convenient.

[nutty nigel 7,890]

54 minutes ago, essex canary said:

Nothing to disagree with there. Disingenuity has been something of a theme on numerous occasions with the Club cherry picking aspects of the truth or exaggerating it whilst ignoring other aspects that it finds less convenient.

I think it’s wonderful that we have you keyboard kops on the case…

 

[......and Smith must score. 1,586]

13 hours ago, essex canary said:

……. Disingenuity has been something of a theme on numerous occasions with the Club cherry picking aspects of the truth or exaggerating it whilst ignoring other aspects that it finds less convenient.

This seems uncannily like the modus operandi of an AD who posts on here.

Edited October 10 by ......and Smith must score.

[chicken 3,071]

On 08/10/2024 at 21:45, GMF said:

It was completely disingenuous to blame everything on Covid and the £30m loss in revenues arising there from. It was unforeseen at the time, obviously, but did that excuse what happened subsequently in the summer of 2021?

Unforeseen events, like Covid, should have been reflected in the subsequent, revised budget for 2021-22, a season in the Premier League, with its subsequent record revenues.

The gamble failed, and meant the need for a significant working capital injection following relegation. That was, undoubtedly, the primary driver behind MF’s subsequent decision. Any outside rhetoric about his sale price completely ignores the reality of the situation.

That's fair. Though I do think £30m is/was a huge amount to us then. Bearing in mind that it not only prevented spending on the team but also meant sales had to happen.

It doesn't excuse the prem season after, but it would have changed the transfer landscape that summer. A few more quality editions in the champ would have meant less need to go for more that summer. Savings that may have helped land Ajer etc, push us over the line of quality vs quantity.

We'll never know though. 

[essex canary 610]

4 hours ago, chicken said:

That's fair. Though I do think £30m is/was a huge amount to us then. Bearing in mind that it not only prevented spending on the team but also meant sales had to happen.

It doesn't excuse the prem season after, but it would have changed the transfer landscape that summer. A few more quality editions in the champ would have meant less need to go for more that summer. Savings that may have helped land Ajer etc, push us over the line of quality vs quantity.

We'll never know though. 

Except any examination of the Accounts shows that £20 million is nearer to the truth.

[essex canary 610]

On 08/10/2024 at 21:45, GMF said:

It was completely disingenuous to blame everything on Covid and the £30m loss in revenues arising there from. It was unforeseen at the time, obviously, but did that excuse what happened subsequently in the summer of 2021?

Unforeseen events, like Covid, should have been reflected in the subsequent, revised budget for 2021-22, a season in the Premier League, with its subsequent record revenues.

The gamble failed, and meant the need for a significant working capital injection following relegation. That was, undoubtedly, the primary driver behind MF’s subsequent decision. Any outside rhetoric about his sale price completely ignores the reality of the situation.

So effectively MF departed because S&J and the Webbers had blown a hole in it.

On that basis everyone else should be entitled to exit on the same terms and conditions plus 11% interest for the last 2 years.

MA could grant a loan to S&J to enable them to settle. At 11% interest compounded monthly. Maybe Neil Doncaster has recommended it?

[GMF 1,006]

2 hours ago, essex canary said:

Maybe Neil Doncaster has recommended it?

Quite why anyone would want to suggest that taking advice from ND is the way to go, when his last act in charge of NCFC was overseeing relegation to League One, beggars belief. 

[chicken 3,071]

3 minutes ago, GMF said:

Quite why anyone would want to suggest that taking advice from ND is the way to go, when his last act in charge of NCFC was overseeing relegation to League One, beggars belief. 

...because it'd give one or two folks years of disaster to pick through looking for sticks to wave...

[essex canary 610]

1 hour ago, GMF said:

Quite why anyone would want to suggest that taking advice from ND is the way to go, when his last act in charge of NCFC was overseeing relegation to League One, beggars belief. 

The idea that Neil Doncaster could pick football managers is as out of its tree as the idea that the current ED can head up Fan Engagement. Perhaps Neil Doncaster's appearance as Delia's guest last Saturday means she has woken up to the latter?

[GMF 1,006]

10 minutes ago, essex canary said:

is as out of its tree as the idea that the current ED can head up Fan Engagement.

I’ll pass on your kind regards next time I see her… 🥴

[essex canary 610]

29 minutes ago, GMF said:

I’ll pass on your kind regards next time I see her… 🥴

Please do. That said my opportunity to ask how Jake Humphrey has become the de-facto Supporters Panel is less than 5 weeks away.

[wcorkcanary 4,748]

14 hours ago, essex canary said:

Nothing to disagree with there. Disingenuity has been something of a theme on numerous occasions with the Club cherry picking aspects of the truth or exaggerating it whilst ignoring other aspects that it finds less convenient.

Irony meters explode  in multiple locations as Ethics describes himself while pointing at other people.  

[wcorkcanary 4,748]

4 hours ago, essex canary said:

So effectively MF departed because S&J and the Webbers had blown a hole in it.

On that basis everyone else should be entitled to exit on the same terms and conditions plus 11% interest for the last 2 years.

MA could grant a loan to S&J to enable them to settle. At 11% interest compounded monthly. Maybe Neil Doncaster has recommended it?

Life isn't fair Kev, maybe your mammy never explained that properly to you. Or did you always get your own way by throwing tantrums? 

[essex canary 610]

18 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Life isn't fair Kev, maybe your mammy never explained that properly to you. Or did you always get your own way by throwing tantrums? 

My mum had Boudicca's DNA.

[GMF 1,006]

51 minutes ago, essex canary said:

Please do. That said my opportunity to ask how Jake Humphrey has become the de-facto Supporters Panel is less than 5 weeks away.

It wouldn’t be the most ridiculous question you’ve asked at an AGM, so fill your boots. 

[wcorkcanary 4,748]

1 hour ago, essex canary said:

My mum had Boudicca's DNA.

Aaah, that's where your woman issues come from. First believable thing you've said for quite a while Kev. It explains a lot,  but how come she has that DNA , and you have the DNA of Gollum the Moneygrabber. Are you adopted? Was Gollum your milkman? 

[essex canary 610]

9 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Aaah, that's where your woman issues come from. First believable thing you've said for quite a while Kev. It explains a lot,  but how come she has that DNA , and you have the DNA of Gollum the Moneygrabber. Are you adopted? Was Gollum your milkman? 

My mum had no time for those who claimed butter wouldn't melt only to do exactly that.

[wcorkcanary 4,748]

8 minutes ago, essex canary said:

My mum had no time for those who claimed butter wouldn't melt only to do exactly that.

So , another reason for your woman issues then . Sounds like she had you sussed early doors. You are exposing all your frailties  Kev, it's OK,  you'll  end up crying, that's OK too, because in order to move on , you must deal with your past, not Zoes, not Delias, or anyone else's, take responsibility,  then your mam would be proud of you as your current behaviour would shame even Maggie Thatcher, who also claimed Boudicca  DNA.  

Your mum was trying to tell you something but you ignored her,  silly kev,  look what a mess you've got yerself into.  Your only possible avenue for redemption  now is reflection not deflection, guess what? Your **** smells too. 

Edited October 10 by wcorkcanary

[essex canary 610]

14 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

So , another reason for your woman issues then . Sounds like she had you sussed early doors. You are exposing all your frailties  Kev, it's OK,  you'll  end up crying, that's OK too, because in order to move on , you must deal with your past, not Zoes, not Delias, or anyone else's, take responsibility,  then your mam would be proud of you as your current behaviour would shame even Maggie Thatcher, who also claimed Boudicca  DNA.  

Your mum was trying to tell you something but you ignored her,  silly kev,  look what a mess you've got yerself into.  Your only possible avenue for redemption  now is reflection not deflection, guess what? Your **** smells too. 

As @norwich canary has told you many times you are not one of us.

[essex canary 610]

1 hour ago, GMF said:

It wouldn’t be the most ridiculous question you’ve asked at an AGM, so fill your boots. 

Perhaps I will also ask in 2 weeks time why an independent advisor such as Neil Doncaster wasn't engaged for purpose.

If you have a line in you could give advance notice on both questions as they never seem to engage the professionalism of even considering the written AGM questions in advance.

[Big Vince 420]

17 hours ago, essex canary said:

Nothing to disagree with there. Disingenuity has been something of a theme on numerous occasions with the Club cherry picking aspects of the truth or exaggerating it whilst ignoring other aspects that it finds less convenient.

Along with outright deceit. Delia sits right up there with Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot as one of the worst people ever.

[TheGunnShow 7,358]

6 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Along with outright deceit. Delia sits right up there with Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot as one of the worst people ever.

Missed Mother Teresa out of that list.