Grant Hanley

[Bolland 5]

Had quite a shocker today and doesn’t look the same player since his injury comeback. As such he’s rightly taken some real stick. 
He has though played 178 games for City, and has acquitted himself well during many of those, often very well.  Certainly leaves it all on the pitch. 
It looks like his time is could well be have to  move on. He’s been a great servant and helped bring Omobanideli through. 
Just hope if JHT leaves him in next week that he’s not booed.  He deserves better. 

[In my blood 107]

Thank you Mrs Hanley. 

[hogesar 10,766]

I'm not sure he deserves much stick at all.

He gives his all, all the time. He might not be good enough but the manager picked him.

[Worthy Nigelton 1,306]

He deserves no stick. He's been a decent player generally. Lacking at PL level but so were many others. 

[mannings bandy legs 439]

2 minutes ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

He deserves no stick. He's been a decent player generally. Lacking at PL level but so were many others. 

Have any of you played football at any level? He is devoid of any talent,other than falling when under pressure.There is no reaction when conceding,no encouragement to team-mates.Seriously,the worst captain I have seen here in all my fifty five years of watching. Today,falls  under the slightest touch,looks at ref,then nothing! Sorry,i'm of an era of the Duncan Forbes of this world. I know times have changed,but Hanley's time is done.

 

[Corbs1 167]

2 minutes ago, mannings bandy legs said:

Have any of you played football at any level?

 

What that got to do with anything? I watched Duncan for years and worked for him when he was Head Scout. Hanley only recently did ok with Scotland in the Euros. If it’s time for youth fair enough, but F off you scapegoating mob, he’s done well for us. 

[yellowrider120 917]

Just now, mannings bandy legs said:

Have any of you played football at any level? He is devoid of any talent,other than falling when under pressure.There is no reaction when conceding,no encouragement to team-mates.Seriously,the worst captain I have seen here in all my fifty five years of watching. Today,falls  under the slightest touch,looks at ref,then nothing! Sorry,i'm of an era of the Duncan Forbes of this world. I know times have changed,but Hanley's time is done.

 

Agree entirely. Hanley has cheated for years often throwing himself to the ground when not even touched. Last season at Boro, he got injured when the opponent landed on him whilst trying to jump over him as Hanley dived right in front of him. At last refs are getting wise to him and today the ref quite rightly let play go on and he / we were punished. His antics at the back of the dug out after being withdrawn were also unforgiveable. As captain that was 100% out of order.  

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,620]

21 minutes ago, hogesar said:

I'm not sure he deserves much stick at all.

He gives his all, all the time. He might not be good enough but the manager picked him.

Yeah, this. 

Injury and father time have ruined him, not a lack of effort or attitude.

At least one out of Hanley and Duffy need to be dropped. Ideally we'd find a club stupid enough to take over the final two years Duffy's contract and Hanley can just hang around as a backup to help mentor Hills, Cordoba and a new signing...

[mannings bandy legs 439]

6 minutes ago, Corbs1 said:

What that got to do with anything? I watched Duncan for years and worked for him when he was Head Scout. Hanley only recently did ok with Scotland in the Euros. If it’s time for youth fair enough, but F off you scapegoating mob, he’s done well for us. 

Scotland in the euros. Get real. So you really believe that Hanley is worthy of a starting place?

[S_81 1,102]

Never recovered from his injury. Always error prone but not as consistently as now. He shouldn’t be a starter. That’s the fault of the club for retaining him and the manager for playing him. 

[Corbs1 167]

12 minutes ago, mannings bandy legs said:

Scotland in the euros. Get real. So you really believe that Hanley is worthy of a starting place?

Time for a change I think but I’m not into abuse by the usual suspects. 

[Ulfotto 800]

It was a big call to substitute the club captain after an hour of the first game of the season regardless of who the captain is.

[mannings bandy legs 439]

2 minutes ago, Corbs1 said:

Time for a change I think but I’m not into abuse by the usual suspects. 

Nobody is abusing anybody! Its all about opinions and individual views.

[CardiffCanary 163]

I think time is up 

it happens to all players but I think it’s time for someone else to get a prolonged run in the team.

who gets the armband then ?

[Canary Wundaboy 1,423]

Not looked the same since his injury. Always had a mistake in him but feels like ref today was wise to his antics and without his previous pace he can’t recover ground quickly enough. Afraid it’s time to move him on or at least replace him in the starting line up.

[ron obvious 1,711]

As others have pointed out, it's hardly Hanley's fault that he's picked by the manager.

The problem is that Thorup keeps picking him. That, to me at any rate, is extremely concerning.

[Big Vince 423]

If you keep selling all your best players then the ones left are going to stand out for being no good.

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

54 minutes ago, Corbs1 said:

Hanley only recently did ok with Scotland in the Euros. 

He did???

[Capt. Pants 5,013]

Gibson 31, Hanley 32, Duffy 32, Batth 33; with nobody otherthan early 20s to step up. Can't help thinking we messed up here and are now crossing fingers that untried youngsters can be trusted, or Cordoba hits the ground running. Knapper needs to do better than Webber did on succession planning in a key position.

 

 

 

[S_81 1,102]

5 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Gibson 31, Hanley 32, Duffy 32, Batth 33; with nobody otherthan early 20s to step up. Can't help thinking we messed up here and are now crossing fingers that untried youngsters can be trusted, or Cordoba hits the ground running. Knapper needs to do better than Webber did on succession planning in a key position.

 

 

 

Hoping Cordoba and Doyle can play centrally together. Hills and Duffy as back up. 

[AJ 1,359]

8 minutes ago, S_81 said:

Hoping Cordoba and Doyle can play centrally together. Hills and Duffy as back up. 

Doesn't sound like the worst idea, Doyle looked pretty decent today on the left but supposedly CB is his true position

[The Real Buh 3,765]

Hanley and Duffy

The cruise ship and the drinks package

[JonnyJonnyRowe 974]

1 hour ago, S_81 said:

Never recovered from his injury

Same thing happened to Timm Klose.

[Mason 47 1,925]

I think the references to Hanley having always been crap are very unfair. He's been an excellent stopper who developed surprisingly well to the Farke passing game. Could probably have left a few years back when his stock was highest for a bit of a payday.

I said he didn't look right when he first came back, and was taken out of the firing line by Wagner in short order. For 'needs to regain his explosiveness' I read that he's lost his mechanical confidence, and nothing I've seen since suggests otherwise to me. There's no shame in it, he's a big lad and those injuries are just horrible- Klose, Zimbo and Gibson all never came back fully from their respective big injuries.

He looked in bits when he was being taken off and I suggest looked like a man feeling the cold breath of time on the back of his neck. I'd not be using him apart from a tense game shut-out option in an emergency from now on.

[Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,462]

1 hour ago, Ulfotto said:

It was a big call to substitute the club captain after an hour of the first game of the season regardless of who the captain is.

Indeed.

His reaction was not as professional as it could have been either.

I wonder what captainly advice he would have given quietly in the ear of another in the same circumstances?

Parma 

[Worthy Nigelton 1,306]

1 hour ago, mannings bandy legs said:

Have any of you played football at any level? He is devoid of any talent,other than falling when under pressure.There is no reaction when conceding,no encouragement to team-mates.Seriously,the worst captain I have seen here in all my fifty five years of watching. Today,falls  under the slightest touch,looks at ref,then nothing! Sorry,i'm of an era of the Duncan Forbes of this world. I know times have changed,but Hanley's time is done.

 

A worse captain than Neil Emblem? He's won this league three times. Give it a rest with this willy-measuring 'what level have you played at' nonsense. Some of the best players are crap managers and vice-versa.

He was poor today, and he's never been PL level, but he's been a good centre half at this level hence the title wins. Whether he still is or not remains to be seen.

[Ulfotto 800]

1 minute ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

Indeed.

His reaction was not as professional as it could have been either.

I wonder what captainly advice he would have given quietly in the ear of another in the same circumstances?

Parma 

Quite, it is a far cry from Daniel Farke man management on the first day of the season when instead of lambasting Nelson Olivera for taking off his shirt showing it to Farke. Farke simple said in the presser after the match it’s the name on the front of the shirt not the name on the back.

Back to Hanley it would have probably been best to keep him on the pitch and publicly back him afterwards. I’m no man management expert but I would if I was about to attempt to lead an organisation through a period of large change I would want to keep the most influential player in the dressing room on side rather than deliberately alienating for little or no gain.

[Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,462]

2 minutes ago, Ulfotto said:

Quite, it is a far cry from Daniel Farke man management on the first day of the season when instead of lambasting Nelson Olivera for taking off his shirt showing it to Farke. Farke simple said in the presser after the match it’s the name on the front of the shirt not the name on the back.

Back to Hanley it would have probably been best to keep him on the pitch and publicly back him afterwards. I’m no man management expert but I would if I was about to attempt to lead an organisation through a period of large change I would want to keep the most influential player in the dressing room on side rather than deliberately alienating for little or no gain.

Typically yes, though Hanley was very poor today. 

He looks entirely unsuitable to what Thorup wants to do I think. 

I was surprised at how surprised Hanley was to get pulled…

Pace would have been his saving grace - we lack it at the back - though he appears to have lost some of both his straight line speed and his early acceleration. 
 

He also failed conspicuously to get his customary soft foul for the goal. This was something of a mini-weapon for him. 
 

Without those elements, I’m afraid he will struggle. 

Parma 

 

Edited August 10 by Parma Ham's gone mouldy

[Unthink road 158]

11 minutes ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

Indeed.

His reaction was not as professional as it could have been either.

I wonder what captainly advice he would have given quietly in the ear of another in the same circumstances?

Parma 

Fustration over the performance. He was a very capable Championship centre back, although he is terrible when isolated one on one, generally in wide areas. Maybe this system expects too much from him. 

[Capt. Pants 5,013]

31 minutes ago, S_81 said:

Hoping Cordoba and Doyle can play centrally together. Hills and Duffy as back up. 

Having 2 left footed CBs would be interesting but then we had 2 right footed ones today, so no difference in theory.

Doyle looks like a CB playing at LB, god he's slower than Hanley. Hills looked impressive pre season, but (probably) needs to be brought in carefully, but he's way ahead of Warner and Tomkinson in my view. It looks like Sorensen may well partner Duffy, or Hanley whilst Cordoba can get fit and then we'll see who's the worst. 

I wouldn't write off Grant just yet but it has to be him or Duffy but not both. I hope it's Grant as I'm not a fan of drink drivers.