Leeds bid for Rowe. According to John Percy

[wcorkcanary 4,765]

6 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

We have a 1 year option so he can't sign anything. £7m for Rowe and there will be riots at Carra and Knapper will be hated.

Yes,  if the last protests  are anything to go by, then Brentford Nylons are in for a field day of sales. Shares in indelible markers are rising as I type. Norfolk Constabulary are on standby and Tillo  has dusted off his riot shield and been practicing  the ' Billy Bragg armlock ' on  'er indoors'. 

Anarchy at the doors , revolution  is just around the corner  boys , all you have to do is organise , mobilise and prioritise  your goals.  Easy. 

[Nuff Said 5,937]

38 minutes ago, canarycop said:

If we lose Rowe and Sarge on top of Sara we are well and truly screwed. Could see League 1 next season. 

I too await the input of MA. Surely he hasn't come in to see our crown jewels all be sold off without putting some more money in. 

 

Interesting times ahead

I thinking of starting to record all the predictions of relegation (again), will be amusing to have something to look back at at the end of the season.

[......and Smith must score. 1,587]

2 hours ago, TheGunnShow said:

Well, £7m can **** off. Young, talented, English, excellent season in this league last time out - that's eight figures as a bare minimum in this market.

I don't think we'll be looking for nine 😉

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

41 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

If we need 7/10 million that badly and sell Rowe the club is in a worse Position than many thought

Any club that wants to get promoted to PL does not sell Rowe for that sort of money unless they are Skint 

Rather we sell Idah for £4 or 5m..and McLean for a couple

[Mello Yello 2,555]

Has Jo Jo gone yet?.....

[Indy 3,471]

3 minutes ago, Soldier on said:

 

Be he can’t once again club have a +1 year option in their favour.

Yes as I’ve answered, wasn’t aware of the extension!

[Mello Yello 2,555]

Season kicks off in 5 days....and after a most successful pre-season we should hit the ground grunting....

 

[Nuff Said 5,937]

43 minutes ago, CANARYKING said:

45 minutes ago, CANARYKING said:

£10m and he’ll go, seriously thinking of chucking my ST in.Where’s all the Premiership, Parachute and player sales money gone ?

This will be the final straw for a lot of fans

Do you have any basis for what you post in, you know, reality? Or do you just need to post something for yourself to react to?

[TheGunnShow 7,363]

2 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

Season kicks off in 5 days....and after a most successful pre-season we should hit the ground grunting....

 

Blood and thunder or thud and blunder - you decide!

[Badger 2,745]

2 hours ago, Channon’s Windmill said:

There was a time we did it to them, Howson and Johnson, how times have changed.

Yes, we abandoned financial prudence, went for it  and got ourselves heavily in debt. (As Leeds had done previously, but on an even bigger scale).

[Mello Yello 2,555]

3 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

Blood and thunder or thud and blunder - you decide!

Let's get ready to rumble or stumble....

[cambridgeshire canary 7,781]

12 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Yes,  if the last protests  are anything to go by, then Brentford Nylons are in for a field day of sales. Shares in indelible markers are rising as I type. Norfolk Constabulary are on standby and Tillo  has dusted off his riot shield and been practicing  the ' Billy Bragg armlock ' on  'er indoors'. 

Anarchy at the doors , revolution  is just around the corner  boys , all you have to do is organise , mobilise and prioritise  your goals.  Easy. 

I hear the mild grumbling and tutting has already begun 

[shefcanary 2,943]

A few thoughts, randomly laid out, as I am still reeling from this news:

Does Percy's article pre-date the sale of Sara - it's behind a paywall so haven't seen when this supposed "bid" was made. If it was before Sara's sale, sure they would have been testing our resolve and now should be told to politely FO and come back with a more acceptable offer, IF we in the end want to sell. If it is after the Sara sale, then hopefully they have had a very angry FO and that's the end of the matter! Overall though, Leeds can FO, I would also be more content if it was another club being discussed here.

If the club are entertaining this bid, then I can only think that there are irons elsewhere that money is needed to bring in new players. A post above talked about Rowe being a chaos player, which was fine under Wagner, but doesn't seem so clear cut as being what Hoff T wants. If Rowe is sold and is not replaced then we need to get angry, because from my analysis of the accounts this means that the club is still leaking cash in ways that don't make much sense (i.e. away from the playing squad) and his sale is to fill an even bigger financial hole than it should be.

When last season ended the general talk was an expectation of two, or even all three, of our crown jewels (Sara, Sarge and Rowe) being sold. The expectation was Sara would be one, the hope was we wouldn't sell any more, but if we did Rowe might be least missed. 

I fear the club is suffering from poor communication again. The potential of a young homegrown player being sold before he has really established himself, similar to the Omo sale last year, does not reflect the statements coming out of Carrow Road about investing in youth. I can see if Hoff T doesn't see a player like Rowe being a part of his long term plan for possession based, high press football, but it is not going to be received well.

I still think Rowe should be coached into being a centre forward really - his strike rate is phenomenal, his stature and heading ability don't smack of him being a wide player for much longer. With Sarge's injury issue, I'd rather see Idah go and Rowe worked on in that central role.

Celtic's £4m bid for Idah seems realistic, take it if we need cash that desperately, £7m for Rowe is daylight robbery. So are we being set up for a sale of Idah at a lower price, and hey presto, we retain Rowe. A silly strategy if that is what the club are playing.

Edited August 5 by shefcanary

[Badger 2,745]

54 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

If we need 7/10 million that badly and sell Rowe the club is in a worse Position than many thought

Any club that wants to get promoted to PL does not sell Rowe for that sort of money unless they are Skint 

Well we were £83 million in debt at the end of the 2023 season + I presume we lost money last year?

[Bristol Canary 150]

Leicester & Rennes look like they might be agreeing a total £21m deal for Asprilla with Watford. I'd say he is slightly younger, has greater potential probably, much better availability and a longer contract so would expect less for Rowe. I think £15m gets it done, even it is £12m+3m. 

So do Leeds spend that? I doubt it. The record buy for a Championship team according to transfermarkt is £15m Wolves paid for Neves. 

[Badger 2,745]

51 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

MIGHT be  lopsided ownership MA might have said instead of selling crown jewels let's put money in delia said i can not afford to so why should MA ? or MA is not such a shining Knight as we thought or Rowe Sarge and Sara have said we want out 

MA put money in as loans, which are repayable, so it would not make any difference to him. 

[shefcanary 2,943]

2 minutes ago, Badger said:

Well we were £83 million in debt at the end of the 2023 season + I presume we lost money last year?

Hi Badger, if we did lose money last year then yes we will need money. But the FD clearly stated they had set a break-even budget for last year so if that was missed then something is awry in the corridors of Carrow Road given the lack of money outflows for players. Let's see the accounts, but if the club made a loss again last year, then heads should roll given the public statements.

[Badger 2,745]

35 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

We have a 1 year option so he can't sign anything. £7m for Rowe and there will be riots at Carra and Knapper will be hated.

Good idea. We could get another new Sporting Director, Manager, owner etc! We should aim to have 2 or 3 every season! 🤦‍♂️

[Badger 2,745]

35 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

Or perhaps fans should make a stand and  let our selfish owners know they need to accelerate their departure and let MA take over so we can compete. 

Care to explain the "reasoning" behind this?

[Badger 2,745]

15 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

A few thoughts, randomly laid out, as I am still reeling from this news:

Does Percy's article pre-date the sale of Sara - it's behind a paywall so haven't seen when this supposed "bid" was made. If it was before Sara's sale, sure they would have been testing our resolve and now should be told to politely FO and come back with a more acceptable offer, IF we in the end want to sell. If it is after the Sara sale, then hopefully they have had a very angry FO and that's the end of the matter! Overall though, Leeds can FO, I would also be more content if it was another club being discussed here.

If the club are entertaining this bid, then I can only think that there are irons elsewhere that money is needed to bring in new players. A post above talked about Rowe being a chaos player, which was fine under Wagner, but doesn't seem so clear cut as being what Hoff T wants. If Rowe is sold and is not replaced then we need to get angry, because from my analysis of the accounts this means that the club is still leaking cash in ways that don't make much sense (i.e. away from the playing squad) and his sale is to fill an even bigger financial hole than it should be.

When last season ended the general talk was an expectation of two, or even all three, of our crown jewels (Sara, Sarge and Rowe) being sold. The expectation was Sara would be one, the hope was we wouldn't sell any more, but if we did Rowe might be least missed. 

I fear the club is suffering from poor communication again. The potential of a young homegrown player being sold before he has really established himself, similar to the Omo sale last year, does not reflect the statements coming out of Carrow Road about investing in youth. I can see if Hoff T doesn't see a player like Rowe being a part of his long term plan for possession based, high press football, but it is not going to be received well.

I still think Rowe should be coached into being a centre forward really - his strike rate is phenomenal, his stature and heading ability don't smack of him being a wide player for much longer. With Sarge's injury issue, I'd rather see Idah go and Rowe worked on in that central role.

Celtic's £4m bid for Idah seems realistic, take it if we need cash that desperately, £7m for Rowe is daylight robbery. So are we being set up for a sale of Idah at a lower price, and hey presto, we retain Rowe. A silly strategy if that is what the club are playing.

The article was at 8.50 this morning.

[Up and Away 91]

44 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

Or perhaps fans should make a stand and  let our selfish owners know they need to accelerate their departure and let MA take over so we can compete. 

My concern with MA, is that he has relatively little financial skin in the game. He has paid out £8m for a 40% share holding. He has lent the club additional monies (Pref shares and loans), on all of which he is earning interest (5-7% from memory) and all of which are repayable.

Is there any indication MA is going to put in, say £100m over the next four years, to allow the club to compete?

 

[Yellowhammer 95]

With Sara and Rowe gone hardly worth watching this season depressing that yet again our star men are moving on to be replaced with second rate players , but this has happened for years 

[Big Vince 422]

33 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

Season kicks off in 5 days....and after a most successful pre-season we should hit the ground grunting....

 

They way Throwup likes his players to pass backwards and run backwards, we are going to be beaten easily by a L1 outfit.

[TheGoogler 604]

1 minute ago, Yellowhammer said:

With Sara and Rowe gone hardly worth watching this season depressing that yet again our star men are moving on to be replaced with second rate players , but this has happened for years 

Bye then. 

[Indy 3,471]

4 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

They way Throwup likes his players to pass backwards and run backwards, we are going to be beaten easily by a L1 outfit.

We were last season!  A league 1 side put 6 past us in Plymouth.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

30 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

A few thoughts, randomly laid out, as I am still reeling from this news:

Does Percy's article pre-date the sale of Sara - it's behind a paywall so haven't seen when this supposed "bid" was made. If it was before Sara's sale, sure they would have been testing our resolve and now should be told to politely FO and come back with a more acceptable offer, IF we in the end want to sell. If it is after the Sara sale, then hopefully they have had a very angry FO and that's the end of the matter! Overall though, Leeds can FO, I would also be more content if it was another club being discussed here.

If the club are entertaining this bid, then I can only think that there are irons elsewhere that money is needed to bring in new players. A post above talked about Rowe being a chaos player, which was fine under Wagner, but doesn't seem so clear cut as being what Hoff T wants. If Rowe is sold and is not replaced then we need to get angry, because from my analysis of the accounts this means that the club is still leaking cash in ways that don't make much sense (i.e. away from the playing squad) and his sale is to fill an even bigger financial hole than it should be.

When last season ended the general talk was an expectation of two, or even all three, of our crown jewels (Sara, Sarge and Rowe) being sold. The expectation was Sara would be one, the hope was we wouldn't sell any more, but if we did Rowe might be least missed. 

I fear the club is suffering from poor communication again. The potential of a young homegrown player being sold before he has really established himself, similar to the Omo sale last year, does not reflect the statements coming out of Carrow Road about investing in youth. I can see if Hoff T doesn't see a player like Rowe being a part of his long term plan for possession based, high press football, but it is not going to be received well.

I still think Rowe should be coached into being a centre forward really - his strike rate is phenomenal, his stature and heading ability don't smack of him being a wide player for much longer. With Sarge's injury issue, I'd rather see Idah go and Rowe worked on in that central role.

Celtic's £4m bid for Idah seems realistic, take it if we need cash that desperately, £7m for Rowe is daylight robbery. So are we being set up for a sale of Idah at a lower price, and hey presto, we retain Rowe. A silly strategy if that is what the club are playing.

Have you 'got the balls' ...to trust the club's strategy?

I think that was the question you aimed at me at the weekend?

Sounds like you're wavering and questioning it...just as I did

[shefcanary 2,943]

15 minutes ago, Badger said:

The article was at 8.50 this morning.

Posted then, but Journo's always have a stack of articles ready to go, which don't always get "published" when finished but when their "editor" decides is the time to release them onto the world. I just wondered if the article itself gave a clue over the timing of the bid.

[shefcanary 2,943]

2 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

Have you 'got the balls' ...to trust the club's strategy?

I think that was the question you aimed at me at the weekend?

Sounds like you're wavering and questioning it...just as I did

Good call.

Well, still trying to figure it out and making sense of the strategy behind entertaining such a bid. If it is followed up with a number of incomings fine. If not, then yes, I would question everything coming out of the club and would be back on my Governance hobby horse again.

[Old Shuck 291]

Webber always used to make a big song and dance about how, if we sold players, it was on our terms and the price we wanted.

Doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

The club won't be able to spin £7 million, even £10 million into anything good. Except, perhaps, a clause that says if Rowe won the CL with Leeds would get an extra £13 million they'd they'd then say "...up to £20 million" because of that.

£7 million is laughable. 

[Macey 13]

Why are some people pant wetting 😂

Of course the club will not accept this, and have most likely already told Leeds where to kindly **** off to. Rowe is worth as much as Sara, maybe more given he is English, with tons of potential and having an already good break out season given the injury, you can easily say he is worth around 20m in my opinion. 

If the club were to even entertain this offer in any shape or form, or negotiate a deal with a league rival I'd be absolutely shocked. 

Edited August 5 by Macey