match thread Semi official Lappinitup match thread Canaries V Der Club

[Dean Coneys boots 1,531]

I say again. Last season we had a solid xI but not much else. Now we have a solid 7 or 8 and the defence - which has needed a major overhaul for 3 years- still requires one. We also STILL NEED A CDM

[hogesar 10,713]

43 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

That was not good. It was not even not good in a half-promising way.

Look Purple, i have always said and maintained, do not read much if anything from pre season.

However, I about to throw myself into the river wensum.

[Branston Pickle 4,131]

11 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

I say again. Last season we had a solid xI but not much else. Now we have a solid 7 or 8 and the defence - which has needed a major overhaul for 3 years- still requires one. We also STILL NEED A CDM

3 years?  And the rest!!

[A K Narey 235]

After all these years we have still not replaced Tettey! 😟

[Midlands Yellow 4,682]

Missed the match driving back from Leeds. Did we play well? 

[Wibble 153]

5 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

Missed the match driving back from Leeds. Did we play well? 

Brilliant, nothing to worry about, p1ss the league

[cambridgeshire canary 7,778]

19 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

Missed the match driving back from Leeds. Did we play well? 

Played well for about 15 minutes. Maybe 20 at a push

[Midlands Yellow 4,682]

14 minutes ago, Wibble said:

Brilliant, nothing to worry about, p1ss the league

Excellent news. More than enough cover if Rowe and Sara move on then in the coming weeks? 

[Midlands Yellow 4,682]

350 away fans! Fair play to them. Not enough toilets for the contingent though apparently. 

[daz 131]

Tbf onel looked the best in the pitch when. He came on for 20 mins... That's saying something 😳😳😳

[Well b back 3,597]

Has Buhoo started a manager out thread yet ?

[Payno10 52]

2 hours ago, ricardo said:

Is it any good?

For some reason I have a lack of interest. 

Finding it hard to work up any pre season enthusiasm at the moment.

I’ll be honest no! I didn’t see any games last year just highlights and tv stuff. But I did see any change at, lost possession to quickly! Kamara at the start looked okay! But wasn’t! Hanley can not play this passing game at all. Positives…. Sainz and Duffy

[Fen Canary 1,456]

58 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said:

3 years?  And the rest!!

We haven’t had a solid defence since before Farke was here 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,580]

14 minutes ago, Fen Canary said:

We haven’t had a solid defence since before Farke was here 

We only conceded 36 league goals in 2020/21, the joint lowest total in our history.

In terms of goals-per-game, that was the outright lowest in our history.

[Nuff Said 5,937]

2 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

We only conceded 36 league goals in 2020/21, the joint lowest total in our history.

In terms of goals-per-game, that was the outright lowest in our history.

Boo! Facts, boo!!!

[Fen Canary 1,456]

17 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

We only conceded 36 league goals in 2020/21, the joint lowest total in our history.

In terms of goals-per-game, that was the outright lowest in our history.

As I’ve said previously though, I don’t believe we had a good defence that season.

We didn’t concede many simply because we had a majority of possession in most games so the opposition didn’t have the ball to launch an attack. However whenever they did I was always fearing the worst as the inevitably waltzed straight through our back line without a decent tackle going in and got a shot away, fortunately Krul played out of his skin that season. It was a victory for the tactics rather than having a solid defence.

Its been a long time since we’ve had a back 4 who could control the opposing strikers and actually snuff out attacks 

[Mason 47 1,903]

Just back.

Think we can call it a little disappointing. We still look rusty in many places, but that could be down to the staggered returnees. We also won't be starting with Sorensen & Fisher as our left-sided defence in many Championship games-one would hope.

Biggest concern- always with the caveat, it is pre-season- is how uncomfortable the midfield looked with 3 good (pre-gelled) players. I suspect it's a task getting the Wagner programming out and the Thorup plan in; time yet to work on it.

Always going to look wonky with no recognised central striker. Shout out to Brad Hills who I thought did an excellent job coming on in midfield and knocking over every blue shirt he could catch. If he has the the technique there might be a role at the base of midfield there IMO.

I'll be watching to see what our plan is in build-up from here on out. Keep Sara, Rowe, Sargent, it won't matter if we don't present them with chances.

 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,580]

4 hours ago, Fen Canary said:

As I’ve said previously though, I don’t believe we had a good defence that season.

We didn’t concede many simply because we had a majority of possession in most games so the opposition didn’t have the ball to launch an attack. However whenever they did I was always fearing the worst as the inevitably waltzed straight through our back line without a decent tackle going in and got a shot away, fortunately Krul played out of his skin that season. It was a victory for the tactics rather than having a solid defence.

Its been a long time since we’ve had a back 4 who could control the opposing strikers and actually snuff out attacks 

So does that mean Krul was the best goalkeeper in our history, Farke's tactics were the best in our history, or the team as a whole was pound-for-pound the best in our history? 

Because if the defence conceded the lowest number of goals in our history despite not being good, it must be one of the other three.

[canarybubbles 2,196]

6 hours ago, Fen Canary said:

As I’ve said previously though, I don’t believe we had a good defence that season.

We didn’t concede many simply because we had a majority of possession in most games so the opposition didn’t have the ball to launch an attack. However whenever they did I was always fearing the worst as the inevitably waltzed straight through our back line without a decent tackle going in and got a shot away, fortunately Krul played out of his skin that season. It was a victory for the tactics rather than having a solid defence.

Its been a long time since we’ve had a back 4 who could control the opposing strikers and actually snuff out attacks 

I don't really see your point here. Surely a good defence is a victory for tactics, not just a collection of good individual defenders.  

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

A word for George Long.

Having stood behind him at Watford last season and called for him to never play for the club again, he was excellent tonight (and in some other games too in the cup last season and in other friendlies).

He maybe decent backup afterall

[horsefly 5,301]

5 hours ago, Mason 47 said:

Just back.

Think we can call it a little disappointing. We still look rusty in many places, but that could be down to the staggered returnees. We also won't be starting with Sorensen & Fisher as our left-sided defence in many Championship games-one would hope.

Biggest concern- always with the caveat, it is pre-season- is how uncomfortable the midfield looked with 3 good (pre-gelled) players. I suspect it's a task getting the Wagner programming out and the Thorup plan in; time yet to work on it.

Always going to look wonky with no recognised central striker. Shout out to Brad Hills who I thought did an excellent job coming on in midfield and knocking over every blue shirt he could catch. If he has the the technique there might be a role at the base of midfield there IMO.

I'll be watching to see what our plan is in build-up from here on out. Keep Sara, Rowe, Sargent, it won't matter if we don't present them with chances.

 

Our Declan Rice type of player??? Although I'm not sure that sort of DM role is one that attracts the mighty Thor.

[Fen Canary 1,456]

2 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

So does that mean Krul was the best goalkeeper in our history, Farke's tactics were the best in our history, or the team as a whole was pound-for-pound the best in our history? 

Because if the defence conceded the lowest number of goals in our history despite not being good, it must be one of the other three.

No it doesn’t because we were playing in the second tier. However Krul was a fantastic keeper and had a great season, the tactics worked exceedingly well for the team we had and it was a brilliant season.

It can be all those things despite us having much more solid defenders in the past. The back 4 under Worthy of Edworthy, Fleming, Malky and Drury were much better defenders than the back 4 under Farke, despite conceding more goals over the course of the season 

[Fen Canary 1,456]

1 hour ago, canarybubbles said:

I don't really see your point here. Surely a good defence is a victory for tactics, not just a collection of good individual defenders.  

It’s a team game yes, my point was we’ve had much better defenders in the past than we had that season, despite the fact we conceded fewer goals. Games where we weren’t able to dominate possession we invariably dropped points because the back 4 wasn’t ever able to withstand any sustained pressure 

[BobLoz3 608]

10 hours ago, Payno10 said:

I’ll be honest no! I didn’t see any games last year just highlights and tv stuff. But I did see any change at, lost possession to quickly! Kamara at the start looked okay! But wasn’t! Hanley can not play this passing game at all. Positives…. Sainz and Duffy

Hilarious. 

Duffy was on for about 10 mins and Sainz missed a glorious opportunity and also screwed up for the Magdeburg goal. 

I feel like you MUST be on a wind up 

[Nuff Said 5,937]

26 minutes ago, BobLoz3 said:

Hilarious. 

Duffy was on for about 10 mins and Sainz missed a glorious opportunity and also screwed up for the Magdeburg goal. 

I feel like you MUST be on a wind up 

I had a look at the Pink Un game summary and the two highest rated players were Hanley and Duffy. 
 

But I thought they were past it and rubbish now?!? 🤷‍♂️🤔

[hogesar 10,713]

5 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

So does that mean Krul was the best goalkeeper in our history, Farke's tactics were the best in our history, or the team as a whole was pound-for-pound the best in our history? 

Because if the defence conceded the lowest number of goals in our history despite not being good, it must be one of the other three.

 

3 hours ago, canarybubbles said:

I don't really see your point here. Surely a good defence is a victory for tactics, not just a collection of good individual defenders.  

Actually, @Fen Canary has a valid point. Our goals conceded was fantastic but equally Krul did actually have one of the best ever xG saved stats ever seen in the championship. Well, it was the best since this stuff was recorded.

We also conceded a much higher xGA than we actually conceded in goals I.e the opposition created a similar amount of quality chances as our first title win under Farke, but didn't take them either missing or Krul saving.

Brentford conceded more but their xGA was actually better than ours and when we both got promoted it was certainly clear who actually had the better defensive setup.

[Capt. Pants 4,973]

Kenny has got to get out of that habit of passing and pointing to passing and moving. Things will look better when the midfielders know how they should be playing, but that must come from Thorup.

[TheBaldOne66 768]

11 hours ago, Payno10 said:

I’ll be honest no! I didn’t see any games last year just highlights and tv stuff. But I did see any change at, lost possession to quickly! Kamara at the start looked okay! But wasn’t! Hanley can not play this passing game at all. Positives…. Sainz and Duffy

Was Sainz setting up their goal one of your positives 🤣🤣

[PurpleCanary 6,367]

11 hours ago, hogesar said:

Look Purple, i have always said and maintained, do not read much if anything from pre season.

However, I about to throw myself into the river wensum.

Wow! You mean I was right?! 😍To be fair there are several key players to come in. But - since I appear to be on a roll - I did have a look at the midfield of McLean, Sara and Nunez (helpfully chosen on my instructions by Thorup for a comparative study) in terms of one-footedness. And although there were no glaring examples, it seems clear to me that McLean's one-footedness is markedly more pronounced that with the other two, who are not averse to using the wrong foot in the way he definitely is. 

[hogesar 10,713]

16 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

Wow! You mean I was right?! 😍To be fair there are several key players to come in. But - since I appear to be on a roll - I did have a look at the midfield of McLean, Sara and Nunez (helpfully chosen on my instructions by Thorup for a comparative study) in terms of one-footedness. And although there were no glaring examples, it seems clear to me that McLean's one-footedness is markedly more pronounced that with the other two, who are not averse to using the wrong foot in the way he definitely is. 

I would say though, that is sort of irrelevant if your back 5 includes Long, Stacey, Hanley, Sorensen and Fisher, none of whom are comfortable on their weak foot!