Binner watch......

[C.I.D 364]

1 hour ago, Capt. Pants said:

How do we think that Ipswich squad will do in the Championship?

Not as well as they think they'll do ................some of the farmhands,already resigned to relegation,believe they're going to walk back to the PL at a canter.

Reminds me when we got relegated under Worthington................with a strikeforce of Ashton,Mackenzie and Hucks I thought we'd muller most teams in the Chumps.

That didn't go according to plan,did it? 

[Capt. Pants 5,145]

4 minutes ago, C.I.D said:

Not as well as they think they'll do ................some of the farmhands,already resigned to relegation,believe they're going to walk back to the PL at a canter.

Reminds me when we got relegated under Worthington................with a strikeforce of Ashton,Mackenzie and Hucks I thought we'd muller most teams in the Chumps.

That didn't go according to plan,did it? 

Depends, I was led to believe that the squad they've got for this season is crap and only good enough for the Championship. On that basis no one will want to buy their players, unless of course the problem is actually McKenna.

I'm probably more reminded what we did with Farke and our second promotion when we actually pissed the Championship.

I think the bottom 3 EPL is already sorted. Going to be a tough old Championship next season. 

[K Lo 248]

5 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Depends, I was led to believe that the squad they've got for this season is crap and only good enough for the Championship. On that basis no one will want to buy their players, unless of course the problem is actually McKenna.

I'm probably more reminded what we did with Farke and our second promotion when we actually pissed the Championship.

I think the bottom 3 EPL is already sorted. Going to be a tough old Championship next season. 

Brum will be there too with their £gazillions.

[C.I.D 364]

9 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Depends, I was led to believe that the squad they've got for this season is crap and only good enough for the Championship. On that basis no one will want to buy their players, unless of course the problem is actually McKenna.

I'm probably more reminded what we did with Farke and our second promotion when we actually pissed the Championship.

I think the bottom 3 EPL is already sorted. Going to be a tough old Championship next season. 

A key point with any relegated side,irrespective of how decent a squad they might have,is to have the mental strength to shake off that losing mentality from the previous season....................

Edited November 2, 2024 by C.I.D

[Mason 47 1,994]

3 minutes ago, C.I.D said:

A key point with any relegated side,irrespective of how decent a squad they might have,is to have the mental strength to shake off that losing mentality from the previous season....................

Also, I don't think they stand out particularly as an excellent side. I feel like the wave of momentum they had (and Southampton/ Leeds falling away spectacularly) got them up. 

One wonders how much use that might be after a season of getting battered.

[duke63 755]

1 hour ago, Thirsty Lizard said:

They won't have that squad if they're in the Championship!

Agree. Delap, Greaves won't want to go back to the Championship (and Championship wages) after proving they can work in the EPL.

[Capt. Pants 5,145]

3 minutes ago, C.I.D said:

A key point with any relegated side,irrespective of how decent a squad they might have,is to have the mental strength to shake of that losing mentality from the previous season....................

Indeed and the reverse of that happened when the Binners took momentum forward from League One. There are no guarantees in football and setting yourself up to be a yo-yo club is risky, but arguably great for fans. They won't walk back up if Wolves come down with maximum parachute payments and one of Burnley, Leeds and Sheff Utd don't get promoted. Then you have Birmingham and who knows that bloody Wrexham story coming up from League One.

 

[Mason 47 1,994]

1 hour ago, Mason 47 said:

Southampton in November? Damien Francis.

I make it a win on the 14th game, which for them will be Crystal Palace at Portaloo on Dec 3.

Spurs, Utd, Forest and an international break between now and then.

For those interested, the record for winless starts is 17 games. So for Ipswich that magical date would be full-time against Arsenal on the 27th Dec

I feel its unlikely, but what a story it would be. Record breakers!

[C.I.D 364]

5 minutes ago, Mason 47 said:

For those interested, the record for winless starts is 17 games. So for Ipswich that magical date would be full-time against Arsenal on the 27th Dec

I feel its unlikely, but what a story it would be. Record breakers!

.........to match their record of biggest EPL defeat 😁😁

[Up and Away 119]

Was always going to be a struggle to stay up this season. With Leicester and Southampton also going up, pretty much all of the Prem have been in the top flight for most of the last five years. That is a lot of PL money to build a squad, something a newly promoted side simply cannot do in one window.

I know Transfer Market is not particularly accurate but Ipswich squad at around £100m, is a fraction of most of the sides they are competing against at the bottom end of the division to stay up.

They seem to have been unlucky today and if not for a late goal today and one last week, then they would have 9 points and be 16th, four points off the top half of the table. Small margins and all that. Not impossible that they can pull this off but going to be a big challenge.   

[Iwans Big Toe 384]

22 minutes ago, Up and Away said:

Was always going to be a struggle to stay up this season. With Leicester and Southampton also going up, pretty much all of the Prem have been in the top flight for most of the last five years. That is a lot of PL money to build a squad, something a newly promoted side simply cannot do in one window.

I know Transfer Market is not particularly accurate but Ipswich squad at around £100m, is a fraction of most of the sides they are competing against at the bottom end of the division to stay up.

They seem to have been unlucky today and if not for a late goal today and one last week, then they would have 9 points and be 16th, four points off the top half of the table. Small margins and all that. Not impossible that they can pull this off but going to be a big challenge.   

Lucky = good.

Therefore the reverse must be true, unlucky = bad.

 

[Worthy Nigelton 1,329]

3 minutes ago, Iwans Big Toe said:

Lucky = good.

Therefore the reverse must be true, unlucky = bad.

 

Yep. The old Gary Player quote "The more I practice the luckier I get".

[hogesar 10,935]

1 hour ago, Up and Away said:

Was always going to be a struggle to stay up this season. With Leicester and Southampton also going up, pretty much all of the Prem have been in the top flight for most of the last five years. That is a lot of PL money to build a squad, something a newly promoted side simply cannot do in one window.

I know Transfer Market is not particularly accurate but Ipswich squad at around £100m, is a fraction of most of the sides they are competing against at the bottom end of the division to stay up.

They seem to have been unlucky today and if not for a late goal today and one last week, then they would have 9 points and be 16th, four points off the top half of the table. Small margins and all that. Not impossible that they can pull this off but going to be a big challenge.   

It's not accurate when they spent 100m this preseason alone.

They are statistically one of the worst performing teams per 90 mins so far in the last 6 or 7 years of the Prem...

[SwearyCanary 1,363]

1 hour ago, Up and Away said:

Was always going to be a struggle to stay up this season. With Leicester and Southampton also going up, pretty much all of the Prem have been in the top flight for most of the last five years. That is a lot of PL money to build a squad, something a newly promoted side simply cannot do in one window.

I know Transfer Market is not particularly accurate but Ipswich squad at around £100m, is a fraction of most of the sides they are competing against at the bottom end of the division to stay up.

They seem to have been unlucky today and if not for a late goal today and one last week, then they would have 9 points and be 16th, four points off the top half of the table. Small margins and all that. Not impossible that they can pull this off but going to be a big challenge.   

If not the fact my Nan has no wheels she would be a bike 

[The Raptor 1,587]

We haven't been much better up there but it's still hilarious.

 

The small margins thing struck a familiar nerve. It seemed we were competitive in so many games only to lose narrowly to a dodgy decision/moment of skill from the opposition/mistake from one of our players. 

It looks a while but it eventually dawned on me that the gulf is massive experienced premier league players make less mistakes/have that skill in their locker/refs give the benefit of the doubt to established teams(not going to open that debate but they blatantly do) we were never going to compete as we didn't follow the rules. 

Any team coming up has to throw 100s of millions at it to stand a chance. The premier league is an overhyped cult 

 

[Ian 1,223]

2 hours ago, Up and Away said:

They seem to have been unlucky today and if not for a late goal today and one last week, then they would have 9 points and be 16th, four points off the top half of the table. Small margins and all that. Not impossible that they can pull this off but going to be a big challenge.   

I caught the last 10 minutes today, including the equaliser, Ipswich were lucky to come away with a point from what I saw.

Still, nice to see you have the time to come onto our humble message board Kieran, all the worst for the rest of the season.

[Corbs1 181]

The premier league for me has been very boring for decades. The old first division never was. In recent years I only look curiously at the top, the relegation battle is and has been the only real interest. To be fair relegation battles have always been more interesting than promotion plans, whatever the division. Failure is much more human and worth examining than what is deemed ‘success’. We have really good teams in the premier, l’pool, Citee, ****, and for me they are genuinely boring. I suppose this is because at root I’m not a football purist, I’m much more drawn to the fabric of the game, the people, the culture, the identity, the belonging. 

[Well b back 3,639]

3 hours ago, K Lo said:

Brum will be there too with their £gazillions.

Indeed they have big ambitions as do Wrexham. You will see both sides spending huge in January getting ready for next season, even though both spent big in the summer. They can get around the FFP rules for championship sides as the rules are different in league 1. Birmingham have also pocketed close on £40 million for 2 academy players ( Bellinghams ), with more to come.

[dylanisabaddog 6,188]

9 hours ago, Mason 47 said:

For those interested, the record for winless starts is 17 games. So for Ipswich that magical date would be full-time against Arsenal on the 27th Dec

I feel its unlikely, but what a story it would be. Record breakers!

It is possible although Palace at home is a possibility 

[cambridgeshire canary 7,912]

6 hours ago, The Raptor said:

We haven't been much better up there but it's still hilarious.

 

The small margins thing struck a familiar nerve. It seemed we were competitive in so many games only to lose narrowly to a dodgy decision/moment of skill from the opposition/mistake from one of our players. 

It looks a while but it eventually dawned on me that the gulf is massive experienced premier league players make less mistakes/have that skill in their locker/refs give the benefit of the doubt to established teams(not going to open that debate but they blatantly do) we were never going to compete as we didn't follow the rules. 

Any team coming up has to throw 100s of millions at it to stand a chance. The premier league is an overhyped cult 

 

The biggest difference between the championship and the Prem is that in the Championship you can get away with your players making a mistake or two. But in the Prem?

You make a mistake and the opposition will score against you.

[dylanisabaddog 6,188]

1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

The biggest difference between the championship and the Prem is that in the Championship you can get away with your players making a mistake or two. But in the Prem?

You make a mistake and the opposition will score against you.

Yes. Give the ball away in your own half in the Championship and you probably only concede one or two times out of ten. In the Premier League that's probably closer to seven or eight times out of ten. 

[Ken Hairy 4,313]

McBinna feeling the pressure, rattled in the post match interview, no bias but that's not a penalty for me, certainly not enough to overturn the decision.

Never noticed before just how boss eyed he is too, been living in Suffolk too long? 

[duke63 755]

15 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

McBinna feeling the pressure, rattled in the post match interview, no bias but that's not a penalty for me, certainly not enough to overturn the decision.

Never noticed before just how boss eyed he is too, been living in Suffolk too long? 

probably not happy he was overlooked for the ManuRe job too. 😁

[Trevor Hockey's Beard 612]

12 hours ago, The Raptor said:

We haven't been much better up there but it's still hilarious.

 

The small margins thing struck a familiar nerve. It seemed we were competitive in so many games only to lose narrowly to a dodgy decision/moment of skill from the opposition/mistake from one of our players. 

It looks a while but it eventually dawned on me that the gulf is massive experienced premier league players make less mistakes/have that skill in their locker/refs give the benefit of the doubt to established teams(not going to open that debate but they blatantly do) we were never going to compete as we didn't follow the rules. 

Any team coming up has to throw 100s of millions at it to stand a chance. The premier league is an overhyped cult 

 

Forest seem to prove the theory that you need to spend big and somehow survive a couple of seasons, during which you strengthen the squad, and then you'll have a chance to push on. Taking the risk has paid off for them - for now, but it is certainly not a given plan of action, and could be disastrous for many clubs.

The football authorities have taken no action to reduce the huge gulf between the Championship and the Premiership, and I can't imagine a scenario where they do.

[FenwayFrank 2,718]

17 hours ago, Up and Away said:

Was always going to be a struggle to stay up this season. With Leicester and Southampton also going up, pretty much all of the Prem have been in the top flight for most of the last five years. That is a lot of PL money to build a squad, something a newly promoted side simply cannot do in one window.

I know Transfer Market is not particularly accurate but Ipswich squad at around £100m, is a fraction of most of the sides they are competing against at the bottom end of the division to stay up.

They seem to have been unlucky today and if not for a late goal today and one last week, then they would have 9 points and be 16th, four points off the top half of the table. Small margins and all that. Not impossible that they can pull this off but going to be a big challenge.   

Binner

[aBee 176]

2 hours ago, Trevor Hockey's Beard said:

Forest seem to prove the theory that you need to spend big and somehow survive a couple of seasons, during which you strengthen the squad, and then you'll have a chance to push on. Taking the risk has paid off for them - for now, but it is certainly not a given plan of action, and could be disastrous for many clubs.

The football authorities have taken no action to reduce the huge gulf between the Championship and the Premiership, and I can't imagine a scenario where they do.

If Forest hadn’t spaffed on quite so many players and just focused on the moderate number of obviously good and reasonably priced players that are their current core they’d have done much better. In their first season they spent a lot on dross who were so clearly bad buys they didn’t even get squad numbers a month after signing and landed them with a points deduction the following season. 
 

I think the PL this season is actually looking pretty exciting. It’s very tight with only 6 points between 3rd and 10th and nobody yet being completely stranded and regularly beaten with ease. I genuinely couldn’t call our next 3 games (Fulham, Bournemouth, Leicester) between being 3 wins to put us on 22 points and probably near top 6 or 3 defeats and on the edge of a relegation battle. 
 

I’d not worry too much about Brum and Wrexham unless they do some ridiculous January business and game the PSR rules in L1 fully. I’m not sure Stansfield is going to be near a 25-30 goal Championship striker next season nor is he on track to get that sort of return in L1. 

[cornish sam 1,057]

On 03/11/2024 at 05:25, dylanisabaddog said:

It is possible although Palace at home is a possibility 

Looking at that I wouldn;t be that surprised at them getting to the transfer window without a win! Palace and Wolves are their best bets, but even those are going to be very difficult, experienced PL teams that are also in the mire know that games against the like of Ipswich are a target for important points...

[Kenny Foggo 1,204]

The manner is which they have dropped points and their drop in confidence could not have happen to a nicer bunch... Europe might be a struggle for the poor deluded souls. 

[yellow 63 29]

20 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

The manner is which they have dropped points and their drop in confidence could not have happen to a nicer bunch... Europe might be a struggle for the poor deluded souls. 

Might get a mid winter break to Spain if there lucky 😀

[A Load of Squit 6,260]

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