Sheva 146 Posted July 2 The ‘thick, racist, drug addict’ bringing down the Panorama reporter . Seems to me he’s underestimated, isn’t going away, has a big nationwide support and will speak out about the topics others are frightened to touch, ie the grooming gangs and mass immigration and the Islamic takeover of British towns and cities. I like to hear what the likes of Tommy Robinson and George Galloway etc have to say, it’s not always comfortable but it’s good to hear ‘ both sides of the storey’. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,040 Posted July 2 15 minutes ago, Sheva said: The ‘thick, racist, drug addict’ bringing down the Panorama reporter . Seems to me he’s underestimated, isn’t going away, has a big nationwide support and will speak out about the topics others are frightened to touch, ie the grooming gangs and mass immigration and the Islamic takeover of British towns and cities. I like to hear what the likes of Tommy Robinson and George Galloway etc have to say, it’s not always comfortable but it’s good to hear ‘ both sides of the storey’. You're bat sh!t mental. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,946 Posted July 2 8 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: You're bat sh!t mental. Something isn't right. Someone with supposed Ukrainian links pushing pro Kremlin horse****? 🤔 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,539 Posted July 3 21 hours ago, Herman said: Something isn't right. Someone with supposed Ukrainian links pushing pro Kremlin horse****? 🤔 A very weak Russian plant, barely even deserves the ignore button. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellow hammer 107 Posted July 3 On 02/07/2024 at 09:16, A Load of Squit said: You're bat sh!t mental. After asking for proof of the poor treatment of Tommy Robinson, you come up with retarded response. Pathetic but par for the course for you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,040 Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, yellow hammer said: After asking for proof of the poor treatment of Tommy Robinson, you come up with retarded response. Pathetic but par for the course for you. Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,046 Posted July 3 (edited) 15 hours ago, Daz Sparks said: A very weak Russian plant, barely even deserves the ignore button. That’s right. The FSB hand-picked an unknown lower working class tanning salon owner from Luton as their weapon of choice to bring about the downfall of the Western world. Edited July 3 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,196 Posted July 3 On 01/07/2024 at 07:31, littleyellowbirdie said: I know it as a fact, yes, on account of having the opportunity to chat to a former prison governor of his along with the visits he had from MI5 in prison laying out the future if he persisted. Why are you incapable of having a discussion without personal remarks accusing people of being ‘wind up merchants’. You’re the one that threw in questions implying guilt over an incident where he was acquitted. That seems more of a wind up on your part than anything anyone else has done. I am rather surprised that somebody who would have signed The Official Secrets Act is telling you stuff like this, even more so given that MI5 were mentioned.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,046 Posted July 3 3 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: I am rather surprised that somebody who would have signed The Official Secrets Act is telling you stuff like this, even more so given that MI5 were mentioned.............. No comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,196 Posted July 4 17 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said: No comment. Correct answer......... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,046 Posted July 4 5 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: Correct answer......... I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,196 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I know. Would have been extremely surprised if you said anything else............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,046 Posted July 5 6 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: Would have been extremely surprised if you said anything else............... I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,196 Posted July 5 2 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I know. I know you know and I know you know I know. (ad infinitum)......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,046 Posted July 5 7 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: I know you know and I know you know I know. (ad infinitum)......... I know you know and I know you know I know. (ad infinitum)......... (just to complete the loop) Does this crash the forum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,196 Posted July 5 1 hour ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I know you know and I know you know I know. (ad infinitum)......... (just to complete the loop) Does this crash the forum? No comment.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,046 Posted July 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: No comment.............. Clearly not. Does getting carried away with ellipses crash the forum............................................................................................. Edit: Also no. Edited July 5 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,046 Posted July 5 On 03/07/2024 at 23:38, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: I am rather surprised that somebody who would have signed The Official Secrets Act is telling you stuff like this, even more so given that MI5 were mentioned.............. Thinking about it, I'm going to ask you a question: Edward Snowden, a security vetted intelligence contractor, actively stole state secrets and passed it on for release publicly, compromising many intelligence operations. Snowden's job was military intelligence and he chose to do that. Same goes for Bradley, now Chelsey Manning, and what she gave to wikileaks while serving in the US military. Those are examples of people throwing their careers away and making themselves enemies of the state because they have personal questions about what's going on. Given that, why is it that surprising that people not directly involved in intelligence might occasionally let slip things that the state might not necessarily want to be made public? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,196 Posted July 5 9 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Thinking about it, I'm going to ask you a question: Edward Snowden, a security vetted intelligence contractor, actively stole state secrets and passed it on for release publicly, compromising many intelligence operations. Snowden's job was military intelligence and he chose to do that. Same goes for Bradley, now Chelsey Manning, and what she gave to wikileaks while serving in the US military. Those are examples of people throwing their careers away and making themselves enemies of the state because they have personal questions about what's going on. Given that, why is it that surprising that people not directly involved in intelligence might occasionally let slip things that the state might not necessarily want to be made public? Good question. I don't really know enough about either case to really answer why they did what they did. In both cases the information they leaked was way bigger than the sort of things you were told. Snowden became a Russian citizen and Manning something of a celebrity so maybe that explains their motivation?................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,046 Posted July 5 2 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: Good question. I don't really know enough about either case to really answer why they did what they did. In both cases the information they leaked was way bigger than the sort of things you were told. Snowden became a Russian citizen and Manning something of a celebrity so maybe that explains their motivation?................ I think Snowden's defection to Russia was simply about keeping his freedom after what doing something he believed was right. I'm not convinced he's a big fan of Russia, although I'm sure he won't be criticising it. I think Yaxley-Lennon's formation of the EDL amounted to nothing more than a protest movement representing a real community problem in Luton thanks to the likes of Anjem Choudhry and other extremists. Personally, I felt that was a legitimate and understandable reaction. I'm normally the first to support the state when it comes to the grey areas they have to contend with intelligence, but I believe that Yaxley-Lennon has been turned into a bogeyman way beyond any threat that he might represent. He may have been a football hooligan, he may have taken drugs, he may have committed mortgage fraud (just like Peter Mandelson), but so have an awful lot of people, and he is really nothing more than a protester, at least he was at the outset. On this forum, where there are so many who will cry 'they have a right to protest' when it comes to protest for every left-wing cause imaginable, that view completely disappears when it comes to protests they disagree with. I think what you've said about Snowden and Manning gives a clue to what has happened with Yaxley-Lennon, Basically, the whole 'citizen journalist' thing is now mostly about his own and his family's survival in a climate where it's probably completely impossible for him to exist doing anything else, even if he wanted to, just as fleeing to Russia was Snowden's only way to stay free after what he did and Manning probably has no chance of survival except as some sort of celebrity given that he's a traitor to his country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,654 Posted July 9 Watch this. If any of you still think he's a racist thug afterwards, please explain your reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,946 Posted July 9 I think all the previous evidence of him being a racist thug is enough evidence that he's a racist thug. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 1,362 Posted July 9 34 minutes ago, Herman said: I think all the previous evidence of him being a racist thug is enough evidence that he's a racist thug. You’re not going to watch it are you? Preconceived opinions are the way forward 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,946 Posted July 9 9 minutes ago, Fen Canary said: You’re not going to watch it are you? Preconceived opinions are the way forward Having seen their work over the years of course I'm not going to watch Tommy Robinson and Jordan Peterson. They don't change after one interview. Two of the biggest frauds out there FFS. Get a ****ing grip the pair of you, you're grown adults. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,654 Posted July 9 28 minutes ago, Herman said: Having seen their work over the years of course I'm not going to watch Tommy Robinson and Jordan Peterson. They don't change after one interview. Two of the biggest frauds out there FFS. Get a ****ing grip the pair of you, you're grown adults. You are one of the most prejudiced, one-eyed idiots I've ever come across, & there's a lot of competition, not least on this MB. I have no doubt that Yaxley-Lennon likes a fight. He seems to be highly emotional & prone to irrationality, & I'm pretty sure this will colour his narrative & as such his statements should be examined. He admits to having been a football hooligan. And he looks like a thug. But to condemn him & dismiss everything he says on those grounds & call him nothing but a liar is, to paraphrase the witch scene in MP's Holy Grail " cos he looks like one". If you have any evidence to refute what he was saying in that video then please enlighten me. If you want to persuade other people to your view then that is the only way to do so. No amount of sneering, name-calling or unfounded assertions (bullying, in other words) is going to work. But I suspect you're not concerned about that. We're all Deplorables as far as you & your ilk are concerned. And, if that's the case you can f**k right off & play with the traffic (See? Easy isn't it). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naturalcynic 817 Posted July 9 1 hour ago, Herman said: Having seen their work over the years of course I'm not going to watch Tommy Robinson and Jordan Peterson. They don't change after one interview. Two of the biggest frauds out there FFS. Get a ****ing grip the pair of you, you're grown adults. Do you think it was a good or a bad thing that Yaxley-Lennon raised awareness and brought to public attention the problem of wide scale systematic grooming and rape of thousands of young girls by Islamic gangs in a very large number of our towns and cities? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,946 Posted July 9 It was already well known. The problem was nobody was doing anything about it. Some grifter using a massive problem like that to con the hard of thinking adds to it not helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,946 Posted July 9 Look, I'll be honest with you. There's something about nazis and their suited enablers that I don't like. It could be that I am half-Kraut and know exactly where these people take a country or it could simply be that they are nazis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 1,362 Posted July 9 20 minutes ago, Herman said: It was already well known. The problem was nobody was doing anything about it. Some grifter using a massive problem like that to con the hard of thinking adds to it not helps. And they would have continued to do nothing about it until somebody brought it to the public’s attention wouldn’t you agree? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,946 Posted July 9 14 minutes ago, Fen Canary said: And they would have continued to do nothing about it until somebody brought it to the public’s attention wouldn’t you agree? No, a Muslim man decided to do something about it, Nazir Afzal, and he did. And who did he end up needing police protection from? The EDL. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites