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50 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

Poor old Hanley - I don’t think he will ever be same player. Looked out of his depth tonight. And Gunn didn’t do himself many favours either. You can see that they are champs standard when playing against top teams 

I think Gunn was at fault for the first German goal. He had a very poor game just like this Leeds performance. If we get an offer to cover his transfer fee I would take it.

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52 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

Poor old Hanley - I don’t think he will ever be same player. Looked out of his depth tonight. And Gunn didn’t do himself many favours either. You can see that they are champs standard when playing against top teams 

That injury was the end of Hanley, you dont recover from that post 30. Hell you would be lucky to post 25.

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1 hour ago, Coneys Knee said:

Did you expect them to go over there and be miserable and pessimistic? I for one think their support is fantastic and is nice to see. They know they’re carp but they support their team. Fair play to them.

I’m not criticising their enthusiasm and support for their team just their totally unrealistic expectation of what their team is capable of.

 

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54 minutes ago, Mike said:

I think Gunn was at fault for the first German goal. He had a very poor game just like this Leeds performance. If we get an offer to cover his transfer fee I would take it.

Dad was a far, far superior keeper. I’d have him in now, he’d block half the goal. 

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I wasn’t totally focused but I can’t remember a Scottish shot on or off target all game - that o.g was out of the blue 

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2 hours ago, Mike said:

I think Gunn was at fault for the first German goal. He had a very poor game just like this Leeds performance. If we get an offer to cover his transfer fee I would take it.

And replace him with who? People seem to think we have money to replace all these players they want gone from the club. It's an absolute nonsense.

Gunn is the least of our issues and was one of our best players last season. Like those wanting McLean gone, people need to give their heads a wobble. 

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3 hours ago, Terminally Yellow said:

And replace him with who? People seem to think we have money to replace all these players they want gone from the club. It's an absolute nonsense.

Gunn is the least of our issues and was one of our best players last season. Like those wanting McLean gone, people need to give their heads a wobble. 

Correct. The difference in performance level between Gunn and Long last season goes to show that finding a good keeper at this level isn't as easy as people think.

But I think the only reason anyone is suggesting this is because Germany and Leeds are fresh in everyone's minds. The collective mindset before the playoff semis was that we were hoping there wouldn't be any big bids for him after his excellent season. Football fans can be so fickle.

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9 hours ago, king canary said:

I think the people who were concerned about teams spending big money on Gunn can relax a bit...

Championship player at best. I think that we can reasonably expect him to be at Norwich next season. 

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9 minutes ago, Conrad said:

Championship player at best. I think that we can reasonably expect him to be at Norwich next season. 

We all love Angus but he had a poor night. Has to save the first , got away with the disallowed goal and a suggestion that he should get across to the 5th. 
That said the sweaties looked like a pub team in comparison to Germany so he wasn’t alone. 

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11 hours ago, KeiranShikari said:

Yeah, that's why I've been surprised at some Norwich fans thinking Gunn will be off this summer. Good keeper, not a great keeper.

It’s like Gunn is easily caught out early in games. Maybe teams will start having pot shots at him in the first 5 or 10 mins next season to catch him off guard? 

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Gunn looked unsighted for the first goal for me, it seemed to have the hallmarks of a keeper who saw it late. I'd actually argue that parry leading to the Porteous challenge was his weak moment. Talk about knocking one back into the mixer.

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NO Scotland shots on or off target.

10 German shots on target 

20 shots off target.

Total embarrassment, ..Billy Bremner, Jimmy Johnston, Jock Stein will turning in their graves.

 

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Re Hanley. Lets be serious here. How many times have we seen Hanley caught under the flight of the ball in no mans land. His positional play has always been questionable,fit or not.

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Scotland statistically have the most 'second division' players in the tournament, when you supplement that with the SPL players they have, another second rate league, in their squad, the smattering of good premier league players they have in Robertson and McGinn, isnt going to be anywhere near enough

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28 minutes ago, mannings bandy legs said:

Re Hanley. Lets be serious here. How many times have we seen Hanley caught under the flight of the ball in no mans land. His positional play has always been questionable,fit or not.

 

Caught some of the Talk Sport post match discussion and the carrot top know all was seriously suggesting Hanley was MOTM! Apparently he 'dominated' and 'showed real leadership'. One can only assume his Ovaltine had been spiked to come out with that rubbish!

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11 hours ago, Robert N. LiM said:

This is your finest work

It’s good but I’m not sure it beats this.

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26 minutes ago, Pyro Pete said:

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Scotland are Hungary for redemption but there's Norway they'll get it. 😉

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This is a weird thread.  Germany have a team from the top teams in Germany plus some real stars from teams abroad like Real Madrid, Man City, Arsenal etc.  Scotland have players mostly from the SPL and the Champs + a handful who are in the Prem but none who'd count as stars.  The scoreline was at the worse end of what was likely, but certainly nothing surprising.

 

Very harsh criticism of Gunn IMO - he made plenty of good saves and it would be unfair to blame him for any of the goals.  For the first, he nearly saved it, but if he'd actually saved it, that would have been a brilliant save.

 

Ditto really harsh on Hanley who came on when the game was already lost and has been out for most of the season with injury.  Didn't do that bad, yes he did look a bit out of his depth but then so would most CBs from the Champs or bottom of the PL against that attack.  

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