Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted June 6 Didn’t see that coming! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 739 Posted June 6 I think Southgate is throwing all his eggs in an untried basket. To be fair if what we saw the other night is anything to go by, the chances of us winning the tournament are pretty slim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,762 Posted June 6 Blimey, fair play to Southgate. A few years late to the party, but he's finally reached the correct conclusion regarding Harry Maguire. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,955 Posted June 6 Maguire's reaction on X was strangely, word for word the same as the one released by Maddison earlier today. Hmmm .... 🤔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satriales 994 Posted June 6 Apprently Maguire is injured. Might be a smokescreen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,013 Posted June 6 Taking Dunk instead of Maguire is a surprise. Not saying it's wrong mind but wasn't expecting that. Potentially one of the youngest England squads I've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035 Posted June 6 Dont think Maguire has been dropped more injured. Grealish has been exposed by club and country for the one trick, diving, pony he is 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 800 Posted June 6 Yeah not sure I would have Eze and Gordon over Maddison, Grealish, Sterling and Rashford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete 371 Posted June 6 Not surprising with this, Grealish was to be expected. He's been second rate all season playing the Guardiola way. Doku has been the far better option on the left, tried to take on opponents and make chances for others. GRealish has never justified his transfer fee, only as the court jester and resident pis artist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,239 Posted June 6 Not surprised with Grealish but surprised with Maguire. I'd take Maguire, he is limited but - Stones aside - we don't have any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,798 Posted June 6 Maguires injured. Grealish is the interesting one. Would seemingly mean he has more faith in Eze and Palmer than Grealish. Could be a gamble, but I do feel Eze is due a breakout season as he's clearly very talented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Top corner 260 Posted June 6 Taking Dunk & Gomez, whilst leaving Branthwaite out is crazy in my opinion. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,462 Posted June 6 (edited) It’s also about who fits the group. Many of the squad will not kick a ball. You also need types who are positive, hungry and happy to be there anyway. You might only use 17 players the whole tournament. A frustrated anyone isn’t ideal to have sitting around. it’s also common to ‘show the pathway’. It’s logical to fill some 21-24 places with tomorrow’s England players. Parma Edited June 6 by Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 3,087 Posted June 6 54 minutes ago, Ulfotto said: Yeah not sure I would have Eze and Gordon over Maddison, Grealish, Sterling and Rashford. The issue is that Grealish and Rashford are good on their day but haven't really been this season. I was expecting Grealish to get dropped after Maddison as he's been out of the Man City starting 11 a lot and had his attitude publicly challenged by pep. Never a good look. Sterling isn't seemingly the player he was either. Perhaps he's been found out a bit and is starting to slow down? Maddison, not sure why really. Inconsistency this season? Southgate wants players that can hit the floor running now. Or who can be thrown in and are hungry to prove their worth on the international level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 439 Posted June 6 10 minutes ago, chicken said: The issue is that Grealish and Rashford are good on their day but haven't really been this season. I was expecting Grealish to get dropped after Maddison as he's been out of the Man City starting 11 a lot and had his attitude publicly challenged by pep. Never a good look. Sterling isn't seemingly the player he was either. Perhaps he's been found out a bit and is starting to slow down? Maddison, not sure why really. Inconsistency this season? Southgate wants players that can hit the floor running now. Or who can be thrown in and are hungry to prove their worth on the international level. Grealish always hits the floor running!!!!!!!!!😉 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 3,087 Posted June 6 Just now, mannings bandy legs said: Grealish always hits the floor running or not!!!!!!!!!😉 Corrected that for you... 😉🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,605 Posted June 6 Maguire is injured and would not have played in any game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 606 Posted June 6 Southgate is very inconsistent He stated Grealish was dropped because he hasn't played as much, has been inconsistent and that others have played much better. But also picks Shaw, who's had a poor season, been inconsistent, has been inured a large part, and apparently has @[played better then Branthwaite" so completely contradicts himself!. And whilst Wharton & Eze have had good seasons for Palace, to pick them after one friendly game. Still at least like Knapper he's bringing the average age down. First dropping Henderson, now Maguire. We'll have a very inexperienced CB paring though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,605 Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, Samwam27 said: Southgate is very inconsistent He stated Grealish was dropped because he hasn't played as much, has been inconsistent and that others have played much better. But also picks Shaw, who's had a poor season, been inconsistent, has been inured a large part, and apparently has @[played better then Branthwaite" so completely contradicts himself!. And whilst Wharton & Eze have had good seasons for Palace, to pick them after one friendly game. Still at least like Knapper he's bringing the average age down. First dropping Henderson, now Maguire. We'll have a very inexperienced CB paring though If Jack Grealish was a defender and as good he would be in as there are not many options in those areas. Southgate was comparing Grealish to other players that play in the same or similar positions, whereas Luke Shaw is worth a gamble as there is nobody as good to replace him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,791 Posted June 6 2 hours ago, Ulfotto said: Yeah not sure I would have Eze and Gordon over Maddison, Grealish, Sterling and Rashford. Two playing regularly and in top form - against four not playing or out of form. Eze has been outstanding recently . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 800 Posted June 6 9 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: Two playing regularly and in top form - against four not playing or out of form. Eze has been outstanding recently . I actually like he’s shaken the squad up at bit as other wise it just a collection of players who haven’t managed to get it over the line in the last two tournaments. Let’s be honest though Foden and Saka barring injury will be the wide options 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,791 Posted June 6 10 minutes ago, Ulfotto said: I actually like he’s shaken the squad up at bit as other wise it just a collection of players who haven’t managed to get it over the line in the last two tournaments. Let’s be honest though Foden and Saka barring injury will be the wide options Agreed . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted June 6 Fair play to Southgate, he’s growing a pair. We’ll breeze through the group stage and if he continues to be brave (and stop being Mr Safety First when it matters) who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,684 Posted June 6 Interesting collection players I'm not that aware of, but with the core players you know will be starting. Looking forward to seeing Saka, Foden and Bellingham in action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,573 Posted June 6 3 hours ago, pete said: GRealish has never justified his transfer fee, only as resident pis artist. All he needs is a mayors hat and he's just a **** English Kenny McClean! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted June 6 5 hours ago, pete said: GRealish has never justified his transfer fee, only as the court jester and resident pis artist. He hasn't been at his best this season but he has won the Premier League three times in a row and was a key, first choice player for Guardiola in the treble winning season for them last year, notably starting the big games. He wouldn't have played as much football for Pep and Man City as he has if he wasn't a top player but yeah, he's not quite hit the heights of late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Canary 180 Posted June 6 I’ve never rated Grealish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 973 Posted June 6 7 hours ago, Ulfotto said: Yeah not sure I would have Eze and Gordon over Maddison, Grealish, Sterling and Rashford. I would on this seasons form. Maddison started the season well but hasn't got his rhythm back after injury. Brainthwaite is the one I don't understand, he should be on the plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 573 Posted June 7 Maddison, and Grealish not making the squad makes total sense, simply based on performances and the quality still in the squad to play those positions. Maguire has to be injury based, his experience at the back would be valuable. Amazing news for Lewis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 914 Posted June 7 (edited) 15 hours ago, Ulfotto said: Yeah not sure I would have Eze and Gordon over Maddison, Grealish, Sterling and Rashford. Thise two have been in good form, the others haven't. Correct call IMO. Edited June 7 by Gordon Bennett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
