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John Percy names Johannes Hoff Thorup as the new boss

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3 minutes ago, HazzaJet said:

Saw someone post that apparently he likes to play fast attacking football but could be accused of defensive naivety. Isn’t that a bit similar to Farke?

I think any team that plays out from the back will be accused of being naive defensively perhaps?

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1 hour ago, Google Bot said:

As a few have said, good signs if this was the initial target.  Sky sports said that work permit has already been agreed so pretty much a done deal.

In regards to bringing through youngsters I had a look at Thorup when the odds were high on him initially and Nordsjaelland is a club who 'do things different' as per this vid from 4 years ago:

He's been there since 2015 working from the youth, through to assistant and full-time manager last year.  It sounds a wonderful club, and could be a brilliant fit for us.  Let's hope he can bring some of his backroom with him who share the same ethos.

As well as Mohammed Kudus (mentioned in the video), Nordsjaelland also had Simon Adingra come through the RTD academy to them before selling him on to Brighton. It would be interesting to know how much involvement Thorup had with those two; his time as a youth coach crossed over with their time in the youth team.

 

1 hour ago, Mason 47 said:

Can't help but wonder if the Attanasio affiliate club/ player trading concept has looked at the work at FCN, having watched that. Wonder if Arsenal were one of the PL clubs that sent someone to learn from them 🧐

It's been said that Attanasio may fancy taking the Brentford/Brighton approach, and Brentford's feeder team is Midtjylland, the Danish champions who have a very similar approach to youth development with lots of young Africans and South Americans passing through.

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Looking at their highlights there's a big emphasis on playing out from the back which I'm absolutely fine with but only if we sign some players actually comfortable doing it. Nagalo at Nordsjælland is highly rated so he might be an option but we'll need at least two, possible 3 new CB's if the younger lads aren't considered ready yet. Hanley and Duffy have their uses but looking at how Thorups team play they simply can't do what he'll want them to do in possession against teams at this level. 

 

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I am quite excited by this, and that's all I can be expected to be considering it's virtually impossible to know his true worth from his limited pedigree.

We do have the interview panel to trust, though.

A young forward-looking manager, lines up well with Knapper's thinking and possibly that of Attanasio.

It's that clean sweep many, including myself, have desired, and finally it shows a direction that was lacking with the appointments of Smith and Wagner.

He will have been well-researched, but of course it is still a risk, and a big one at that.

As was the appointment of Farke. Arteta at Arsenal and McKenna at ITFC.

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11 hours ago, Ken Hairy said:

We've got the Hoff

Super Hoff Thorup

I just don't think you understand 

He comes from Nordsjaelland

He's gonna take us up

We've got super Hoff Thorup

 

I'll get my coat 🙈

 

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1 hour ago, BroadstairsR said:

I am quite excited by this, and that's all I can be expected to be considering it's virtually impossible to know his true worth from his limited pedigree.

We do have the interview panel to trust, though.

A young forward-looking manager, lines up well with Knapper's thinking and possibly that of Attanasio.

It's that clean sweep many, including myself, have desired, and finally it shows a direction that was lacking with the appointments of Smith and Wagner.

He will have been well-researched, but of course it is still a risk, and a big one at that.

As was the appointment of Farke. Arteta at Arsenal and McKenna at ITFC.

Yea definitely excited. There’s a clear picture developing of what kind of team we are going to be.

Interested to see the style of play we adopt though.

This is definitely going to be a transition season, not expecting much in terms of final position to be honest. Feels very much like the first Webber/Farke season.

Suppose a lot depends on how this summer goes and how much financial support there is. 

Definitely feeling more positive about the long term though, the last few years we’ve been struggling to arrest a decline.

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2 hours ago, Christoph Stiepermann said:

Looking at their highlights there's a big emphasis on playing out from the back which I'm absolutely fine with but only if we sign some players actually comfortable doing it. Nagalo at Nordsjælland is highly rated so he might be an option but we'll need at least two, possible 3 new CB's if the younger lads aren't considered ready yet. Hanley and Duffy have their uses but looking at how Thorups team play they simply can't do what he'll want them to do in possession against teams at this level. 

 

For me that makes the argument of keeping one of the two. We know Hanley and Duffy are excellent and indeed extremely combative in the air, and would be a good shield for a ball-playing youngster in that position.

It's also increasingly making an argument for McLean being the left-footed ball-playing centre-half too, if one of the youngsters puts their hand up as a commanding presence in the air.

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3 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

For me that makes the argument of keeping one of the two. We know Hanley and Duffy are excellent and indeed extremely combative in the air, and would be a good shield for a ball-playing youngster in that position.

It's also increasingly making an argument for McLean being the left-footed ball-playing centre-half too, if one of the youngsters puts their hand up as a commanding presence in the air.

We’ve got a clutch of talented young CBs and are hopefully about to install a manager with a reputation for youth.

Be very surprised if at least one of the young CBs isn’t a regular next season.

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5 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

We’ve got a clutch of talented young CBs and are hopefully about to install a manager with a reputation for youth.

Be very surprised if at least one of the young CBs isn’t a regular next season.

Agree completely, I'm simply saying that knowing youngsters will always have a bit more inconsistency about them as they learn their trade at a higher level, there's room for a battle-hardened pro early on (and especially in such a key position as centre-half). Farke did that when he bought Hanley in, after all.

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5 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said:

Agree completely, I'm simply saying that knowing youngsters will always have a bit more inconsistency about them as they learn their trade at a higher level, there's room for a battle-hardened pro early on (and especially in such a key position as centre-half). Farke did that when he bought Hanley in, after all.

Yea I don’t disagree, although wouldn’t be surprised to see two younger CBs, maybe one brought in whos older with more first team experience.

I’m not going to be surprised to see Duffy shipped out either.

I’d be surprised to see McClean at CB, he did a great job but I don’t see that as a long term thinking option.

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Well I'm for one hopeful and quite excited about the forthcoming season....New manager, possible recruitment of young squad additions, Knapper earning his crust and our American shareholder being more involved....A change they say, is as good as a rest...

It could all be a breath of fresh air....or a nine month bout of decay and halitosis....

Whatever happens, it's gonna be good, bad or indifferent....Hey! That's Football.... 

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A little known Norwegian with no experience of English leagues. 

Mind you, a little-known German, and a little-known Scot didn't work out too bad.

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I’m sure everyone will be together, we’ll play football the right way, play the youth. And finish lower than the previous season. 

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11 minutes ago, Jezzard said:

I’m sure everyone will be together, we’ll play football the right way, play the youth. And finish lower than the previous season. 

I have no high expectations for his first season, just a hope for progression and purpose on and off the pitch. Round pegs in round holes  and a clear pattern of play in and out of play and all the other positive stuff.

Oh. And dump the tombola.

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23 minutes ago, Sooty57 said:

A little known Norwegian with no experience of English leagues. 

Mind you, a little-known German, and a little-known Scot didn't work out too bad.

Thought Hoff Thorup was Danish?

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36 minutes ago, Sooty57 said:

A little known Norwegian with no experience of English leagues. 

Mind you, a little-known German, and a little-known Scot didn't work out too bad.

He's Danish 

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1 minute ago, Robert N. LiM said:

Norwegians don't get more little known than that. 

That blue cross added to their flag was all in vain, right? 😉

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53 minutes ago, Jezzard said:

I’m sure everyone will be together, we’ll play football the right way, play the youth. And finish lower than the previous season. 

 

38 minutes ago, In my blood said:

I have no high expectations for his first season, just a hope for progression and purpose on and off the pitch. Round pegs in round holes  and a clear pattern of play in and out of play and all the other positive stuff.

Oh. And dump the tombola.

I think both of those statements depend on which players we retain.

Gunn, Stacey, McLean, Sara, Rowe, Nunez, Sargent, Sainz you would have thought will all expect to play if they are still here.

I fear the only way we have a complete rebuild is if a few of them leave. Or it becomes a case of making the best of what we have got, but the above names should easily get us top 6.

I'm not expecting a huge influx of young players tbh, especially with the blockages of Duffy, Hanley, Barnes and Hernandez.

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16 hours ago, Mason 47 said:

 

Edit-

Found this attacking analysis that is quite interesting (if you like that sort of thing). Bad news for those who don't like 'pissing around at the back'

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tristan-thomas-979766b3_johannes-hoff-thorup-has-taken-fc-nordsjaelland-activity-7098048365451505665-Dq8u

 

Saw this and thought of the **** who sits next to me. 

"Stop pissing about and whack it" 

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1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said:

Saw this and thought of the **** who sits next to me. 

"Stop pissing about and whack it" 

We’ll definitely need two new CBs to play like that, would be a nightmare with Duffy and Hanley.

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9 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

We’ll definitely need two new CBs to play like that, would be a nightmare with Duffy and Hanley.

We need 4 new defenders. None of the current 4 can pass a ball. Stacey is very good at running but watch out if you sit in the lower tier at either end because he will probably hit you in the head with a cross. 

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3 hours ago, Mello Yello said:

Well I'm for one hopeful and quite excited about the forthcoming season....New manager, possible recruitment of young squad additions, Knapper earning his crust and our American shareholder being more involved....A change they say, is as good as a rest...

It could all be a breath of fresh air....or a nine month bout of decay and halitosis....

Whatever happens, it's gonna be good, bad or indifferent....Hey! That's Football.... 

Unfortunately Dumb and Dumber will still be 40% in charge

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6 hours ago, TheGunnShow said:

For me that makes the argument of keeping one of the two. We know Hanley and Duffy are excellent and indeed extremely combative in the air, and would be a good shield for a ball-playing youngster in that position.

It's also increasingly making an argument for McLean being the left-footed ball-playing centre-half too, if one of the youngsters puts their hand up as a commanding presence in the air.

He'll be giving away a lot of penalties if he does that.

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If 'playing out from the back' is in his ethos.....I'm ok with Kenny being a centre half! We know he can do it, just need someone decent with him. I don't feel round peg square hole either. He showed when he played there he's more than capable at champ level....I'm happy

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11 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said:

Now reported that compensation has been agreed (around £400k), so seems few hurdles remain.  

Good news. We really have gone about this particularly promptly. Makes a change for NCFC!

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If he is insistent on playing from the back, we have to get defenders capable of doing it, it also means we have to do everything possible to offload Hanley and especially Duffy. Also,  I see no place for Barnes under the Hoff.

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1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said:

If he is insistent on playing from the back, we have to get defenders capable of doing it, it also means we have to do everything possible to offload Hanley and especially Duffy. Also,  I see no place for Barnes under the Hoff.

Need to keep one of those two, otherwise the early days of Farke beckon. 0-4 to Millwall....at which point Hanley came in.

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