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A weekend poll - which of the 3 do you prefer?

A Weekend Poll - which of the three known candidates do you prefer?  

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  1. 1. Which of the three known candidates do you prefer for the head coach position?

    • Will Still
      32
    • Johannes Hoff Thorup
      53
    • Pascal Jansen
      29

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  • Poll closed on 27/05/24 at 20:00

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Poll open until Monday 9pm - feel free to give us your reasons below. Hoping by Monday to have an officially endorsed Pink Un forum candidate. 

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Would have put don't know had there been an option. Perhaps Cuesta if he had been there.

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Of the the three, I would like either Still or Thorup, owing to their youth. I suspect that Still is the maverick gamble and Thorup more closely matches the BK blueprint. Assuming we appoint Thorup and Sunderland eventually land Still, there will be plenty of material for “I told you so “ threads from the usual suspects.

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Agree with BroadstairsR. I don't know much about this three. Since the mention of Cuesta months ago, I had hoped that he was the cunning plan. If not Cuesta. Then Craig Bellamy for me please

But Good Luck to whoever gets The Job. Hope young BK gets it right.

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40 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

Would have put don't know had there been an option. Perhaps Cuesta if he had been there.

Yes, I voted, but with absolutely zero confidence that my choice would be the best.

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Cuesta, for me, was never more than papertalk. It came too soon after Knapper's arrival. I think folks perhaps got too invested in it? He's no.2 to a top premier league club who placed 2nd to Mancashter City.

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Has to be Thorop for me. All have similarities but he is the standout candidate due to his development of players, attacking outlook and consistency of form.

2nd would be Jansen.

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Needs to be an option 'not sure' or 'none' etc in my opinion.

Personally I don't know much about them other than what's been mentioned this last week and a little bit of research but they all feel a bit underwhelming to me. I was hoping for Carlos Cuesta personally but it's looking less likely now, even though he's never managed before he is very highly regarded, especially among the Arsenal players, he has shot through the ranks too within the club and also speaks six languages which must be hugely beneficial in football management when dealing with players from many nations.

I'm excited about the project, and hopefully MA will start to have a big say and influence on things, so I'll get behind whoever is appointed but none of these three are really getting me going.

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Still is the most proven and with the highest ceiling.

For me Jansen and Thorup don't come that close. Thorup the biggest risk by a long way. 

Jansen did well at AZ but the Dutch league is famously hard to extrapolate much meaning from.  He'd be my 2nd choice.

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The three on the list are all unknown gambles really, which clearly have positives and negatives attached.

The big positive is we're not going after a famous name as a player. Plymouth fans must be dreading next season.

 

On a side note, the Cuesta scenario is a strange one. Knapper would have obviously known him during his time at Arsenal, so there must have been something not quite right there for him to pursue Cuesta. 

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I’m with the general consensus in that I’d heard of none of them until a week ago, and only then what I’ve read on here.

Is it too late to put in a vote for Mark Robins? 

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I don't have a view, given that I'd only heard of Still beforehand. In terms of who would be most likely to accept the job if offered I would say Thorup would almost certainly take it and Jansen would probably take it, while Still might think he could get a Premier League job, or something else in France.

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The problem with Still is that we might have caught him on a downslope in form at Reims and we're really not sure what he stands for in youth development. For that reason I find Jansen and Thorup more interesting as both look more proven in terms of giving youngsters their game time and that looks like a key plank in Knapper's approach throughout the club.

Was much more happening with Kim Hellberg, the Hammarby manager? He looked an intriguing prospect as well.

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If the new coach is going to be one of these three I have no strong opinion as I simply do not know enough about any of them to have a preference. So its a non vote from me. 

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5 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

I don't have a view, given that I'd only heard of Still beforehand. In terms of who would be most likely to accept the job if offered I would say Thorup would almost certainly take it and Jansen would probably take it, while Still might think he could get a Premier League job, or something else in France.

There's a good interview with him here (link should work even if you don't have a subscription)

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5282536/2024/02/21/still-interview-reims-france/

“I would work for a Championship team without a problem,” Still says. “What I’ve now understood, I’ve now realised, is how important people are. And how important finding the right place to be is going to be for my career. And people who understand the way I work, because I’m a bit different. I’m a bit odd sometimes.”

Asked to clarify how he is “different”, Still points to how much he is driven by instinct, and his obvious preference for candour over politics. “If something’s s**t, I want someone to tell me it’s s**t.”

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43 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

Still is the most proven and with the highest ceiling.

For me Jansen and Thorup don't come that close. Thorup the biggest risk by a long way. 

Jansen did well at AZ but the Dutch league is famously hard to extrapolate much meaning from.  He'd be my 2nd choice.

This, didn’t know about any of them but Still is the standout for me from looking at the three records and taking the leagues into account.

I’m actually surprised if we are a big enough club for his ambitions, I think it would be a bit of a coup.

Whoever we get though it’s exciting times.

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37 minutes ago, Bovril said:

There's a good interview with him here (link should work even if you don't have a subscription)

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5282536/2024/02/21/still-interview-reims-france/

“I would work for a Championship team without a problem,” Still says. “What I’ve now understood, I’ve now realised, is how important people are. And how important finding the right place to be is going to be for my career. And people who understand the way I work, because I’m a bit different. I’m a bit odd sometimes.”

Asked to clarify how he is “different”, Still points to how much he is driven by instinct, and his obvious preference for candour over politics. “If something’s s**t, I want someone to tell me it’s s**t.”

Probably part of why he is so liked, a lot of us probably work in organisations that are full of politics, it’s so pervasive. I don’t meet many who enjoy that other than the ones who are good at negotiating it and most of them in private acknowledge how toxic it is but “play the game”.

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46 minutes ago, Bovril said:

There's a good interview with him here (link should work even if you don't have a subscription)

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5282536/2024/02/21/still-interview-reims-france/

“I would work for a Championship team without a problem,” Still says. “What I’ve now understood, I’ve now realised, is how important people are. And how important finding the right place to be is going to be for my career. And people who understand the way I work, because I’m a bit different. I’m a bit odd sometimes.”

Asked to clarify how he is “different”, Still points to how much he is driven by instinct, and his obvious preference for candour over politics. “If something’s s**t, I want someone to tell me it’s s**t.”

That's interesting. Sort of explains why Reims form nosedived at the end of last season, with them selling their best player and losing 1/3 of their squad to international tournaments. 

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Dare I be impudent enough to suggest that Cuesta may be due a significant promotion at Arsenal as and when Arteta moves on-or that he may one day move into a 2-in-C position with Arteta at a new club when that does happen.

Don't know where Arteta could end up-feels as if Vincent Kompany is seeing Bayern Munich as a possible step to getting the Man City job one day but perhaps Arteta fancies that one as well....the result of all the charges hanging against them not withstanding....

Still for me...just!

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