**The Euro 2024 Thread**

[canarydan23 4,749]

4 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Trust it to be the English refs. As the laws go, that's the right decision (I think), but it took an age.

Has to be interfering with play. So the question is, if he wasn't there would the outcome have been different and the answer is emphatically no, keeper was not saving it regardless.

Classic, picked last in PE English officials who've never played the game so don't understand it.

It's embarrassing that we've sent Stuart Attwell. He's shockingly incompetent and was guaranteed at least one **** up.

[Fen Canary 1,453]

3 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Keeper never getting that. It's a goal imo.

Agreed. VAR sucking the life out of the game while still getting the big decisions wrong 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,580]

7 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Has to be obstructing the keepers view, which he clearly wasn't. Awful awful decision

Not true. The offside player has to prevent the opponent from playing the ball, and Maignan definitely would've dived had Dumfries not been there. Whether he would've got there or not is another matter, but the law was applied correctly.

The issue though is the time taken. It was a borderline decision, so no clear and obvious error. Just leave the onfield decision as it is and play on.

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

2 minutes ago, Fen Canary said:

Agreed. VAR sucking the life out of the game while still getting the big decisions wrong 

I'm a big hater of VAR, but what this tournament has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is it's only crap when the English are involved. Our officials are just utterly incompetent the whole bloody lot of them.

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

3 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Not true. The offside player has to prevent the opponent from playing the ball, and Maignan definitely would've dived had Dumfries not been there. Whether he would've got there or not is another matter, but the law was applied correctly.

The issue though is the time taken. It was a borderline decision, so no clear and obvious error. Just leave the onfield decision as it is and play on.

Nonsense, he was getting nowhere near that ball as it was already past him before he saw it, Dumfries made no difference whatsoever. They've totally got the law wrong, pure and simple 

Edited June 21 by Ken Hairy

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,580]

4 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Nonsense, he was getting nowhere near that ball as it was already past him before he saw it, Dumfries made no difference whatsoever. They've totally got the law wrong, pure and simple 

I agree that Maignan was unlikely to get there, but we'll never know for sure. He didn't dive because Dumfries was there, and you can clearly see that he pulled out of the dive for that reason. For that reason, the law has been applied correctly.

And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't like France.

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

I agree that Maignan was unlikely to get there, but we'll never know for sure. He didn't dive because Dumfries was there, and you can clearly see that he pulled out of the dive for that reason. For that reason, the law has been applied correctly.

And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't like France.

We'll agree to disagree, but the law says he's has to effect the outcome,  he didn't as like I said the ball was already gone before he could even think of diving.

[Helsinki canary 296]

Terrible decision by the British officials- the player was not obstructing the view and not preventing the keeper from moving - the goal should of stood. 

[Midlands Yellow 4,682]

VAR is marvellous isn’t it. Man Utd win the cup and now tonight’s debacles fix another result. That said, if you get the decision you tend not to give a fcuk. 

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

Poland out, there will be trouble in the pubs of Thetford tonight.....

[KiwiScot 1,684]

And Poland are out. 23 remain.

[ricardo 8,016]

Keeper tried to con the officials and got away with it. There was never time to attempt a diving save and the keeper knew it.

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

Look at the angle behind the goal, Dumfries is actually miles away from the keeper and slightly behind. It gets worse the more I see it.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

Stuart Attwell has changed the whole direction of this tournament with that decision

France's route would be a very different one as group runners up as opposed to winners

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,580]

10 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

We'll agree to disagree, but the law says he's has to effect the outcome,  he didn't as like I said the ball was already gone before he could even think of diving.

OK, having seen a few more replays, Maignan was further away from the ball than I thought. So yeah, the onfield decision probably should've been goal, but I do think the VAR was right to leave it as it was because it wasn't clear and obvious.

[Helsinki canary 296]

Taylor and atwell should be kicked out

[canarydan23 4,749]

Yeah, the replays make it even worse than it look originally, and it already looked bad. A decision only people who don't understand football can agree with.

[Pyro Pete 2,343]

The only 0-0 draw in the competition, and it's all down to awful English officials.

With the Dutch 1-0 up with 15 minutes to go, we could have seen a real game with the French forced to go for it.

But no, English VAR officials suck the life out of the game yet again.

[Barbe bleu 1,032]

7 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

Stuart Attwell has changed the whole direction of this tournament with that decision

France's route would be a very different one as group runners up as opposed to winners

If that decision makes it easier for France then it is 100% the wrong decision and an absolute disgrace.

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,580]

[Barham Blitz 862]

2 hours ago, Ken Hairy said:

Look at the angle behind the goal, Dumfries is actually miles away from the keeper and slightly behind. It gets worse the more I see it.

Not only that but the way he was positioned meant that he couldn't have dived for it anyway.  I can absolutely see why the linesman flagged it from his position but the offside should have been overturned by VAR.

[Google Bot 3,921]

3 hours ago, canarydan23 said:

Has to be interfering with play. So the question is, if he wasn't there would the outcome have been different and the answer is emphatically no, keeper was not saving it regardless.

Place him further forwards into an onside position and that ball hasn't got such a straight path through to the goal, so him being offside does greatly affect the space available in the box, by standing offside he's effectively cleared space for the shot.

The tricky part is whether he's interfered with the keeper to prevent him attempting a save, common sense says that the keeper isn't getting to it regardless... But he doesn't attempt at it and immediately reacts to the player by his side who is clearly offside.

I think both factors considered I can understand how it's been given, because let's be honest he's stood there after making the run to remain a nuisance.  But like the Todd Cantwell one for us, i'd be furious if it was given against us. 

Edited June 21 by Google Bot

[dj11 404]

21 hours ago, Google Bot said:

It wasn't clear on TV who was whistling and boo'ing as we were plodding the ball around, was it the Danish?  Or was there discontent from the England fans too?  I was watching on BBC, and commentators never made mention to it.

It was mainly the England fans. The Danish fans were magnificent in their support of their team, it was a bit like the Icelandic fans a few years ago. As an England fan, it was so frustrating to watch. 

[dj11 404]

21 hours ago, The Raptor said:

Was it your Norwich flag drapped behind the corner flag? 

No, I got my tickets through the ballot and was second tier near the half way line. 

[Don’t be Krul 452]

Now reading Shaw not training still and involvement in the tournament in doubt. Yet another Southgate masterstroke. The one positive to take when England do get knocked out is that Southgate will be off. Good riddance

[Canary73 325]

On 17/06/2024 at 22:57, TheGunnShow said:

Would say Norway and Iceland are the weakest, musically. Denmark's definitely the best of the bunch for me.

Norway's take some beating: 

 

[Canary73 325]

The Danish anthem is equally good: 

 

[FenwayFrank 2,699]

Look out, Eni is on 😀

[Canary73 325]

I find it odd they cant get a rep from either country that is playing. 

[Daz Sparks 1,558]

Comedy own goal from Turkey. 

Good, not a fan. 

Edited June 22 by Daz Sparks