Well b back 3,665 Posted May 15, 2024 Yet another thread being taken off track and destroyed by you know who. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 10 hours ago, essex canary said: Nobody should be high earning on account of charging the customer unfairly when their duties should reasonably include charging the customer fairly. 10 hours ago, Greavsy said: And again. Why are you only criticising the wealthy / well paid females. That's my point that you continually dodge. It's not a hard question.. Still not answered my question Essex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 631 Posted May 16, 2024 1 minute ago, Greavsy said: Still not answered my question Essex. Take a look at the BK8 thread and make up your mind about whether these wealthy / well paid females were at the forefront of decision making concerning female exploitation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 6 minutes ago, essex canary said: Take a look at the BK8 thread and make up your mind about whether these wealthy / well paid females were at the forefront of decision making concerning female exploitation. I'm asking why you are so against females in high paid positions/ wealthy females. Why you continually shout out Zoe for her salary. Why you singled out Delia when MWJ must be guilty of the same accusations from you? Don't deflect, again, just a simple reply if you are capable of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,965 Posted May 16, 2024 Just now, Greavsy said: I'm asking why you are so against females in high paid positions/ wealthy females. Why you continually shout out Zoe for her salary. Why you singled out Delia when MWJ must be guilty of the same accusations from you? Don't deflect, again, just a simple reply if you are capable of that. I think it's pretty clear he's jealous and angry that a female is considerably more successful than him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BurwellCanary 261 Posted May 16, 2024 Just now, Greavsy said: I'm asking why you are so against females in high paid positions/ wealthy females. Why you continually shout out Zoe for her salary. Why you singled out Delia when MWJ must be guilty of the same accusations from you? Don't deflect, again, just a simple reply if you are capable of that. Don't get your hopes up 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 631 Posted May 16, 2024 Just now, Greavsy said: I'm asking why you are so against females in high paid positions/ wealthy females. Why you continually shout out Zoe for her salary. Why you singled out Delia when MWJ must be guilty of the same accusations from you? Don't deflect, again, just a simple reply if you are capable of that. Your sense of entitlement in demanding responses is breathtaking and reasonably constitutes trolling. The idea that there is any gender bias on my part given my actions in seeking the same terms for a female owning the same number of shares as myself and my comments on the BK8 issue is for the birds. I don't need to justify any comments I have made to anyone regarding people in the public eye anymore than anyone on here needs to justify their comments on the Head Coach or past Head Coaches etc. which I am sure on many occasions have been far more controversial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, essex canary said: Your sense of entitlement in demanding responses is breathtaking and reasonably constitutes trolling. The idea that there is any gender bias on my part given my actions in seeking the same terms for a female owning the same number of shares as myself and my comments on the BK8 issue is for the birds. I don't need to justify any comments I have made to anyone regarding people in the public eye anymore than anyone on here needs to justify their comments on the Head Coach or past Head Coaches etc. which I am sure on many occasions have been far more controversial. Wow, bit rich from you talking about entitlement. That's the reply I was expecting. You can't (wont) answer the question. Says it all. Another deflection too. Seek help, your certainly need it. I've never blocked anyone on here, as always interested in everyone's views that they are entitled to share, and others are entitled to challenge, but you're coming very close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 14 minutes ago, hogesar said: I think it's pretty clear he's jealous and angry that a female is considerably more successful than him. Absolutely. I'm still concerned that we keep agreeing Hoggy! 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 631 Posted May 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, Greavsy said: Wow, bit rich from you talking about entitlement. That's the reply I was expecting. You can't (wont) answer the question. Says it all. Another deflection too. Seek help, your certainly need it. I've never blocked anyone on here, as always interested in everyone's views that they are entitled to share, and others are entitled to challenge, but you're coming very close. It is an opinions board. It is not about trying to incite someone or anyone based on a preconceived view of them. Females in the public eye are as accountable and responsible as males. The gender equality thing works both ways. Simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,965 Posted May 16, 2024 4 minutes ago, Greavsy said: Absolutely. I'm still concerned that we keep agreeing Hoggy! 👍 I've even found myself agreeing with some of @TIL 1010's posts so I've just taken the sensible assumption i've accidentally stepped into a portal and am living in some alternate universe 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, essex canary said: It is an opinions board. It is not about trying to incite someone or anyone based on a preconceived view of them. Females in the public eye are as accountable and responsible as males. The gender equality thing works both ways. Simple. It's a football forum, and you have continually moaned, whinged and complained about our club, your treatment, how other clubs do it better, females in high positions to name a few. The Ombudsman found against you. Read the room! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 1 minute ago, hogesar said: I've even found myself agreeing with some of @TIL 1010's posts so I've just taken the sensible assumption i've accidentally stepped into a portal and am living in some alternate universe Phew, that's a relief. Its you not me type thing. 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 631 Posted May 16, 2024 12 minutes ago, Greavsy said: It's a football forum, and you have continually moaned, whinged and complained about our club, your treatment, how other clubs do it better, females in high positions to name a few. The Ombudsman found against you. Read the room! Try the room below especially the comments from Angus George who has been one of the Clubs most famous fans for many years Two games from Wembley but still… modern football is rubbish (myfootballwriter.com) Please don't delude yourself that anyone other than the Canaries Trust solved BK8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,428 Posted May 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, essex canary said: Please don't delude yourself that anyone other than the Canaries Trust solved BK8. …and did us out of a few million quid, meanwhile BK8 sponsored Aston Villa have just qualified for the Champions League… But, hot dog sausages, eh? Whatever next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 631 Posted May 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, Duncan Edwards said: …and did us out of a few million quid, meanwhile BK8 sponsored Aston Villa have just qualified for the Champions League… But, hot dog sausages, eh? Whatever next. Quite a few fans had that opinion too. Did our club with its 6,800 shareholders, 20 000 Season Ticket Holders, 13,000 members and majority owners that claim to be guardians for the fans engage in any form of democratic resolution? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 4 minutes ago, essex canary said: Quite a few fans had that opinion too. Did our club with its 6,800 shareholders, 20 000 Season Ticket Holders, 13,000 members and majority owners that claim to be guardians for the fans engage in any form of democratic resolution? They didn't need to, the trust with its 501 members* represents us all. * Not including life members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 631 Posted May 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, Greavsy said: They didn't need to, the trust with its 501 members* represents us all. * Not including life members. You don't believe that anymore than I do. The life members comment is quite funny given that some of them are likely deceased but then again not near as many as with the Club’s 6,800 shareholders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 So does the club need to consult fans on everything or just what turns out to be contentious? Obviously the contentious issues are only apparent with hindsight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,181 Posted May 16, 2024 44 minutes ago, hogesar said: I've even found myself agreeing with some of @TIL 1010's posts so I've just taken the sensible assumption i've accidentally stepped into a portal and am living in some alternate universe Steady you on Hog you will be agreeing with me next ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Carrow 394 Posted May 16, 2024 17 hours ago, Pyro Pete said: And how many seats have been empty at matches at Carrow Road this season? Are all those nonattending season-ticket holders selfish as well? Given we had the second highest percentage of seats sold in the league after Leicester, I'd say they definitely are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 631 Posted May 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, Greavsy said: So does the club need to consult fans on everything or just what turns out to be contentious? Obviously the contentious issues are only apparent with hindsight. They could have called an EGM to deal with the BK8 issue when it was obvious it was controversial. In a wider sense a protocol maybe needed. Why is fan consultation now being directed through the OSP and effectively buy passing shareholder mechanisms. A shareholder debate and vote on the away membership scheme which relates to Article 8 and is fundamental to supporters engagement would in my view have been the proper way forward. From where we now a review of this scheme alongside those of our 3 play-off rivals which are all different in nature in order to get the best balance would be the right way forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,665 Posted May 16, 2024 It is an opinions board. It is not about trying to incite someone or anyone based on a preconceived view of them. So why don’t you start your own thread with this subject that you go on and on about, see if anyone replies. If you get replies I guess 90% will be disagreeing with you. Maybe once you have done that, you wont destroy threads where other people have put up things they and others want to discuss, without having them totally ruined. Opinions and discussions are for everybody, not one person who’s aim is to turn people against the club. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,661 Posted May 16, 2024 17 minutes ago, essex canary said: They could have called an EGM to deal with the BK8 issue when it was obvious it was controversial. In a wider sense a protocol maybe needed. Why is fan consultation now being directed through the OSP and effectively buy passing shareholder mechanisms. A shareholder debate and vote on the away membership scheme which relates to Article 8 and is fundamental to supporters engagement would in my view have been the proper way forward. From where we now a review of this scheme alongside those of our 3 play-off rivals which are all different in nature in order to get the best balance would be the right way forward. Blah blah blah,........ It's not what I want so it must be wrong...... Entitled shareholder? Much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,841 Posted May 16, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Greavsy said: Absolutely. I'm still concerned that we keep agreeing Hoggy! 👍 Thats the thing, Essex is so divisive that people who normally disagree are united in their opposition to his pathetic childish agenda driven posting. Personally i find him repellant in every aspect he has displayed on here, if he has any saving graces , they are either accidental or extremely well hidden. .His comment regarding the Famine were on a par with Holocaust denial.....and the more militant members of the Peoples republic of Cork have marked his card.(i'm one of the gentler folk btw) Pariah Judas Gollum Would probably shrivel into his boots if given 5 minutes alone with Zoe. A sad pathetic excuse of a man. Any team would be better off without him. PS his 'jokes ' are the least funny thing about him. Edited May 16, 2024 by wcorkcanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,665 Posted May 16, 2024 I tell you what Essex I will give you £25 so you can buy an away membership next season, then you won’t have to moan about how you don’t miss out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,841 Posted May 16, 2024 12 minutes ago, Well b back said: I tell you what Essex I will give you £25 so you can buy an away membership next season, then you won’t have to moan about how you don’t miss out. He'd rather whine and whinge like a biatch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 1,056 Posted May 16, 2024 On 15/05/2024 at 17:15, shefcanary said: I thought we had, and if so we get the Howard Bar and effectively a whole segment of the ground to ourselves away from their supporters. If we don't, this is bad for two reasons. 1. we are only taking 1,600 supporters (which is poor from the club given the stature of the game). 2. Their supporters can drink in the Howard bar below the away end, thus have to queue for security in the same queues as Norwich fans before the match and have easy access to our fans as they leave after. The security queue before the match tends to spill onto the main road and is not easy to control. Because of those points, respectfully, you are wrong JJR - we have the lower tier. Doesn't look like I am wrong? Looks like we don't have the lower tier? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 631 Posted May 16, 2024 Just now, JonnyJonnyRowe said: Doesn't look like I am wrong? Looks like we don't have the lower tier? What we need to know is whether the Club didn't take the option or whether they turned it down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,712 Posted May 17, 2024 14 hours ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: Doesn't look like I am wrong? Looks like we don't have the lower tier? Very poor turn out tbf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites