*** Official Summer 2024 Transfer Rumour Thread ***

[Mason 47 2,001]

30 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

And lose him for peanuts? His contract isn’t long enough to play hardball, like Idah, for example. 

The model requires Rowe to go this summer. Then it’s Kamara, or another, to step up and be sold in 2 years time. The key is, we have the right replacements already identified. Something Webber failed miserably at. £12 million plus another £2-3 mill in add ons is good money for Rowe. 

 

If Sara hadn't already gone, I might be inclined to agree. It felt almost set that Rowe would move on (I thought he would be first in fact). 

We've made a big sale this summer and Rowe is now arguably our most valuable asset, both on the pitch and in the market. As with Celtic, I'd expect us to give them our price and not come to the table for anything less.

[Wimbledoncanary 39]

Conor hinted that there was still interest in Nunez. Much rather sell Idah (5/6?) and Nunez (4-5?) and keep Rowe (10-12?)

[Newtopia 582]

1 minute ago, Wimbledoncanary said:

Conor hinted that there was still interest in Nunez. Much rather sell Idah (5/6?) and Nunez (4-5?) and keep Rowe (10-12?)

Personally I would think about the players potential value increase.  If I was DOF and thinking about finances I would sell Rowe as I think we need to create opportunities for Kamara to develop.  I would least want to lose Idah as if he scores 20 goals he is worth +15M more than he is now.  If we do not sell Sarge, probably better to let idah leave.

[The Dog 40]

Rowe has told Knapper that he wants to leave. He is concerned with lack of ambition and sale of other key players. There is no way he will sign a new contract with us and despite the year option we as a club can’t afford to not sell him. Webber somewhat guilty that he wasn’t tied down to a longer contract at the start of last season when he broke into the team. 
Sadly it’s only a matter of to whom and for how much now. 
 

Edited August 8, 2024 by The Dog

[Capt. Pants 5,146]

I can't see Rowe still being here at the end of the transfer window, regardless if and what the financial hole is.

If his agent strongly hints that JR won't be signing a new contract then our hands are tied, he has to leave this window really at a price we think is acceptable. We can't afford another Cantwell or Aarons situation.  

Hopefully he goes to a Premier League club but Leeds, a rival, might be the next best thing if he can get close to  an EPL salary. As mentioned a player hardly ever turns down extra money.

Looking at the state of the Championship I can't see Leeds finishing below 2nd.

[ron obvious 1,731]

10 minutes ago, Newtopia said:

Personally I would think about the players potential value increase.  If I was DOF and thinking about finances I would sell Rowe as I think we need to create opportunities for Kamara to develop.  I would least want to lose Idah as if he scores 20 goals he is worth +15M more than he is now.  If we do not sell Sarge, probably better to let idah leave.

Admittedly I've only seen him a couple of times, but by crikey he looked slow. And I didn't actually see him do very much either.

Can't say I'm particularly impressed by this either         

 

Edited August 8, 2024 by ron obvious

[BobLoz3 621]

9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Rowe has told Knapper that he wants to leave. He is concerned with lack of ambition and sale of other key players. There is no way he will sign a new contract with us and despite the year option we as a club can’t afford to not sell him. Webber somewhat guilty that he wasn’t tied down to a longer contract at the start of last season when he broke into the team. 
Sadly it’s only a matter of to whom and for how much now. 
 

And where are you getting this from, Dawg? 

[Jim Smith 2,641]

1 hour ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

And lose him for peanuts? His contract isn’t long enough to play hardball, like Idah, for example. 

The model requires Rowe to go this summer. Then it’s Kamara, or another, to step up and be sold in 2 years time. The key is, we have the right replacements already identified. Something Webber failed miserably at. £12 million plus another £2-3 mill in add ons is good money for Rowe. 

 

How about we at some point try and get promoted again so we don’t have to sell anyone?

[Michael Starr 583]

Impressed how we are going about our business. We lost Sara but there's not much we could have done about that tbh. The signings so far seem a good fit. Too early to say but I'm liking how decisive we are also.

[Wimbledoncanary 39]

19 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Rowe has told Knapper that he wants to leave. He is concerned with lack of ambition and sale of other key players. There is no way he will sign a new contract with us and despite the year option we as a club can’t afford to not sell him. Webber somewhat guilty that he wasn’t tied down to a longer contract at the start of last season when he broke into the team. 
Sadly it’s only a matter of to whom and for how much now. 
 

Source ?

[Channon’s Windmill 428]

1 minute ago, Jim Smith said:

How about we at some point try and get promoted again so we don’t have to sell anyone?

Hmmm …. Emi.

We will always sell our best at some point, whatever league we are in. I remember being absolutely devastated when there was talk of selling Chris Sutton, I wrote to Robert Chase and he did reply and explained what an asset he was and how City had developed him, what he didn’t do is say we will keep him. Obviously we sold him soon after, with a lot of other saleable assets following, breaking up one of the most competitive top league squads we have ever had.

Todays sales are predictable in our current climate, I fully expect Rowe not to be here at the end of August.

[Jim Smith 2,641]

Just now, Channon’s Windmill said:

Hmmm …. Emi.

We will always sell our best at some point, whatever league we are in. I remember being absolutely devastated when there was talk of selling Chris Sutton, I wrote to Robert Chase and he did reply and explained what an asset he was and how City had developed him, what he didn’t do is say we will keep him. Obviously we sold him soon after, with a lot of other saleable assets following, breaking up one of the most competitive top league squads we have ever had.

Todays sales are predictable in our current climate, I fully expect Rowe not to be here at the end of August.

The sale of Emi was an utter disgrace that ultimately started our downfall and that of Webber. If we go up again that sort of sale must not be allowed to happen under any circumstances. 

[Don’t be Krul 454]

1 minute ago, Jim Smith said:

The sale of Emi was an utter disgrace that ultimately started our downfall and that of Webber. If we go up again that sort of sale must not be allowed to happen under any circumstances. 

It won't. We haven't got anyone anywhere near the quality of Emi

[Norfolk Mustard 106]

4 hours ago, jaberry2 said:

What Fabrizio Romano said about possible Rowe transfer to Leeds below:

“Yeah, he's [Rowe] a possibility. It's true that his name is one of the ones they are considering internally. At the moment, I'm told that still nothing is close to being done, but it's a concrete possibility. For sure, they will replace Summerville.

“They are assessing all the options, but I think Leeds will be quite fast on this one, also because they made good money with Summerville and also with Archie Gray, so they have some money to invest, and they will surely do that.”

 Not too much of a note in this unless they come up significantly on any verbal offer which was made, which is to believed to be in the region of £7m, where clearly we would be asking for much more. I hope he stays this window.

"...it's a concrete possibility!" - journalism at its finest!

[Paul101 196]

3 hours ago, Cantiaci Canary said:

Because, it shows that a player's career can end or be seriously derailed at any moment. This is why the vast majority of players across the entire pyramid want to leave when higher wages are offered ... they never know when that's the final time that they'll be offered a major pay rise or opportunity to play at a higher level - however old they are.

Think Zema Abbey - think Darren Eadie.

Short career 

[jaberry2 780]

Sounds like Southampton closing in on Matt O'Riley. Once and if agreed, you would expect Celtic to increase offer for Idah. Few more twists and turns this window. Wonder whether Rowe and Idah off freeing up cash for 2-4 additions.

[Graham Paddons Beard 2,876]

Rowe was offered new contracts last season the he didn’t sign. 

[The Dog 40]

8 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said:

Rowe was offered new contracts last season the he didn’t sign. 

That is correct but by all accounts it should been put on the table earlier in the season when he was still finding his way in the team. By the time we offered I believe his reputation had gone through the roof and he had payed England U21’s etc and his eyes had been opened to other potential options. 

[Newtopia 582]

53 minutes ago, ron obvious said:

Admittedly I've only seen him a couple of times, but by crikey he looked slow. And I didn't actually see him do very much either.

Can't say I'm particularly impressed by this either         

 

That is quite an impressive reel.  Tricky to know how he would cope at an higher level, where he would be under more pressure, or whether he is just so talented he is creating that space for himself.

[Soldier on 298]

19 minutes ago, jaberry2 said:

Sounds like Southampton closing in on Matt O'Riley. Once and if agreed, you would expect Celtic to increase offer for Idah. Few more twists and turns this window. Wonder whether Rowe and Idah off freeing up cash for 2-4 additions.

Time for new heroes ??

[jaberry2 780]

1 minute ago, Soldier on said:

Time for new heroes ??

All part of the circle of life (football, well Norwich). Nothing new, just new players. We do look a bit thin on real quality and depth currently. I suspect they know that as well.

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,700]

1 hour ago, Jim Smith said:

How about we at some point try and get promoted again so we don’t have to sell anyone?

Be nice wouldn't it. Another 23 clubs trying to that in what's regarded as one of, if no the most, competitive leagues in the world. 

[TheGunnShow 7,462]

That said, if the Championship this year looks like it could be tough, just look at the 2. Bundesliga.

12 out of 18 teams have won the top flight in the past. One's even won the forerunner to the Champions League and another had the old Cup Winner's Cup.

[Carrow89 264]

1 hour ago, Jim Smith said:

How about we at some point try and get promoted again so we don’t have to sell anyone?

How about you stop making up stuff. We do not have to sell anyone. Players leave because they are offered higher wages etc elsewhere. This happens whether you are in the PL or not.

[Feedthewolf 5,916]

1 hour ago, Carrow89 said:

How about you stop making up stuff. We do not have to sell anyone. Players leave because they are offered higher wages etc elsewhere. This happens whether you are in the PL or not.

To be fair to Jim, it has been widely reported that we did need to make sales this summer to balance the books.

It's not fair to judge Thorup and Knapper too harshly on their transfer business, as the financial gulf was created by Webber's ironic 'pissing up the wall' of the Buendia money and our subsequent relegation.

[Carrow89 264]

18 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

To be fair to Jim, it has been widely reported that we did need to make sales this summer to balance the books.

It's not fair to judge Thorup and Knapper too harshly on their transfer business, as the financial gulf was created by Webber's ironic 'pissing up the wall' of the Buendia money and our subsequent relegation.

Not by the club it hasn't. In fact, previous speculation by local journalists has now been turned in us 'investing' the Sara transfer fee in new players.

[Monty13 2,795]

Just now, Carrow89 said:

Not by the club it hasn't. In fact, previous speculation by local journalists has now been turned in us 'investing' the Sara transfer fee in new players.

Where do you think they’ve been getting it from? They’ve been very clear that’s the message they are hearing not them speculating.

[Carrow89 264]

Then why not quote the club, the source ?  The supposed black hole relates to expenditure being higher than income. The club stated, as last Novembers accounts, that long term debt was being serviced. So if the expenditure is this £20m shortfall as claimed, why on earth is the club increasing it by signing players and adding to the wage bill ? 

[Feedthewolf 5,916]

4 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

Where do you think they’ve been getting it from? They’ve been very clear that’s the message they are hearing not them speculating.

Indeed. The accounts are there for all to see, and people have done the calculations on what's required for us to avoid breaching our FFP responsibilities. They're hardly going to come out with a statement saying that they need to raise X amount of money, as that would just invite loads of lowball offers for our players.

[Monty13 2,795]

19 minutes ago, Carrow89 said:

Then why not quote the club, the source ?  The supposed black hole relates to expenditure being higher than income. The club stated, as last Novembers accounts, that long term debt was being serviced. So if the expenditure is this £20m shortfall as claimed, why on earth is the club increasing it by signing players and adding to the wage bill ? 

Where are the Pinkun claiming 20 million?

Their line, as far as I’m aware, is we need to sell to buy, we needed to sell a big fee player and they are not expecting all of it to be reinvested.

I’ve not heard specific figures from them.