Positive_Canary 48 Posted May 5 Twenty plus years of mis-management and apathy by their fans, was always bound to make an eventual promotion seem like landing on Mars or splitting the atom, but it has come at a cost. We've had three promotions in a decade, including going up twice as Champions. It does of course fit sports-media narratives that their achievement should be so widely lauded as the 'greatest ever' and we should accept that somewhat amusing take. An entire generation didn't know what any kind of success has smelled like until now. They have a casual fanbase which represents almost half of their ground capacity. The Premier League will bite them unless they go for broke...again. I'm guessing they have a year of McKenna, whose stock will be extraordinarily high if they can somehow stay up, or of course if they are resoundingly thumped straight back down after more than 8000 days outside the top flight. He will become a major target for a West Ham or Everton seeking to regain their own glory days in a brutal division. So, we go into a play-off semi-final, knowing that if we get it right, we can play our part in putting them back where they are best suited and watching their largely plastic fanbase literally melt away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,830 Posted May 5 They are second best in the double promotions too, we at least won league one and finished second in the chumps. They could only finish second in both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted May 5 Just like our success vs their failings spurred them on to rebuild and refocus, them getting promoted might just do the same here. It will hopefully remove the apathy from the fanbase, which might make things a bit uncomfortable for the majority shareholders and BOD should we fail in the play-offs. At some point soon Knapper is going to have to put his cards on the table. I'm not sure what strategy he has for squad development. We have a great opportunity for promotion. It probably can't get much better what with a basket case Leeds and flakey Southampton. Just wish we'd not tinkered with Idah and SVH in January. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,798 Posted May 5 (edited) Best bit is knowing they spent five years only getting around 16 to 19,000 fans at home now all of a sudden you've got all these binners being all "Look we are selling out every home match look at how much everyone loves the club here in this small town!" "Where we you when you were ****" comes to mind.. Will be their first time in the top flight for a large number of their younger fanbase and all they are going to get is to watch their team get battered every match, having all the media talking about them not having any ambition and all the plastic prem fans talking about how they should be banned from promotion and then at the end of the season losing their manager and their best players. Edited May 5 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 6,279 Posted May 5 36 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: They are second best in the double promotions too, we at least won league one and finished second in the chumps. They could only finish second in both. Nature's runners-up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,273 Posted May 5 16 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Best bit is knowing they spent five years only getting around 16 to 19,000 fans at home now all of a sudden you've got all these binners being all "Look we are selling out every home match look at how much everyone loves the club here in this small town!" "Where we you when you were ****" comes to mind.. Will be their first time in the top flight for a large number of their younger fanbase and all they are going to get is to watch their team get battered every match, having all the media talking about them not having any ambition and all the plastic prem fans talking about how they should be banned from promotion and then at the end of the season losing their manager and their best players. It's not the bragging about their current achievements that annoy me as they are there for all to see, it's more when they get carried away with such nonsense as "back where we belong" and when some even seriously talk of heading back to Europe because they are such a big club. It's all so similar to this constant "glorious history" crap, when even that doesn't amount to that much. No City fan, as I see it, ever talks in such a high-faluting manner, being among the top twenty-six being our own reasonable assessment of our place in the hierarchy, even when we were destroying the Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,830 Posted May 5 23 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Best bit is knowing they spent five years only getting around 16 to 19,000 fans at home now all of a sudden you've got all these binners being all "Look we are selling out every home match look at how much everyone loves the club here in this small town!" "Where we you when you were ****" comes to mind.. Will be their first time in the top flight for a large number of their younger fanbase and all they are going to get is to watch their team get battered every match, having all the media talking about them not having any ambition and all the plastic prem fans talking about how they should be banned from promotion and then at the end of the season losing their manager and their best players. Unfortunately this part won't happen, because they're the " new kid on the block " - someone fresh and new. every other team who go up will have had recent PL seasons and by most of the media's opinions, should be " giving it a go " and spending to stay up etc. The fact the filth have been away from the top flight for 20+ years will make them the media darlings who can't do any wrong and what a " amazing story " it is that this " once great club " is back in the big time etc. And the usual crap of the media understanding that the best thing for these clubs is to go up, get some cash, go back down and build again stronger, but only when it suits the media to understand, if it is to be us that win the PO's then we'll be lambasted for the same strategy, purely because externally people see that we've had recent PL seasons so should have the money there already etc. People like O'Hara have no real understanding of how football financials work, they see promoted to PL and instantly assume your now cash rich with hundreds of millions to burn. If they had the mental capacity to educate themselves they'd dig a little deeper and realize the clubs who have managed to stay up have mega rich backers in the first place like Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth etc. But Much like luton haven't had any real criticism this year, the filth will not get any next, if they finish bottom they'll just get the " they'll come back stronger " line thrown at them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,765 Posted May 5 We win the playoffs and it’ll taint the promotion for them big time. We CAN do it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,830 Posted May 5 (edited) Scum fans currently in floods of tears that they aren't being sold as ex champions 🤣🤣🤣 Highest finish 5th 🤣 something else we've beaten them on then 😉 " 3rd in the premier League, you'll never sing that " 🤣🤣🤣 Finally realizing that no one cares about footballing achievements from 50/60 years ago Edited May 5 by GodlyOtsemobor 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy 240 Posted May 5 I hesitate to say this, but don't you think that this OP and this thread is just a little bit too bitter and twisted and embarrassingly salty. I know it hurts like hell but come on! Better, Shirley, to acknowledge that 96 points is an extraordinary achievement for a newly promoted team, tip your hat, and hope for success through the play-offs. No? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
komakino 282 Posted May 5 The facts are that Ipswich have done a much better job than we have, whether we like that or not. It shows again that the League One bounce can take you to the Top Tier, as we have proved previously. What interests me is not what they may or may not do next season, but what we do the next 2 or 3 games. A month ago, I was convinced that Leeds would go automatically up and was far from keen facing them in the play offs. However, they've hit a bad run and some of their arguably over critical fans are on Farke's back despite them getting 90 points. So that does present a possibly of exploiting that. If we can get a two goal lead at CR, then I'll be confident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positive_Canary 48 Posted May 5 4 hours ago, Cowboy said: I hesitate to say this, but don't you think that this OP and this thread is just a little bit too bitter and twisted and embarrassingly salty. I know it hurts like hell but come on! Better, Shirley, to acknowledge that 96 points is an extraordinary achievement for a newly promoted team, tip your hat, and hope for success through the play-offs. No? Not sure you’ve read what I’ve written. It’s not a criticism of McKenna. The motivation for the post, is the embarrassment of finishing behind Ipswich, which the vast majority of fans are finding unacceptable in the context of the modern game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yella 5 Posted May 5 I hate that we're so affected by them. Some of us need to grow up and admit to a great achievement. Reading this thread is dreadfully embarrassing and makes me ashamed to be a yella. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positive_Canary 48 Posted May 6 12 hours ago, Yella said: I hate that we're so affected by them. Some of us need to grow up and admit to a great achievement. Reading this thread is dreadfully embarrassing and makes me ashamed to be a yella. It is a great achievement, but it’s not an ‘incredible achievement’. Successive promotions following four years of abject failure in League One watched by 16000 people is a disgrace for a club of their size. They outspent their rivals several fold to regain their championship status after years of coming nowhere near the playoffs. They stumbled their way to eventual promotion as both Leeds and Southampton spunked chances presented by their own shortcomings. Great? Possibly. Incredible? If we had been out of the PL for 20+ years there would have been riots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,924 Posted May 6 This is not a very positive thread 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,830 Posted May 6 13 hours ago, Yella said: I hate that we're so affected by them. Some of us need to grow up and admit to a great achievement. Reading this thread is dreadfully embarrassing and makes me ashamed to be a yella. Binner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
